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| Started by | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| First post | 2014-10-07 23:03 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-10-07 21:46 -0400 |
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King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-07 23:03 +0000
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2014-10-07 17:20 -0700
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-10-07 18:42 -0600
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2014-10-08 22:58 -0700
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-10-09 07:58 +0000
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-10-09 22:32 +0200
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-10-09 23:34 +0000
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-10-09 23:12 -0600
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2014-10-10 19:50 -0700
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2014-10-10 19:49 -0700
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-10-16 16:10 +0000
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 23:38 -0700
Re: King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-10-07 21:46 -0400
| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-07 23:03 +0000 |
| Subject | King of click: the story of the greatest keyboard ever made |
| Message-ID | <zu2KVPOZwLQScM/6VSVJ2TIc@dont-email.me> |
http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/7/6882427/king-of-keys The first thing you notice about the IBM Model M keyboard, when you finally get your hands on it, is its size. After years of tapping chiclet keys and glass screens on two- and three-pound devices, hefting five pounds of plastic and metal (including a thick steel plate) is slightly intimidating. The second thing is the sound ? the solid click that's turned a standard-issue beige peripheral into one of the computer world's most prized and useful antiques. Next year, the Model M turns 30. But to many people, it's still the only keyboard worth using. It was recently spotted on the desk of Minecraft creator Markus "Notch" Persson, attached to a gaming PC whose graphic cards alone cost thousands of dollars. "The Model M is basically the best keyboard ever made," he told PC Gamer. YouTube has dozens of Model M typing demos, unboxing videos, and sound comparisons between it and other mechanical keyboards. Since its introduction, the Model M has been the standard to meet for keyboard excellence. ...
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-07 17:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <m12016$c08$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5256 |
On 10/07/2014 04:03 PM, Rich wrote: > http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/7/6882427/king-of-keys > > The first thing you notice about the IBM Model M keyboard, when you > finally get your hands on it, is its size. After years of tapping > chiclet keys and glass screens on two- and three-pound devices, hefting > five pounds of plastic and metal (including a thick steel plate) is > slightly intimidating. The second thing is the sound ? the solid click > that's turned a standard-issue beige peripheral into one of the computer > world's most prized and useful antiques. If it was aimed properly I think you could kill someone with it and keep right on typing. > Next year, the Model M turns 30. But to many people, it's still the only > keyboard worth using. It was recently spotted on the desk of Minecraft > creator Markus "Notch" Persson, attached to a gaming PC whose graphic > cards alone cost thousands of dollars. "The Model M is basically the > best keyboard ever made," he told PC Gamer. YouTube has dozens of Model > M typing demos, unboxing videos, and sound comparisons between it and > other mechanical keyboards. Since its introduction, the Model M has been > the standard to meet for keyboard excellence. As I sit here I see four of the lovely things, and we have spares in the back room. Unlike many, we snapped them up at swap meets and garage sales whenever we found them. Contrary to popular belief, they are not fully waterproof. Apparently someone is producing pricey clones now. I really need to clean mine again. It deserves much better treatment than I give it, but it never complains. It was born the last year the Dodgers won the World Series, a banner year if there ever was one. -- Cheers, Bev ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 666øF -- the oven temperature for roast beast.
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| From | Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> |
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| Date | 2014-10-07 18:42 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <%L%Yv.320298$p7.78186@fx26.iad> |
| In reply to | #5257 |
The Real Bev wrote: > Contrary to popular belief, they are not fully waterproof. > > Apparently someone is producing pricey clones now. > > I really need to clean mine again. It deserves much better treatment > than I give it, but it never complains. It was born the last year the > Dodgers won the World Series, a banner year if there ever was one. > I've found two useful methods for cleaning those things: 1. run it thru the "china" (or gentle) cycle of the dishwasher 2. take it in the shower with you. The first method includes a drying cycle so be careful of getting the cord too close to the heating coil - use the top rack. Also, go easy on detergent. The second method requires a substantial drying time but that can be sped up with a good shop vacuum. -- Will Honea
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-08 22:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <m15862$3tt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5259 |
On 10/07/2014 05:42 PM, Will Honea wrote: > The Real Bev wrote: > >> Contrary to popular belief, they are not fully waterproof. >> >> Apparently someone is producing pricey clones now. >> >> I really need to clean mine again. It deserves much better treatment >> than I give it, but it never complains. It was born the last year the >> Dodgers won the World Series, a banner year if there ever was one. >> > I've found two useful methods for cleaning those things: > > 1. run it thru the "china" (or gentle) cycle of the dishwasher > > 2. take it in the shower with you. > > The first method includes a drying cycle so be careful of getting the cord > too close to the heating coil - use the top rack. Also, go easy on > detergent. The second method requires a substantial drying time but that > can be sped up with a good shop vacuum. When I worked at Magellan back in the dark ages when GPS units were the size and approximate weight of bricks they ran all the boards through the dishwasher as part of the testing process. I just use alcohol and a lot of q-tips. I got a 20-year tennis-ball-size blob of cruft out from beneath the keys -- a job which would have been much easier had I just partially disassembled it. Next time. -- Cheers, Bev ========================================== If god had wanted me to bend over he would have sprinkled the floor with diamonds.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2014-10-09 07:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c9mthaFthg3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #5273 |
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 22:58:25 -0700, The Real Bev wrote: > On 10/07/2014 05:42 PM, Will Honea wrote: >> The Real Bev wrote: >> >>> Contrary to popular belief, they are not fully waterproof. >>> >>> Apparently someone is producing pricey clones now. >>> >>> I really need to clean mine again. It deserves much better treatment >>> than I give it, but it never complains. It was born the last year the >>> Dodgers won the World Series, a banner year if there ever was one. >>> >> I've found two useful methods for cleaning those things: >> >> 1. run it thru the "china" (or gentle) cycle of the dishwasher >> >> 2. take it in the shower with you. >> >> The first method includes a drying cycle so be careful of getting the >> cord too close to the heating coil - use the top rack. Also, go easy >> on detergent. The second method requires a substantial drying time but >> that can be sped up with a good shop vacuum. > > When I worked at Magellan back in the dark ages when GPS units were the > size and approximate weight of bricks they ran all the boards through > the dishwasher as part of the testing process. > > I just use alcohol and a lot of q-tips. I got a 20-year > tennis-ball-size blob of cruft out from beneath the keys -- a job which > would have been much easier had I just partially disassembled it. Next > time. I usually: - split the casing - needs a deep thin walled socket of a suitable size to undo the screws. - remove the innards - one more screw and detach a ribbon cable. - clean casing with foaming cleaner - clean out underneath the innards and re-install - remove all keytops and keys - take care with the big ones and the space bar - individually clean all keytops with faoming cleane, rinse and dry - clean out cruft under where the keys were - IPA and cotton buds - reassemble! -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-10-09 22:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pv7jgb-a3s2.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #5274 |
On 2014-10-09, Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote: > > I usually: > > - split the casing - needs a deep thin walled socket of a suitable size > to undo the screws. > - remove the innards - one more screw and detach a ribbon cable. > - clean casing with foaming cleaner > - clean out underneath the innards and re-install > - remove all keytops and keys - take care with the big ones and the space > bar > - individually clean all keytops with faoming cleane, rinse and dry > - clean out cruft under where the keys were - IPA and cotton buds > - reassemble! I've found it's wise to take a photo of the keyboard first. It takes any guesswork out of putting the keys back :-) -- An invention needs to make sense in the world in which it's finished, not the world in which it's started. -- Ray Kurzweil
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| From | Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2014-10-09 23:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c9okcuF6gmfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #5285 |
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:32:25 +0200, Paul Sture wrote: > On 2014-10-09, Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote: >> >> I usually: >> >> - split the casing - needs a deep thin walled socket of a suitable size >> to undo the screws. >> - remove the innards - one more screw and detach a ribbon cable. >> - clean casing with foaming cleaner - clean out underneath the innards >> and re-install - remove all keytops and keys - take care with the big >> ones and the space bar - individually clean all keytops with faoming >> cleane, rinse and dry - clean out cruft under where the keys were - IPA >> and cotton buds - reassemble! > > I've found it's wise to take a photo of the keyboard first. It takes > any guesswork out of putting the keys back :-) No need. I have about 20 of them, so I always have another to refer to! -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> |
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| Date | 2014-10-09 23:12 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <bVJZv.618097$fF3.609992@fx31.iad> |
| In reply to | #5287 |
Bob Eager wrote: > No need. I have about 20 of them, so I always have another to refer to! > LOL! A hoarder after my own heart. When MCI (before they merged) got all new Dell kit, I snagged a couple of dozen of those keyboards from the discard ATs. Computer weren't worth anything but I couldn't stand the thought of those keyboards going to scrap. -- Will Honea
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-10 19:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <m1a5uh$7nv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5289 |
On 10/09/2014 10:12 PM, Will Honea wrote: > Bob Eager wrote: > >> No need. I have about 20 of them, so I always have another to refer to! > > LOL! A hoarder after my own heart. When MCI (before they merged) got all > new Dell kit, I snagged a couple of dozen of those keyboards from the > discard ATs. Computer weren't worth anything but I couldn't stand the > thought of those keyboards going to scrap. When the Martian archaeologists are digging through what remains of earth, the only sign that there was ever a civilization here will be thousand of Schwinn Varsity bicycles and IBM Model M keyboards. -- Cheers, Bev =================================================== Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-10 19:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <m1a5r1$7nv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5287 |
On 10/09/2014 04:34 PM, Bob Eager wrote: > On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:32:25 +0200, Paul Sture wrote: > >> On 2014-10-09, Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote: >>> >>> I usually: >>> >>> - split the casing - needs a deep thin walled socket of a suitable size >>> to undo the screws. >>> - remove the innards - one more screw and detach a ribbon cable. >>> - clean casing with foaming cleaner - clean out underneath the innards >>> and re-install - remove all keytops and keys - take care with the big >>> ones and the space bar - individually clean all keytops with faoming >>> cleane, rinse and dry - clean out cruft under where the keys were - IPA >>> and cotton buds - reassemble! Next time, but I think I'll leave the underkeys on and just remove the separate tops. Or do what I did last time -- take the tops off one at a time and clean them with alcohol. Sometimes brainless repetitive tasks are exactly what one needs... >> I've found it's wise to take a photo of the keyboard first. It takes >> any guesswork out of putting the keys back :-) > > No need. I have about 20 of them, so I always have another to refer to! When the zombie apocalypse arrives, some of us will be able to bash in the heads of the zombies as well as keep up our email correspondence. -- Cheers, Bev "As a mortician I always tie the shoelaces of the dead together. If there actually is a zombie apocalypse it will be hilarious."
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| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-16 16:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20141016161046.8c31c875.rsw@therandymon.com> |
| In reply to | #5296 |
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:49:06 -0700 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: > When the zombie apocalypse arrives, some of us will be able to bash in > the heads of the zombies as well as keep up our email correspondence. Don't they say the Model M is the only keyboard you can use to bash some guy's head in, and then still type his obituary with it?
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 23:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <m1t1tq$ik5$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5325 |
On 10/16/2014 09:10 AM, RS Wood wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:49:06 -0700 > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: > >> When the zombie apocalypse arrives, some of us will be able to bash in >> the heads of the zombies as well as keep up our email correspondence. > > Don't they say the Model M is the only keyboard you can use to bash > some guy's head in, and then still type his obituary with it? Hmph. Must have stolen that from me :-) -- Cheers, Bev --------------------------------------------------------- If I know that chaining yourself to a dead cow is stupid, how come Carly makes so much more money than I do?
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| From | Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2014-10-07 21:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m12512$ubb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5256 |
Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes: > http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/7/6882427/king-of-keys > > The first thing you notice about the IBM Model M keyboard, when you > finally get your hands on it, is its size. I loved the model M, but feel that the current Cherry keyboards are a better deal. Familiar key layout and close enough to the M in terms of feel that it makes no difference. True, I can't defeat an attacking horde with the keyboard as my only weapon. I have an old M up in the attic, but I think it will stay up there for a while longer. -- Dan Espen
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