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European Commission proposal for a less USA-centric Internet

Started byRS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com>
First post2014-02-13 11:26 +0000
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  European Commission proposal for a less USA-centric Internet RS Wood  <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-13 11:26 +0000
    Re: European Commission proposal for a less USA-centric Internet True Satan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-13 12:40 +0000
    Re: European Commission proposal for a less USA-centric Internet "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-16 13:20 +0100

#365 — European Commission proposal for a less USA-centric Internet

FromRS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com>
Date2014-02-13 11:26 +0000
SubjectEuropean Commission proposal for a less USA-centric Internet
Message-ID<ldia5l$uc3$1@solani.org>
From the all our packets pass through Brussels department:
Title: Europe pushes for a less US-dominated internet
Author: Jon Fingas
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:15:00 -0500
Link: http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/12/europe-pushes-for-a-less-us-dominated-internet/?ncid=rss_truncated

[image 1] The European Union is more than a little jittery about a US-centric
internet after learning the extent of the country's mass surveillance.
Accordingly, the European Commission has proposed a whole host of measures
that would shift control to the...

Links:
[1]: http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/243bf5fdcde9c4abf05214e3b2a52910/neelie-kroes-council-european-union-630_thumbnail.jpg (image)

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FromTrue Satan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk>
Date2014-02-13 12:40 +0000
Message-ID<ldieft$bpm$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#365
I don't see this as offering the least benefit to the average person...to 
companies/Corporations who compete with US rivals it will offer huge 
benefits and seeing as these are the real paymasters of our political 
classes on both sides of the Atlantic I feel that to be the real driving 
force at play.

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From"q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-02-16 13:20 +0100
Message-ID<i1n6ta-tek.ln1@7398004cd8ad880124144d3c685567d7.anonymous>
In reply to#365
On 2014-02-13, RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:15:00 -0500
> Link: http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/12/europe-pushes-for-a-less-us-dominated-internet/?ncid=rss_truncated
>
> [image 1] The European Union is more than a little jittery about a US-centric
> internet after learning the extent of the country's mass surveillance.
> Accordingly, the European Commission has proposed a whole host of measures
> that would shift control to the...

Oho, they proposed measures. In a strongly worded fashion, I trust?
Seriously, I think we had some decent privacy laws in Europe.
Europe ruined it with their agreement to forward travelers data,
banking data and allowing European companies to transfere personal
data to so called safe harbours.

It appears, the secret agencies in Europe were working together with
the NSA most of the time. Example in case for Germany

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-reveals-cooperation-between-nsa-and-german-bnd-a-909954.html

In Germany the cooperation was intensified under chancellor Schroeder
(left wing party) and coninued under chancellor Merkel (conservatives).
 
Generally, the European secret agencies were all working together
with the NSA

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/01/gchq-europe-spy-agencies-mass-surveillance-snowden

Basically, if Europe once to strengthen privacy and avoid e-spionage, 
they need to put their own agencies on a much shorter leash first.
I can only imagine how difficult this would be. Considering Snowdens
revelations, good luck with trying to curb agencies that are - 
technically and morally - capable of placing falsified evidence
on oponents computers and thus utterly destroy them.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/snowden_cyber_offensive1_nbc_document.pdf
(p.11)

From a technical point of view, it shouldn't be too difficult to get
control over the European part of the internet. Is would be possible
to set up a couple of own root-dns servers, let them query domains 
from US counterparts and overwrite/extend whats not acceptable. From
there, serious negotiations could start. 

Safe habour laws could be stopped, forcing US companies who want to 
do business in Europe to have these datacenters in Europe as well.

But probably all relevant 
politicians pushing for such changes would either have a sudden 
change of heart or found out to be criminal, proven by finding 
some child-porn or evidence for eating little kittens on they PCs.
I don't think, anything will chang anytime soon.



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