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  Google fiber hopes to expand to 34 new cities RS Wood  <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-20 09:08 +0000
    Re: Google fiber hopes to expand to 34 new cities 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-20 09:35 -0500
      Re: Google fiber hopes to expand to 34 new cities wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 09:59 +0000
        Re: Google fiber hopes to expand to 34 new cities RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-20 18:47 +0000

#601 — Google fiber hopes to expand to 34 new cities

From the "but first we tear up your road" department:
Title: Google Fiber, Ultrahigh-Speed Internet, May Expand to 34 New Cities
Author: By CLAIRE CAIN MILLER
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:52:52 -0500
Link: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/google-fiber-ultrahigh-speed-internet-may-expand-to-34-new-cities/

Google is asking 34 cities to pave the way for Fiber without guaranteeing it
will install it, a change in approach as the Internet giant grapples with
real-world challenges like tearing up roads.

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#612

On 2/20/2014 4:08 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>  From the "but first we tear up your road" department:
> Title: Google Fiber, Ultrahigh-Speed Internet, May Expand to 34 New Cities
> Author: By CLAIRE CAIN MILLER
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:52:52 -0500
> Link: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/google-fiber-ultrahigh-speed-internet-may-expand-to-34-new-cities/
>
> Google is asking 34 cities to pave the way for Fiber without guaranteeing it
> will install it, a change in approach as the Internet giant grapples with
> real-world challenges like tearing up roads.
>

Gigabit ethernet connections (or anything close to that speed) for the 
end user requires that speed *end to end* on the route. Folks on Google 
fiber will probably have gigabit speed routes to Google servers / google 
search/apps/docs etc, but probably hardly anything else. I would think 
most other content providers would need to pretty much have to pay 
Google to install their servers at Google's datacenters to be able to 
provide similar speed, or get some seriously expensive peering circuits.

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#613

> On 2/20/2014 4:08 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>>  From the "but first we tear up your road" department:
>> Title: Google Fiber, Ultrahigh-Speed Internet, May Expand to 34 New Cities
>> Author: By CLAIRE CAIN MILLER
>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:52:52 -0500
>> Link: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/google-fiber-ultrahigh-speed-internet-may-expand-to-34-new-cities/
>>
>> Google is asking 34 cities to pave the way for Fiber without guaranteeing it
>> will install it, a change in approach as the Internet giant grapples with
>> real-world challenges like tearing up roads.
>>
>
> Gigabit ethernet connections (or anything close to that speed) for the
> end user requires that speed *end to end* on the route. Folks on Google
> fiber will probably have gigabit speed routes to Google servers / google
> search/apps/docs etc, but probably hardly anything else. I would think
> most other content providers would need to pretty much have to pay
> Google to install their servers at Google's datacenters to be able to
> provide similar speed, or get some seriously expensive peering circuits.
>

Wait a minute, isn't the Internet just a bunch of tubes that carry data
(e.g., cat videos, urgent messages about what people just had for breakfast,
streaming porn, conspiracy theories, and NSA-required metadata)? If
that's still true, then shouldn't "bigger mains" equate to "faster lolz"?

P.S. haha. :p
--
Now frequenting comp.misc daily in a prolonged fit of netstalgia.

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#631

On 2014-02-20, wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/20/2014 4:08 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>>>  From the "but first we tear up your road" department:
>>> Title: Google Fiber, Ultrahigh-Speed Internet, May Expand to 34 New Cities
>>> Author: By CLAIRE CAIN MILLER
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:52:52 -0500
>>> Link: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/google-fiber-ultrahigh-speed-internet-may-expand-to-34-new-cities/
>>>
>>> Google is asking 34 cities to pave the way for Fiber without guaranteeing it
>>> will install it, a change in approach as the Internet giant grapples with
>>> real-world challenges like tearing up roads.
>>>
>>
>> Gigabit ethernet connections (or anything close to that speed) for the
>> end user requires that speed *end to end* on the route. Folks on Google
>> fiber will probably have gigabit speed routes to Google servers / google
>> search/apps/docs etc, but probably hardly anything else. I would think
>> most other content providers would need to pretty much have to pay
>> Google to install their servers at Google's datacenters to be able to
>> provide similar speed, or get some seriously expensive peering circuits.
>>
>
> Wait a minute, isn't the Internet just a bunch of tubes that carry data
> (e.g., cat videos, urgent messages about what people just had for breakfast,
> streaming porn, conspiracy theories, and NSA-required metadata)? If
> that's still true, then shouldn't "bigger mains" equate to "faster lolz"?
>
> P.S. haha. :p
> --
> Now frequenting comp.misc daily in a prolonged fit of netstalgia.
>

I think the Google team is moving rapidly into sectors where they have
little experience or knowledge.  I worked for a long time in civil
engineering, dealing with public utilities and digging permits and all
that stuff.  It's a lot of bureaucracy, not technical, and unless
they're hiring the right people/subcontracting the right firms, they've
got a tough road ahead of them.

On the other hand, I wish them luck and hope they choose a city I live
in!  

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