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  Zuckerberg lampooned Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-26 21:33 +0000
    Re: Zuckerberg lampooned RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-27 09:26 +0000
      Re: Zuckerberg lampooned philo  <philo@privacy.net> - 2014-02-27 06:47 -0600
        Re: Zuckerberg lampooned Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-27 14:04 +0000
        Re: Zuckerberg lampooned Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-27 14:08 +0000
      Re: Zuckerberg lampooned Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-27 15:03 +0000
        Re: Zuckerberg lampooned invis <invis@invis.net> - 2014-02-27 15:33 +0000
      Re: Zuckerberg lampooned Bjoern Hoehrmann <bjoern@hoehrmann.de> - 2014-02-27 22:00 +0100
        Re: Zuckerberg lampooned RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-27 22:24 +0000

#1014 — Zuckerberg lampooned

"The German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung has been accused of
anti-semitism after it published a cartoon featuring Facebook CEO Mark
Zuckerberg as an octopus monster with a gigantic nose."

http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-anti-semitic-caricature-2014-2

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#1027

Hils wrote:
> "The German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung has been accused of
> anti-semitism after it published a cartoon featuring Facebook CEO Mark
> Zuckerberg as an octopus monster with a gigantic nose."
>
> http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-anti-semitic-caricature-2014-2

Interesting article, thanks for posting.  I was not aware of the 
Judaism-as-octopus connotation, though it hardly seems like it deserves 
the exclusive right to that metaphor.  These days several competing 
ideologies attempting to exert their influence more broadly (capitalism? 
liberalism?  whatever) could easily use the same imagery.

The artist says he was going for more of a "Davy Jones" from "Pirates of 
the Caribbean" look, and actually that was the first thing I thought 
when I saw the cartoon, so he succeeded, in my opinion.  I'm writing 
this off as "over-sensitive Germans" who are indeed very sensitive about 
any perceived anti-Semitism, and for obvious reasons.

(Deftly avoiding Godwins Law, I now veer back onto a topic more apt for 
comp.misc) :)

But hell, someone SHOULD lampoon Zuckerberg and Facebook.  Facebook 
sucks.  It's pervasive, it's damaging, it's now proven to have 
detrimental effects on young peoples' emotional and physical health, and 
in its blatant attempt to surpass every useful web protocol, it is the 
borg itself.  I suggest we nuke it from high orbit and piss in the crater.

I reluctantly tried out Facebook for about 4 months, but deleted my 
account when they wanted my cellphone number (yes, I know it was not 
actually deleted).  Friends who tell me "you'll have no other way to 
communicate with me if you don't use it" I say "see ya later."

I rejoice at articles showing young people no longer like/use it, 
preferring those crazy picture sharing sites.  And the day the 
mainstream media stops wanking itself silly over every little thing Zuck 
says or does I'll be happy.  I'm sick to death of hearing about Twitter, 
too.  "OMG, Twitter caused the Tunisian revolution" etc.  It's so vapid.

When my revolution comes, it will be hard-wrapped at 72 spaces, thank ya 
very much.

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#1032

On 02/27/2014 03:26 AM, RS Wood wrote:


<snip>
> I reluctantly tried out Facebook for about 4 months, but deleted my
> account when they wanted my cellphone number (yes, I know it was not
> actually deleted).  Friends who tell me "you'll have no other way to
> communicate with me if you don't use it" I say "see ya later."
>
> I rejoice at articles showing young people no longer like/use it,
> preferring those crazy picture sharing sites.  And the day the
> mainstream media stops wanking itself silly over every little thing Zuck
> says or does I'll be happy.  I'm sick to death of hearing about Twitter,
> too.  "OMG, Twitter caused the Tunisian revolution" etc.  It's so vapid.
>
> When my revolution comes, it will be hard-wrapped at 72 spaces, thank ya
> very much.


First off, with the younger generation, Facebook is becoming 
passe...they are moving on to other social media.

I'm 64 years old and like it a lot as I can keep up with all my friends 
and relatives who are now scattered throughout the world. Some of the 
people I had lost contact with for many years and now we can keep up 
with each other.

My feeling is ...if the person is on Facebook, they realize they are 
going to be "public figures" so to speak. If I am trying to find a long 
lost friend and they are not on Facebook, I leave it at that assuming 
they want privacy.

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#1033

On 2014-02-27 12:47, philo  wrote:
> My feeling is ...if the person is on Facebook, they realize they are
> going to be "public figures" so to speak. If I am trying to find a long
> lost friend and they are not on Facebook, I leave it at that assuming
> they want privacy.

One of the most odious aspects of the way Facebook works is that they
keep moving the goalposts on their users. Users of commercial online
services should have a legal right to have all of their data deleted,
though I daresay the "security services" would object to this. The
European Union was proposing just such a law, it may have been one of
the pro-citizen ideas which the British government sabotaged (under
orders from GCHQ?).

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#1034

On 2014-02-27, philo  <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> My feeling is ...if the person is on Facebook, they realize they are 
> going to be "public figures" so to speak. 

Do they realise that FB is going to vacuum up whatever private data
it can get its greasy little fingers on? Then collate it with whatever other
private data it's stolen from other users to draw all kinds of conclusions
that they would possibly prefer not be made?

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#1037

In message <len0b7$nf3$1@solani.org> 
  RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> But hell, someone SHOULD lampoon Zuckerberg and Facebook.  Facebook 
> sucks.  It's pervasive, it's damaging, it's now proven to have 
> detrimental effects on young peoples' emotional and physical health, and 
> in its blatant attempt to surpass every useful web protocol, it is the 
> borg itself.  I suggest we nuke it from high orbit and piss in the crater.

Hear, hear!

> I reluctantly tried out Facebook for about 4 months, but deleted my 
> account when they wanted my cellphone number (yes, I know it was not 
> actually deleted).  Friends who tell me "you'll have no other way to 
> communicate with me if you don't use it" I say "see ya later."

I was on it for a time because most of the extended family is on it, but
I couldn't stand it anymore.

I'd never posted any photos or any personal info other than name and
city, but I'd get tagged in other people photos. Well, they can't tag me
if I'm not there.

> I rejoice at articles showing young people no longer like/use it, 

The use it to 'talk' to their parents, grandparents, uncles, and other
Old People.

> preferring those crazy picture sharing sites.  And the day the 
> mainstream media stops wanking itself silly over every little thing Zuck 
> says or does I'll be happy.  I'm sick to death of hearing about Twitter, 
> too.  "OMG, Twitter caused the Tunisian revolution" etc.  It's so vapid.

The difference is that twitter is actually useful.

> When my revolution comes, it will be hard-wrapped at 72 spaces, thank ya 
> very much.


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You know, Calculus is sort of like measles. Once you've had it, you
probably won't get it again, and you're glad of it. -- W. Carr

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#1040

On 27/02/2014 15:03, Lewis wrote:
> I'd never posted any photos or any personal info other than name and
> city, but I'd get tagged in other people photos. Well, they can't tag me
> if I'm not there.

Not true:

> Who can tag me?
> 
> Anyone can tag you in photos and other posts. Tags from people
> you're not friends with may appear in your Timeline review, where you
> can decide if you want to allow them on your Timeline. Remember,
> posts you choose not to allow on your Timeline may appear in News
> Feed and elsewhere on Facebook.
> 
> If you don't like something you're tagged in, you can remove the tag
> or ask the person who tagged you to remove the post.

http://en-gb.facebook.com/help/226296694047060

Not having an account doesn't stop your "friends" from adding a tag with
your name to their photos.

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#1056

* RS Wood wrote in comp.misc:
>Hils wrote:
>> "The German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung has been accused of
>> anti-semitism after it published a cartoon featuring Facebook CEO Mark
>> Zuckerberg as an octopus monster with a gigantic nose."
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-anti-semitic-caricature-2014-2
>
>Interesting article, thanks for posting.  I was not aware of the 
>Judaism-as-octopus connotation, though it hardly seems like it deserves 
>the exclusive right to that metaphor.  These days several competing 
>ideologies attempting to exert their influence more broadly (capitalism? 
>liberalism?  whatever) could easily use the same imagery.

Mark Zuckerberg as data kraken is as obvious as it gets

  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenkrake

And not just in Germany,

  http://rt.com/usa/nro-satellite-octopus-emblem-854/
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#1058

On 2014-02-27 21:00:10 +0000, Bjoern Hoehrmann said:

> * RS Wood wrote in comp.misc:
>> Hils wrote:
>>> "The German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung has been accused of
>>> anti-semitism after it published a cartoon featuring Facebook CEO Mark
>>> Zuckerberg as an octopus monster with a gigantic nose."
>>> 
>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-anti-semitic-caricature-2014-2
>> 
>> Interesting article, thanks for posting.  I was not aware of the
>> Judaism-as-octopus connotation, though it hardly seems like it deserves
>> the exclusive right to that metaphor.  These days several competing
>> ideologies attempting to exert their influence more broadly (capitalism?
>> liberalism?  whatever) could easily use the same imagery.
> 
> Mark Zuckerberg as data kraken is as obvious as it gets
> 
>   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenkrake
> 
> And not just in Germany,
> 
>   http://rt.com/usa/nro-satellite-octopus-emblem-854/


I speak just enough German to get the gist of the datenkraken article.  
Awesome – way to go, Deutschland!  I'm trying to imagine the Americans 
undertaking a similar protest/parade and it's hard to imagine.

As for the RT article, yes - that NSA emblem is appropriate.  But awful 
and ironic was the sidebar advertisement with a picture of Syria's 
Assad and a poll: should America invade Syria?

I don't want this group to take on that topic, since it's not germane 
to comp.misc.  Just thought it was ironic since the same minds who 
probably think having NSA read all your email is the same hankering for 
a showdown in a mideast country.  Come over to dictator.mideast if you 
want to discuss.

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