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[Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way

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  [Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:11 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:17 +0000
      Re: [Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-01-25 21:29 +0000
        Re: [Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-01-25 22:31 +0000
        Re: [Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-01-25 22:31 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way Batchman <batchman@dosville.foo> - 2019-01-25 21:25 +0000

#17329 — [Link Posting] Your TV Is Now a Computer, but Not in a Good Way

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<URL:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/smart-tvs-ar
e-dumb/581059/>

The text below is a quotation from the URL above:
>
>  The problem began mysteriously. I switched on my Samsung Smart TV to
>  watch the Warriors game, and after about 20 seconds, the CBS News app
>  switched itself on for a few seconds in a small rectangle in the upper
>  left corner. Then my TV crashed, which is a thing TVs can do now, and
>  the screen went dark.
>
>  This was particularly confusing because I'd never watched the CBS News
>  app. I'd never installed the app, nor did I even know it was on my TV.
>
>  I tried the obvious things. I turned off the TV and turned it back on.
>  Same problem. Unplugged, replugged. Happened again. Reset the cable box
>  just to try it. Again. Made the sign of the cross. Checked for software
>  updates for the television. Threw my phone. Screamed into the abyss.
>  But. It. Just. Kept. Happening.
>
>  Finally, I turned to the consumer micro-solidarity available in the
>  support forums. Based on the outraged responses of other Samsung TV
>  owners, the issue began sometime in September. No one knows how to fix
>  it. And because of a deal that Samsung struck with app makers, you can't
>  delete the app from your own TV.
>
>  ...

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#17330

On 2019-01-25, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
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><URL:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/smart-tvs-ar
> e-dumb/581059/>
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> The text below is a quotation from the URL above:
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>>  The problem began mysteriously. I switched on my Samsung Smart TV 

And there's his problem, right there. He bought a Samdung.

-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 25th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3185
                      ~ Stercus accidit ~

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#17334

In comp.misc, Huge  <usenet@huge.org.uk> wrote:
> On 2019-01-25, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> <URL:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/smart-tvs-are-dumb/581059/>
>> The text below is a quotation from the URL above:
>>>  The problem began mysteriously. I switched on my Samsung Smart TV 
> And there's his problem, right there. He bought a Samdung.

I have a Samsung TV. It was the best price / feature set I wanted, and
one of my important feature requirements was "on set controls to use the
thing without a remote". The Samsungs all have a round button that works
much like a directional controller on a game system and it's very
effective at being able to do all or almost all of what the remote can
do.

I very much did NOT want a smart TV and I have never connected my TV to
my network. Whatever "smarts" it might have in there are limited to
running the code it came with. I have a Roku box for doing my Internet
streaming.

I've seen Sony "smart" TVs get over-the-net updates and noted that the
UI they use is apparently very well tailored to "get approval to do
things without sharing details". Specifically just after turning on the
TV it put a banner across the top ~20% of the screen saying words to
the effect of "This is happening, hit ENTER to accept or SQUARE button
for details or options" and if you hit ENTER, the banner goes away and
you can go back to what you turned the TV on for.

(Which at the time was for a room full of people to watch the company
all-hands video conference call.)

Connecting your TV "directly"[*] to the Internet is a bad idea.

[*] I'm including the typically home NAT in "directly" here. That does
    offer a modicum of firewalling, but doesn't do anything to stop
    the call-home features of the TV.

Elijah
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there's money in tracking what you watch, just ask Nielsen

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#17335

On 2019-01-25, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
> In comp.misc, Huge  <usenet@huge.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 2019-01-25, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> <URL:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/smart-tvs-are-dumb/581059/>
>>> The text below is a quotation from the URL above:
>>>>  The problem began mysteriously. I switched on my Samsung Smart TV 
>> And there's his problem, right there. He bought a Samdung.
>
> I have a Samsung TV. It was the best price / feature set I wanted, and
> one of my important feature requirements was "on set controls to use the
> thing without a remote". The Samsungs all 

Nope. I (stupidly) have a Samdung and it doesn't, ergo you're wrong.

-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 25th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3185
                      ~ Stercus accidit ~

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#17336

On 2019-01-25, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

> Connecting your TV "directly"[*] to the Internet is a bad idea.

Yep. Mine's in a DMZ.

-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 25th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3185
                      ~ Stercus accidit ~

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#17333

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:11:27 +0000, Rich wrote:

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> <URL:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/smart-tvs-ar
> e-dumb/581059/>
> 
Thanks again for another valued post!

Just last week purchased YANTV but ensured that it was NOT smart.
Guess who's smiling now ;)

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