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Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

Started byRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
First post2014-03-17 12:39 +0000
Last post2014-03-19 08:08 +0000
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  Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-17 12:39 +0000
    Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-17 15:54 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-17 16:10 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? "Julio Di Egidio" <julio@diegidio.name> - 2014-03-17 21:47 +0000
        Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-18 09:10 +0000
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? "Julio Di Egidio" <julio@diegidio.name> - 2014-03-18 11:55 +0000
    Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-17 22:23 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? "John" <j@j.j> - 2014-03-18 09:34 -0700
        Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-18 17:48 +0000
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-18 18:28 +0000
            Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-18 19:27 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-18 22:03 +0000
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-18 22:26 +0000
                  Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 14:12 +0100
                    Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-03-19 12:18 -0500
                      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? "John" <j@j.j> - 2014-03-19 13:26 -0700
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 01:46 +0100
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 12:39 +0000
            Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-21 13:27 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-21 16:12 +0100
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 15:32 +0000
            Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-21 16:07 +0100
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-21 15:18 +0000
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-21 23:26 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-21 18:15 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 09:51 -0400
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-03-22 13:54 +0000
                  Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-22 15:07 +0000
        Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-18 19:14 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-19 08:08 +0000

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#1860 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-03-21 15:32 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<lghm1q$v4$1@solani.org>
In reply to#1856
> I give you this example, from the Oxford University Press, no less:
>
/productize>
>

My eyes bleed.  Add "liase" to the list, and in my company, "diligence"
as a verb.  "Did you diligence it?" </nails on blackboard>

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#1855 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-03-21 16:07 +0100
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<q51uva-tfe2.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#1851
On 2014-03-21, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>
>> loosing?
>>
>
> Ha - found this old Oatmeal cartoon while looking for something else.
> Relevant.
>
> http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/english
>
> "your/you're, its/it's, definately ... etc" along with
>
> "Tip: win = opposite of lose, loose = your mom"
>
> and "irregardless is not a word unless you're an imbecile."

wierd/weird is a good one, because the proper spelling breaks the "i after
e except before c" rule, quite appropriately for the meaning of the word.

Affect/effect and one I mounted a personal campaign about a dozen years
or so ago: assure/insure.  Back then the online version of Merriam Webster
had the wrong version  of that.

I had a major problem with the fact that the online version of the OED
cost was so expensive.  How could we defend correct spelling when the
only decent online reference works were several hundred bucks a year?

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

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#1857 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2014-03-21 15:18 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<bp33hjFn1kbU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1855
On 2014-03-21, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-03-21, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> loosing?
>>>
>>
>> Ha - found this old Oatmeal cartoon while looking for something else.
>> Relevant.
>>
>> http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/english
>>
>> "your/you're, its/it's, definately ... etc" along with
>>
>> "Tip: win = opposite of lose, loose = your mom"
>>
>> and "irregardless is not a word unless you're an imbecile."
>
> wierd/weird is a good one, because the proper spelling breaks the "i after
> e except before c" rule, quite appropriately for the meaning of the word.

Given that there are more exceptions than not, it isn't much of a rule.

-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 7th day of Discord in the YOLD 3180
A non-empty Hausdorff topological space is a continuous image of the unit
interval if and only if it is a compact, connected, locally connected
second-countable space.

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#1873 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromJohny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com>
Date2014-03-21 23:26 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<1iipi9h1g26hclv49vj7qv8km29kmt0d5h@4ax.com>
In reply to#1857
On 21 Mar 2014 15:18:11 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

>On 2014-03-21, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-21, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> loosing?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ha - found this old Oatmeal cartoon while looking for something else.
>>> Relevant.
>>>
>>> http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/english
>>>
>>> "your/you're, its/it's, definately ... etc" along with
>>>
>>> "Tip: win = opposite of lose, loose = your mom"
>>>
>>> and "irregardless is not a word unless you're an imbecile."
>>
>> wierd/weird is a good one, because the proper spelling breaks the "i after
>> e except before c" rule, quite appropriately for the meaning of the word.
>
>Given that there are more exceptions than not, it isn't much of a rule.

 It's called "QI" for a very good reason. :-)
-- 
Regards, J B Good

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#1866 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-03-21 18:15 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<slrnlip0dl.2rg.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#1855
In message <q51uva-tfe2.ln1@news.chingola.ch> 
  Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-03-21, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> loosing?
>>>
>>
>> Ha - found this old Oatmeal cartoon while looking for something else.
>> Relevant.
>>
>> http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/english
>>
>> "your/you're, its/it's, definately ... etc" along with
>>
>> "Tip: win = opposite of lose, loose = your mom"
>>
>> and "irregardless is not a word unless you're an imbecile."

> wierd/weird is a good one, because the proper spelling breaks the "i after
> e except before c" rule, quite appropriately for the meaning of the word.

Despite a couple of generations of English teacher's attempts to amke
this 'rule' useful, there is no such rule in English. In fact, there are
more exceptions to it than there are examples of it.

A better rule, though not universal would be "I before E except after C
when IE is pronounced 'EE'". Weird is still and exception (so are
caffeine and seize).

From QI:
And what we found was 923 words which have <cie>, 2,606 words which have
<ei> after something other than <c>, and just 167 words which really do
have <cei>. (Of which only six are really in everyday use.)


-- 
I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you.

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#1888 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromSpalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-22 09:51 -0400
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<8f4ri99eetf48lupv9hb7ngia43rlkakml@4ax.com>
In reply to#1855
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:07:06 +0100, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
wrote:

>On 2014-03-21, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

>wierd/weird is a good one, because the proper spelling breaks the "i after
>e except before c" rule, quite appropriately for the meaning of the word.

Ahem.

"I before E except after C, or when sounding like "ay" as in neighbor
or weigh."

Which of course still doesn't help with "weird" (or "height", or
"heifer" or "ancient" or a dozen other words) but people always seem
to forget the second half of the rhyme.

English is just strange.

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#1889 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromRichard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk>
Date2014-03-22 13:54 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<wwvfvma8hju.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid>
In reply to#1888
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:
> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>>wierd/weird is a good one, because the proper spelling breaks the "i after
>>e except before c" rule, quite appropriately for the meaning of the word.
>
> Ahem.
>
> "I before E except after C, or when sounding like "ay" as in neighbor
> or weigh."
>
> Which of course still doesn't help with "weird" (or "height", or
> "heifer" or "ancient" or a dozen other words) but people always seem
> to forget the second half of the rhyme.
>
> English is just strange.

For a pretty good account of how English orthography ended up this way:
  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spell-It-Out-Singular-Spelling/dp/1846685672

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#1892 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2014-03-22 15:07 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<bp5n8vFa1g4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1889
On 2014-03-22, Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:
>> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>>>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>
>>>wierd/weird is a good one, because the proper spelling breaks the "i after
>>>e except before c" rule, quite appropriately for the meaning of the word.
>>
>> Ahem.
>>
>> "I before E except after C, or when sounding like "ay" as in neighbor
>> or weigh."
>>
>> Which of course still doesn't help with "weird" (or "height", or
>> "heifer" or "ancient" or a dozen other words) but people always seem
>> to forget the second half of the rhyme.
>>
>> English is just strange.
>
> For a pretty good account of how English orthography ended up this way:
>   http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spell-It-Out-Singular-Spelling/dp/1846685672

I can strongly recommend World Wide Words if you're interested in this
sort of thing;

http://www.worldwidewords.org/


-- 
Today is Sweetmorn, the 8th day of Discord in the YOLD 3180
A non-empty Hausdorff topological space is a continuous image of the unit
interval if and only if it is a compact, connected, locally connected
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#1772 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromOregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com>
Date2014-03-18 19:14 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<1482789114416861863.770920bob_davis_retired-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#1767
"John" <j@j.j> wrote:
> "Oregonian Haruspex" <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:193729505416787719.549721bob_davis_retired-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org...
>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>> From the «Got Root?» department:
>>> Title: The Internet Is About to Take Its Next Giant Evolutionary Leap
>>> Author: Sam Gustin
>>> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:47:34 -0400
>>> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~3/yMncl2Uam-c/
>>> Podcast Download URL:
>>> http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1bf50c917fee8778c289fc16128f5baf?s=96&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96
>>> 
>>> The U.S. plan to relinquish stewardship of key technical functions that
>>> ensure the Internet runs properly drew praise and criticism over the 
>>> weekend.
> 
> <....snip....>
> 
>> That gives me just enough time to get my Echolink setup on HF going, just
>> in case the Dutch and Saudis decide to team up with the Chinese and censor
>> the hell out of the net.
> 
> <ot>
> I had an Echolink set up for a while in the late 90's - but the disaster 
> never came (yet); I guess I should set it up again!
> </ot>
> 
> The whole concept of ICANN loosing even the modicum of control they have is 
> scary - sure, it's a US based non-profit, but giving that up to a few 
> mega-profit corps - bad plan

I mentioned those three countries specifically because they have very
oppressive anti-free-speech laws.

I'm a relatively new ham so all this stuff like Echolink is new to me!

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#1787 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2014-03-19 08:08 +0000
SubjectRe: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?
Message-ID<bot1jjFeg23U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1748
On 2014-03-17, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> From the «Got Root?» department:

[187 lines snipped]

> That gives me just enough time to get my Echolink setup on HF going, just
> in case the Dutch and Saudis decide to team up with the Chinese and censor
> the hell out of the net.

Is your Delete key broken?

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Celebrate Mojoday
A non-empty Hausdorff topological space is a continuous image of the unit
interval if and only if it is a compact, connected, locally connected
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