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| Started by | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| First post | 2014-06-24 16:51 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-06-24 21:24 +0000 |
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[CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-24 16:51 +0000
Re: [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2014-06-24 13:37 -0400
Re: [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-06-24 21:24 +0000
| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-24 16:51 +0000 |
| Subject | [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation |
| Message-ID | <locab7$t5a$1@solani.org> |
From the «it's the SecondaryFrame that's outta here» department: Title: Mainframe technology is here to stay. Just add innovation. Author: zafiro17@pipedot.org Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 08:23:58 -0400 Link: http://pipedot.org/story/2014-06-24/mainframe-technology-is-here-to-stay-just-add-innovation Where mainframe computers are concerned, the Technology Spectator says it better than I could[1]: In a world where IT continues to power forward, the longevity of the mainframe and its place in today’s computing environment is increasingly being questioned. With ‘change’ often confused with ‘progress’, a mainframe’s durability can work against it. As demand grows for more agile and innovative systems, it is difficult to reconcile a technology in its sixth decade with the technology we carry around in our pockets or use at home. But while dissenters continue to challenge the validity of the mainframe, the technology keeps on proving its worth. Few consumers know or understand that "ancient" mainframe technology is working behind the scenes in the banking, travel, and insurance sectors, and that's unlikely to change. What is changing though is the insertion of start-up mentality and innovation into the mainframe ecosystem, like Splunk, a search specialist, teaming up with Syncsort[2] to unlock some of the data being produced by mainframe systems. What does not change though, is the fact that mainframe systesm require specialized skillsets, and those experts are getting hard to find[3]. Not a good thing in an environment of ever-more-stringent compliance and regulatatory requirements. Links: [1]: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/6/9/technology/ibm-mainframe-golden-oldie-or-modern-marvel (link) [2]: http://www.zdnet.com/splunk-teams-with-syncsort-for-mainframe-machine-data-7000030822/ (link) [3]: http://www.bobsguide.com/guide/news/2014/Jun/12/banking-system-compliance-and-complexity-set-to-test-mainframe-mettle.html (link)
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-24 13:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m3simuky3z.fsf@garlic.com> |
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there are a couple of such discussions in linkedin mainframe oriented groups (both ibm employees and customers). 1qtr2014 IBM financials has the equivalent of 17-18 max-configured ec12 (latest ibm mainframe) being sold (56 on annualized basis) @33M which is rated at 75BIPS ... or about $440K/BIPS ... is built out of 32nm technology, six processors in 597mm chip. a typical cloud megadatacenter has more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today ... a typical component is e5-2600v1 blade which they build for possibly $1/BIPS. currently selling are e5-2600v2 and coming on line this year are e5-2600v3 blades using 14nm technology ... intel has spent $5B on 14nm technology fab and will feature move from 300mm wafers to 450mm wafers if the ec12 chip was simply remapped from 32nm to 14nm 450mm wafer ... a total full years sale of ec12 then is single wafer. ibm mainframe CKD DASD haven't been manufactured for decades ... being simulated on industry standard fixed-block disk ... because their mainstream mainframe operating system doesn't have support for fixed-block disks. ibm mainframe i/o "channels" are called "FICON", a heavyweight protocol layer that runs on industry standard fibre-channel (and drastically reduces native throughput). A mainframe max I/O benchmark published for z196 (precursor to ec12) used 104 FICON to get 2M IOPS ... about the same time a single fibre-channel was announced for e5-2600 claiming over 1M IOPS (two such "native" fibre-channel having higher throughput than 104 FICON). again for z196 (i don't think they have published for ec12 yet), peak i/o SSCH operations is 2.2M/sec with all i/o system assist processors running at 100% busy ... however, they recommend not running the mainframe SAPs more than 75% busy or 1.5M SSCH/sec. the published numbers for ec12 claim only 30% increase in I/O over z196 (possibly because of combination of FICON and SAP limitations). max configured z196 was 80 processors for 50BIPS (625MIPS/processor) while ec12 is 101 processors for 75BIPS (743MIPS/processor) posts mentioning FICON http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon recent posts mentioning ec12 &/or z196 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#49 Beyond the EC12 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#50 Beyond the EC12 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#51 Beyond the EC12 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#53 IBM hopes new chip can turn the tables on Intel http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#65 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#67 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#72 Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#86 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#12 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#20 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#49 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#105 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution? -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-06-24 21:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c0u8jnFcgp3U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3817 |
On 2014-06-24, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote: > What does not change though, is the fact > that mainframe systesm require specialized skillsets, and those experts are > getting hard to find[3]. At my Place of Work, they're all retiring. We've just had to get back our retired Assembler programmer, the last one in the place, to do some changes. (I told him to think of a number, change up to the next unit of measure and then treble it.) -- Today is Setting Orange, the 29th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3180 "I do not believe in revealed religion — I will have nothing to do with your immortality; we are miserable enough in this life, without speculating on another." Lord Byron, 1778-1824, letter to Rev. Francis Hodgson, 1811
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