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  SoylentNews.org Crisis 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-03-10 10:04 -0400
    Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-10 15:11 +0000
      Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-10 18:30 +0000
        Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis Otaku <otaku@shpxurnq.com> - 2014-03-10 12:40 -1000
      Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2014-03-10 21:06 +0100
        Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-10 22:56 +0000
    Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-03-11 11:40 -0600
      Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-11 17:24 +0000
        Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-11 18:19 +0000
      Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> - 2014-03-11 19:26 +0100
        Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 19:44 +0100
          Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> - 2014-03-11 20:21 +0100
            Re: SoylentNews.org Crisis Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-11 19:49 +0000
    Soylent next steps RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-12 15:08 +0000

#1423 — SoylentNews.org Crisis

It appears the fledgling site is being 'held hostage'

"We supposedly have until Friday until John drops everything in the 
trash unless someone pays him $2000 USD."

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#1426

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:04:20 -0400
2phar <none@example.com> wrote:

> It appears the fledgling site is being 'held hostage'
> 
> "We supposedly have until Friday until John drops everything in the 
> trash unless someone pays him $2000 USD."


I won't be getting involved in this one, that's for sure.  Too bad for
everyone.  The way this whole recent transfer of power has played out
has been really awful - so amateur, so petty, so juvenile.  So futile.
And in the name of "transparency" so much airing of grievances on line
and on the site.  I hate it.

I might spend some time putting a good word in for frustrated soybeans
in hopes of getting Pipedot a little more attention.  While Soy drags
itself through the muck, Pipedot just keeps getting better and better,
with none of this community nonsense.

Meanwhile, I am henceforth taking Usenet hostage too.  I'm going to
shut it down unless every user pays me $20.  Oh wait ...

See ya later, Soylent ... it was fun while it lasted.

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#1430

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:04:20 -0400
> 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
> 
>> It appears the fledgling site is being 'held hostage'
>> 
>> "We supposedly have until Friday until John drops everything in the 
>> trash unless someone pays him $2000 USD."
> 
> 
> I won't be getting involved in this one, that's for sure.  Too bad for
> everyone.  The way this whole recent transfer of power has played out
> has been really awful - so amateur, so petty, so juvenile.  So futile.
> And in the name of "transparency" so much airing of grievances on line
> and on the site.  I hate it.
> 
> I might spend some time putting a good word in for frustrated soybeans
> in hopes of getting Pipedot a little more attention.  While Soy drags
> itself through the muck, Pipedot just keeps getting better and better,
> with none of this community nonsense.
> 
> Meanwhile, I am henceforth taking Usenet hostage too.  I'm going to
> shut it down unless every user pays me $20.  Oh wait ...
> 
> See ya later, Soylent ... it was fun while it lasted.

This situation illustrates perfectly why web forums are a poor substitute
for Usenet.

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#1443

On 03/10/2014 08:30 AM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:04:20 -0400
>> 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It appears the fledgling site is being 'held hostage'
>>>
>>> "We supposedly have until Friday until John drops everything in the 
>>> trash unless someone pays him $2000 USD."
>>
>>
>> I won't be getting involved in this one, that's for sure.  Too bad for
>> everyone.  The way this whole recent transfer of power has played out
>> has been really awful - so amateur, so petty, so juvenile.  So futile.
>> And in the name of "transparency" so much airing of grievances on line
>> and on the site.  I hate it.
>>
>> I might spend some time putting a good word in for frustrated soybeans
>> in hopes of getting Pipedot a little more attention.  While Soy drags
>> itself through the muck, Pipedot just keeps getting better and better,
>> with none of this community nonsense.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I am henceforth taking Usenet hostage too.  I'm going to
>> shut it down unless every user pays me $20.  Oh wait ...
>>
>> See ya later, Soylent ... it was fun while it lasted.
> 
> This situation illustrates perfectly why web forums are a poor substitute
> for Usenet.
> 
Exactly. I'm looking at s'qute (http://squte.com/) as a kind of
best-of-both solution - it looks like a reasonably well-done karma-based
portal to comp.misc. Bob damn Dice, anyway, for fscking /. up so badly
with the beta.

-- 
Otaku (at) shpxurnq (dot) com

"These folks need to take a good look at their client
list, i.e. shpxurnq.com. This guy is one of the worst
Usenet & Internet abusers out there. ..."
Richard Scoville, aka ISP.WATCH
http://tinyurl.com/b5r4a

tinLC Unit Number 2767

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#1431

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:11:58 +0000
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:

> The way this whole recent transfer of power has played out
> has been really awful - so amateur, so petty, so juvenile.

That pretty much sums up the entire (short) history of soylentnews, as I saw
it from lurking at their IRC channel. I'm saddened that such a large part of
community was snatched by such bad project.

-- 
Andy

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#1444

On 3/10/14 8:06 PM, Andy K. wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:11:58 +0000
>RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>
>> The way this whole recent transfer of power has played out
>> has been really awful - so amateur, so petty, so juvenile.
>
>That pretty much sums up the entire (short) history of soylentnews, as I saw
>it from lurking at their IRC channel. I'm saddened that such a large part of
>community was snatched by such bad project.
>
>-- 
>Andy


A couple of great quotes from the soy thread:

1 li694-22,  we finally have a name!
2 I propose we call the new site altdelslashdot.  No ctl because no one is
 in control.
3 li694-22.members.linode.com is people!
4 Fuck sale. *proposes boycott*
5 is Barrabas even a real person?  I tell you, we should have freed the
 Nazarene instead.

Also the guy who had planned to pay the 2k and troll everyone by redirecting
 the dns record to Slashdot beta.  Awesome.

Bill, I was hoping you'd make the sale.  Too much excitement for one day! 
 

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#1467

Spylentnews.org is currently down. 
In the IRC logs someone admits its a DDoS attack: 
http://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2014-03-11.html 

-- 
regards
~tdk
View this thread at http://squte.com/node/5368#comment-17026

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#1470

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:40:35 -0600
"tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:

> Spylentnews.org is currently down. 
> In the IRC logs someone admits its a DDoS attack: 
> http://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2014-03-11.html 
> 
> -- 
> regards
> ~tdk
> View this thread at http://squte.com/node/5368#comment-17026


That "ssssss" sound you hear is the sound of community spirit going up
in smoke.  It will be a miracle if they recover from this, even though
I hope they do.

Start looking for those folks back on Slashdot next week.  Amazing.

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#1472

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:40:35 -0600
> "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:
> 
>> Spylentnews.org is currently down. 
>> In the IRC logs someone admits its a DDoS attack: 
>> http://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2014-03-11.html 
>> 
>> -- 
>> regards
>> ~tdk
>> View this thread at http://squte.com/node/5368#comment-17026
> 
> 
> That "ssssss" sound you hear is the sound of community spirit going up
> in smoke.  It will be a miracle if they recover from this, even though
> I hope they do.
> 
> Start looking for those folks back on Slashdot next week.  Amazing.

I'm not a Slashdot regular, nor have I been following the "spin off" sites
but, boy, there seems to be a *hell* of a lot of drama around. Kinda puts
me off visiting any of these new sites in the future. I'm enjoying
comp.misc though!

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1473

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:40:35 -0600, "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:

>Spylentnews.org is currently down. 
>In the IRC logs someone admits its a DDoS attack: 
>http://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2014-03-11.html 

Dice must be laughing their asses off...

Too bad, I really like Soylent and still think it has a lot of
potential. I hope this isn't the act of disgruntled drama queens, that
would just be too pathetic for words....

-- 
regards,
Jayjay

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#1474

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:26:55 +0100
JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:40:35 -0600, "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:
> 
> >Spylentnews.org is currently down. 
> >In the IRC logs someone admits its a DDoS attack: 
> >http://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2014-03-11.html 
> 
> Dice must be laughing their asses off...

Frankly, I do not think Dice has even noticed someone boycotting or leaving
slashdot. There simply weren't enough people.

-- 
Andy

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#1476

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:44:11 +0100, "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:26:55 +0100
>JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:40:35 -0600, "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Spylentnews.org is currently down. 
>> >In the IRC logs someone admits its a DDoS attack: 
>> >http://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2014-03-11.html 
>> 
>> Dice must be laughing their asses off...
>
>Frankly, I do not think Dice has even noticed someone boycotting or leaving
>slashdot. There simply weren't enough people.

Probably true, more's the pity...

-- 
regards,
Jayjay

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#1479

JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:44:11 +0100, "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:26:55 +0100
>> JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:40:35 -0600, "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Spylentnews.org is currently down. 
>>>> In the IRC logs someone admits its a DDoS attack: 
>>>> http://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2014-03-11.html 
>>> 
>>> Dice must be laughing their asses off...
>> 
>> Frankly, I do not think Dice has even noticed someone boycotting or leaving
>> slashdot. There simply weren't enough people.
> 
> Probably true, more's the pity...
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Jayjay

This is what makes me think that Dice will go ahead with a total
Gawker-style redesign for Slashdot.  Sure, people complained, but they kept
posting even if it was just to complain.  It's all about getting ad
impressions and views of Slashvertisements.

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#1519 — Soylent next steps

Soylent admits now there was no DDoS attack, they simply hosed the DNS
records when they tried shutting down the Linode instances.  Site is up
and running and they're posting interesting articles, which is good.

They're not out of the woods though: a lot of introspective posts about
what their community/business/financial model should be, and the
comments show a fair degree of disagreement.

I conclude you can't start with the community and end with the site.
You have to build the site and let the community come to it.  There's
no obvious way for Soy to move forward now, the guy who ponied up $2K
seems benevolent but he hasn't said a word to date, and they have to
probably find a new name.

Good luck, soybeans.

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