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Things that Google+ got right

Started byRS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com>
First post2019-03-28 21:26 -0400
Last post2019-03-31 00:22 +0000
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  Things that Google+ got right RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-28 21:26 -0400
    Re: Things that Google+ got right The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 08:12 -0700
      Re: Things that Google+ got right Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-03-29 16:56 -0300
        Re: Things that Google+ got right Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-29 22:25 +0000
    Re: Things that Google+ got right Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-03-29 21:21 +0000
    Re: Things that Google+ got right Dostoevsky <do-not-email-me@dnem.dnem> - 2019-03-29 20:51 -0500
    Re: Things that Google+ got right Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-03-31 00:22 +0000

#17672 — Things that Google+ got right

FromRS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com>
Date2019-03-28 21:26 -0400
SubjectThings that Google+ got right
Message-ID<kq80nf-st4.ln1@rasp.therandymon.com>
https://erik.itland.no/what-did-google-get-right

I used to use it, and generally liked it; never really understood all
the antipathy.  To everyone who doubled down on Facebook and mocked
Google's attempt to get in on social networking, how's it look now that
we know what Facebook has become?

//--clip
Google plus had circles

... so unlike with twitter I didn't have to spam everyone to reach
those two followers who'd actually care about that topic.

Example: I could add Norwegians I knew to my “Norwegians” circle so I
could share links to Norwegian pages only to people I knew could read
Norwegian.

Google plus had collections

... so unlike Facebook and Twitter, people who were interested in some
of the same things as me wouldn't have to follow everything I ever
posted.

Example: I had collections for:
Java (links and comments)

local stuff (my pictures from my town etc)

retro stuff (c64 etc)


Google plus had groups

... kind of like Facebook groups but without having to deal with
Facebook. (I now trust Google less than before as well, but Facebook
has worked harder to earn their position as untrustworthy.)

They worked kind of like forums with topics, threads and members but:
with good ux

without signing up and in to 15 different places, all with their own
ads for “their own app”.
...
//--clip

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#17682

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-29 08:12 -0700
Message-ID<q7lclc$sr3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17672
On 03/28/2019 06:26 PM, RS Wood wrote:
> https://erik.itland.no/what-did-google-get-right
>
> I used to use it, and generally liked it; never really understood all
> the antipathy.  To everyone who doubled down on Facebook and mocked
> Google's attempt to get in on social networking, how's it look now that
> we know what Facebook has become?

G+ and Facebook suck badly.  Usenet was so much better.  Illiteracy 
beats literacy every single time.

> //--clip
> Google plus had circles
>
> ... so unlike with twitter I didn't have to spam everyone to reach
> those two followers who'd actually care about that topic.
>
> Example: I could add Norwegians I knew to my “Norwegians” circle so I
> could share links to Norwegian pages only to people I knew could read
> Norwegian.

Facebook lets you make 'Friends lists'.  Not certain about how insulated 
they are, but I've made quite a few of them.

> Google plus had groups
>
> ... kind of like Facebook groups but without having to deal with
> Facebook. (I now trust Google less than before as well, but Facebook
> has worked harder to earn their position as untrustworthy.)

They stole those from dejavu's usenet compilation and made it uglier and 
harder to use.  I had real hopes, but NOOOOO.


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "When your enemies are making mistakes, don't interrupt them."
                                      -- from the film 'Moneyball'

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#17684

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2019-03-29 16:56 -0300
Message-ID<87r2apfo9v.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#17682
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:

> G+ and Facebook suck badly.  Usenet was so much better.  Illiteracy 
> beats literacy every single time.

Terfunz's Law:  Illiteracy drives out literacy.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#17690

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2019-03-29 22:25 +0000
Message-ID<gg7kafFhumtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17684
On 2019-03-29, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> G+ and Facebook suck badly.  Usenet was so much better.  Illiteracy 
>> beats literacy every single time.
>
> Terfunz's Law:  Illiteracy drives out literacy.

*Applause*


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#17688

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2019-03-29 21:21 +0000
Message-ID<q7m288$re7$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17672
RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:
> https://erik.itland.no/what-did-google-get-right
> 
> I used to use it, and generally liked it; never really understood all
> the antipathy.  To everyone who doubled down on Facebook and mocked
> Google's attempt to get in on social networking, how's it look now that
> we know what Facebook has become?

I feel the biggest cause was the 'network effect' (this was also 
pre-knowledge of just how evil facepalm really was and is).

Everybody was on facepalm, and too few went to G+ to create enough of a 
gravitational attraction to get the majority of the drooling masses to 
migrate over.

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#17696

FromDostoevsky <do-not-email-me@dnem.dnem>
Date2019-03-29 20:51 -0500
Message-ID<q7mi29$l28$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17672
I never actually used Google Plus more than the smallest bit, but I now 
regret it.

Still find it remarkable that Google is so quick to drop services: rss 
reader, social media, Hangouts, what next?

On 2019-03-29 01:26:10 +0000, RS Wood said:

> https://erik.itland.no/what-did-google-get-right
> 
> I used to use it, and generally liked it; never really understood all
> the antipathy.  To everyone who doubled down on Facebook and mocked
> Google's attempt to get in on social networking, how's it look now that
> we know what Facebook has become?
> 
> //--clip
> Google plus had circles
> 
> ... so unlike with twitter I didn't have to spam everyone to reach
> those two followers who'd actually care about that topic.
> 
> Example: I could add Norwegians I knew to my “Norwegians” circle so I
> could share links to Norwegian pages only to people I knew could read
> Norwegian.
> 
> Google plus had collections
> 
> ... so unlike Facebook and Twitter, people who were interested in some
> of the same things as me wouldn't have to follow everything I ever
> posted.
> 
> Example: I had collections for:
> Java (links and comments)
> 
> local stuff (my pictures from my town etc)
> 
> retro stuff (c64 etc)
> 
> 
> Google plus had groups
> 
> ... kind of like Facebook groups but without having to deal with
> Facebook. (I now trust Google less than before as well, but Facebook
> has worked harder to earn their position as untrustworthy.)
> 
> They worked kind of like forums with topics, threads and members but:
> with good ux
> 
> without signing up and in to 15 different places, all with their own
> ads for “their own app”.
> ...
> //--clip

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#17711

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2019-03-31 00:22 +0000
Message-ID<20190330201943@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#17672
On 2019-03-29, RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:
> I used to use it, and generally liked it; never really understood all
> the antipathy.  To everyone who doubled down on Facebook and mocked
> Google's attempt to get in on social networking, how's it look now that
> we know what Facebook has become?

I mock all social networking (except perhaps Usenet :) and wouldn't touch
Facebook with a 10-foot Czechoslovakian.

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