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| Started by | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2014-02-06 22:38 -0800 |
| Last post | 2014-02-26 17:30 +0000 |
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Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-06 22:38 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! xyzzy <stalkers-suck@grr.la> - 2014-02-07 00:16 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "I'm Batman, Dammit" <batman@thecave.invalid> - 2014-02-07 09:44 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:39 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-08 22:46 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-09 23:14 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-10 01:55 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-09 21:12 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-09 18:28 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-09 23:35 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 12:39 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-11 04:05 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 09:25 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:11 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-26 22:20 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-03-02 23:40 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-20 17:14 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-03-05 10:05 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:03 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-07 10:47 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 21:40 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> - 2014-02-08 08:51 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Austin Wolfe <aewolfe@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2014-03-05 01:58 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-05 09:37 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-03-05 14:25 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-03-05 07:02 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 10:55 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-06 12:09 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-06 14:13 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-06 16:56 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-06 17:05 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-16 14:39 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-16 17:25 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 22:47 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> - 2014-03-17 08:20 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 22:55 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-06 21:18 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-06 23:00 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-07 00:53 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-07 04:58 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-07 10:11 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-07 21:04 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-07 10:52 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-07 13:02 +0200
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-07 12:26 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-07 15:15 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-07 20:55 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-06 14:03 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 17:55 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:43 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-03-06 10:48 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 19:45 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:15 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-10 20:25 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-03-10 14:07 -0700
Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) Christian <chris_news@arcor.de> - 2014-03-22 09:40 +0100
Re: Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) "voyager529" <voyager529@live.com> - 2015-03-27 10:14 -0400
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-10 21:55 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-10 22:25 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 06:14 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-11 07:55 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 08:38 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-12 08:08 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-11 10:31 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-10 22:26 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Dario Niedermann <dnied@tiscali.it> - 2014-03-11 10:42 +0100
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-03-10 22:05 -0700
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Chris Elvidge <chris@raspberrypi.mshome.net> - 2014-03-11 10:48 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 09:48 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-05 15:22 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! nobody@nowhere.invalid (natp) - 2014-03-06 02:42 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-03-06 06:08 -0600
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-06 14:10 +0200
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:26 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-03-06 16:56 +0200
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-06 18:25 +0200
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 11:55 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-07 19:30 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:35 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 12:37 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-25 23:50 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 14:23 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 00:15 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:41 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 10:09 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 15:44 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Brian Burns <spamcan@tannasg.tk> - 2014-02-08 17:18 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-08 18:34 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 19:52 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 10:25 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 03:20 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 09:36 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! junkmailid1@gmail.com - 2014-02-09 13:27 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! invis <invis@invis.net> - 2014-02-10 00:31 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! AnonymousCoward <florian.doyon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 04:50 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! gm_stack <gm@stackunderflow.com> - 2014-02-10 05:04 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! arcfide@sacrideo.us (Aaron W. Hsu) - 2014-02-23 03:02 -0500
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-23 09:34 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-02-23 07:31 -0800
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-23 17:36 +0000
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-23 12:23 +0200
Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-02-26 17:30 +0000
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| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-07 10:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lfc604$htf$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #1320 |
On 2014-03-06, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote: > I call that extreme egotism, or possibly narcissism. I'd call it a combination of arrogance and perhaps masochism - he enjoys knowing it bothers others and enjoys not doing anything about it. The 'Net is full of those people, as hardly needs mentioning. SLRN newsreader at least offers helpful killfile functionality where you simply 'downgrade' a user's posts. That's easily circumvented by the offende nymshifting, which remains a weakness of Usenet. The really effective approach is to have everyone systematically ignore the offender until he gets bored and goes away. Not easy ...
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| From | Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-03-07 21:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lfd8o9$r1a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1329 |
On Friday 07 March 2014 11:11, RS Wood conveyed the following to
comp.misc...
> On 2014-03-06, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I call that extreme egotism, or possibly narcissism.
>
> I'd call it a combination of arrogance and perhaps masochism - he
> enjoys knowing it bothers others and enjoys not doing anything about
> it. The 'Net is full of those people, as hardly needs mentioning.
>
> SLRN newsreader at least offers helpful killfile functionality where
> you simply 'downgrade' a user's posts. That's easily circumvented by
> the offende nymshifting, which remains a weakness of Usenet. The
> really effective approach is to have everyone systematically ignore
> the offender until he gets bored and goes away. Not easy ...
KNode also uses scores, and a threshold below which posts are no longer
shown. However, the action of marking them as read is separate. One
can also mark posts as read without that they are actually hidden from
view.
One of the big downsides of KNode however is that it has loads of
undocumented scoring features. I wish someone would write the
documentation for those.
--
= Aragorn =
http://www.linuxcounter.net - registrant #223157
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-03-07 10:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlhj96h.2urb.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #1320 |
In message <lfb1pu$j06$1@dont-email.me> Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote: > On Friday 07 March 2014 00:00, Johny B Good conveyed the following to > comp.misc... >> On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:18:20 +0100, Aragorn >> <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 06 March 2014 17:56, Johny B Good conveyed the following >>> to comp.misc... >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:13:31 +0100, Aragorn >>>> <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday 06 March 2014 13:09, RS Wood conveyed the following to >>>>> comp.misc... >>>>> >>>>>> I hope to God no one is posting from GG here - vomit. >>>>> >>>>> Better get yourself a bucket then. :p >>>> >>>> I take it that this a reference to the famous "Bit Bucket" I've >>>> seen frequent mentions of, which I have yet to clap eyes upon. [...] >>> >>> No, I meant a real bucket. He said he was going to vomit, see. :p >> >> Oops! My bad. I find it's all too easy to get those two mixed up >> whenever GoogleGroups is mentioned. > I hear you. Because of the low quality content - read: posters who > persist in maintaining an uncooperative attitude - in combination with > the repulsive mangling of Usenet posts by Google Groups, I have by now > added most of the newsgroups I'm subscribed to to my Google Groups > filter. I've been seriously tempted to simply killfile any post that contains googlegroup in the references (I already kill them if they originate from GG). -- 'But look,' said Ponder, 'the graveyards are full of people who rushed in bravely but unwisely.' 'Ook.' 'What did he say?' said the Bursar. 'I think he said, "Sooner or later the graveyards are full of everybody".'
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-07 13:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87siqu9spt.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #1332 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>: > I've been seriously tempted to simply killfile any post that contains > googlegroup in the references (I already kill them if they originate > from GG). I put in my killfile anybody who talks about talking. Oh, now I'm in my own killfile... Marko
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-07 12:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <070320141226574170%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #1333 |
In article <87siqu9spt.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote: > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>: > > > I've been seriously tempted to simply killfile any post that contains > > googlegroup in the references (I already kill them if they originate > > from GG). > > I put in my killfile anybody who talks about talking. > > Oh, now I'm in my own killfile... Well done. You've nailed the b/s going on here good and proper. There's been too much content-free meta-discussion going on, not least by the spammer-in-chief Mr Wood, who has posted more here than everyone else put together. He'll get the ng he gets and like it. -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-07 15:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <07ojh95pcptcpds6fnht3gss5f12n79jvh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1333 |
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:02:54 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote: >Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>: > >> I've been seriously tempted to simply killfile any post that contains >> googlegroup in the references (I already kill them if they originate >> from GG). > >I put in my killfile anybody who talks about talking. > >Oh, now I'm in my own killfile... > You can laugh but it's entirely possible to killfile your own posts as I discovered over a decade back when I accidently killfiled myself (I think it was by subject though rather than by sender). Unfortunately with Free Agent, this mistake is no longer possible ( I aint about to cough up for the full version when the freeby is just sufficient for my needs - I've got an effective enough killfile built into my mind already anyway). -- Regards, J B Good
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| From | greymausg <maus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-07 20:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlhka2m.adq.maus@gmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #1341 |
On 2014-03-07, Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:02:54 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> > wrote: > >>Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>: >> >>> I've been seriously tempted to simply killfile any post that contains >>> googlegroup in the references (I already kill them if they originate >>> from GG). >> >>I put in my killfile anybody who talks about talking. >> >>Oh, now I'm in my own killfile... >> > > You can laugh but it's entirely possible to killfile your own posts > as I discovered over a decade back when I accidently killfiled myself > (I think it was by subject though rather than by sender). > > Unfortunately with Free Agent, this mistake is no longer possible ( I > aint about to cough up for the full version when the freeby is just > sufficient for my needs - I've got an effective enough killfile built > into my mind already anyway). Book once, "The Book of Ultimate failures"(or summat like that)had lists of people who went for election and got no votes. That was when you could not vote for oneself. A friend of mine went for a local election and nobody voted for him, which is how he discovered that his wife had voted for someone else. -- maus . . ...
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-03-06 14:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <leCdnUkhmt2wHYXOnZ2dnUVZ7t6dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1286 |
RS Wood wrote: > On 2014-03-06, greymausg <maus@mail.com> wrote: > >> some Agents used on this group: >> >> 11 Mozilla >> 9 G2 >> >> (G2 is, I think, GooGleGroups). There are other agents but they do >> not include agent headers, I think) > > G2 is Gravity, I think, a Win app. I hope to God no one is posting from GG > here - vomit. No, I think greymausg is correct, but if anyone is returning to usenet, then google groups is a pretty poor way of doing so.
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| From | greymausg <maus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-06 17:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlhhbrg.5av.maus@gmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #1292 |
On 2014-03-06, Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote: > RS Wood wrote: > >> On 2014-03-06, greymausg <maus@mail.com> wrote: >> >>> some Agents used on this group: >>> >>> 11 Mozilla >>> 9 G2 >>> >>> (G2 is, I think, GooGleGroups). There are other agents but they do >>> not include agent headers, I think) >> >> G2 is Gravity, I think, a Win app. I hope to God no one is posting from GG >> here - vomit. > > No, I think greymausg is correct, but if anyone is returning to usenet, > then google groups is a pretty poor way of doing so. > > G2 is horrible, wwith those long lines, never could use it myself. Its a matter of balance, some of the most interesting posters use it. I suppose like having a friend with a bad stutter. (I aam told that the problem is that it reformats text) I aam trying Knode now aafter this to see how it identifies as Agent: -- maus . . ...
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| From | Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-06 13:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlhgur4.76m.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1286 |
On 2014-03-06, RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote: > On 2014-03-06, greymausg <maus@mail.com> wrote: >> some Agents used on this group: >> >> 11 Mozilla >> 9 G2 >> 5 slrn >> 4 Forte >> 3 tin >> 2 Gnus >> 1 Thoth >> 1 Pan >> 1 NewsTap >> 1 NewsgroupsRT >> 1 Microsoft >> 1 Claws >> 1 Alpine >> >> (G2 is, I think, GooGleGroups). There are other agents but they do >> not include agent headers, I think) > > G2 is Gravity, I think, a Win app. I hope to God no one is posting from GG > here - vomit. "G2" is indeed the Google Groups web forum interface to usenet. Of 850 articles in my local spool for comp.misc at the moment, 25 were posted from there. > I also use on a daily basis depending on what machine I'm in > front of: > > Newswatcher MT (Mac OSX) > Unison (Mac OSX) > NNTP Reader (Android) > Phonews (Android) > Knode (Linux/KDE) > Seamonkey (several OSes) (guess that's Mozilla on the above list) As there seems to be some interest in such things, I'll start a group statistics thread and see what happens ... -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-03-06 10:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <bnru7bFe0hsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1284 |
greymausg wrote: > some Agents used on this group: > > 11 Mozilla > 9 G2 > 5 slrn > 4 Forte > 3 tin > 2 Gnus > 1 Thoth > 1 Pan > 1 NewsTap > 1 NewsgroupsRT > 1 Microsoft > 1 Claws > 1 Alpine > > (G2 is, I think, GooGleGroups). There are other agents but they do > not include agent headers, I think) Your survey says 9/41 posters/messages here are GG (or 9 are and 32 are not GG). I don't see nearly that many. I would have suspected that you were using a server that didn't filter GG spam, but I see that you are using individual.net which has an excellent spam filter, including that sourced from GG. I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have posted since the Slashdot refugee migration. -- Mike Easter
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| From | greymausg <maus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-06 19:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlhhjiq.5qt.maus@gmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #1308 |
On 2014-03-06, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote: > greymausg wrote: > >> some Agents used on this group: >> >> 11 Mozilla >> 9 G2 >> 5 slrn >> 4 Forte >> 3 tin >> 2 Gnus >> 1 Thoth >> 1 Pan >> 1 NewsTap >> 1 NewsgroupsRT >> 1 Microsoft >> 1 Claws >> 1 Alpine >> >> (G2 is, I think, GooGleGroups). There are other agents but they do >> not include agent headers, I think) > > Your survey says 9/41 posters/messages here are GG (or 9 are and 32 are > not GG). I don't see nearly that many. I would have suspected that you > were using a server that didn't filter GG spam, but I see that you are > using individual.net which has an excellent spam filter, including that > sourced from GG. > > I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have > posted since the Slashdot refugee migration. > The above script breaks (as in break) when if finds an identical From: header. so `what', 13 different agents? Only started reading comp.misc recently and havnt a good store of messages in my spool, about 82, so I filtering them to see those who have neither User-Agent: or X-Newsreader headers. I wrote the scripts for alt.folklore.computers, but a troll on that board ,Speed, started using differing alias's, so reduced the usefullness of the script. The idea is to see how well (hard-to-learn but powerfull agents) like Gnus compare in users against easy-but-dumb things like G2 Sampling a list of (generally linuxish groups) 3465 g2 603 xrn 202 Mozilla 112 Microsoft 69 Forte 40 slrn 33 trn 28 Gnus 27 Pan 21 Mutt 12 tin 11 MT-NewsWatcher 8 MacSOUP 7 Turnpike 6 NewsTap 5 Opera 5 Claws 4 Thunderbird 4 KMail 4 1 3 Thoth 3 Sylpheed 3 Direct 3 Alpine 2 Xnews 2 Roundcube 2 Pluto 2 Loom 1 XPN 1 Virtual 1 U 1 TomBNewz 1 THOR 1 SNews 1 Second 1 RoundCube 1 Postbox 1 Pineapple 1 PiaoHong 1 MR 1 Messenger-Pro 1 knews 1 K-9 1 Jan's 1 Hermes `Thor' is likely Charle Gibbs Amiga! (Some may not be agents. NewsBeuther seems to be slipping through) -- maus . . ...
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| From | wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-06 13:15 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <af6441c7-c9d7-4aee-8260-1d31a62f65cc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1308 |
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:48:11 PM UTC-5, Mike Easter wrote: > I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have > posted since the Slashdot refugee migration. I use it occasionally, when it's the only thing available or when otherwise convenient to do so (like right now). Whenever I do use GG, I fix (manually) all the stupid formatting problems that it causes. Most of the time, however, I use a normal newsreader app or http://squte.com to post (via Eternal September of Individual.net). By the way, I'm apparently the only person that uses NewsgroupRT. If you have Windows 8, it might be worth a look; I use it on my tablet and I'm pretty happy with it. The developer is also pretty responsive to bug reports and feature requests. I've gotten every- thing I've asked for since I started using it. -- I drive a '74 AMC Hornet in my dreams. Also, I really like cheese.
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| From | Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-10 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lfl749$ofa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1308 |
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:48:11 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have > posted since the Slashdot refugee migration. I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443 seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a university). Anyway, I won't do it again, I'll wait until I'm at home and use Pan to post.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-03-10 14:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bo6nscFmvgjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1432 |
Koen Lefever wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: > >> I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who >> have posted since the Slashdot refugee migration. > > I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & > 443 seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange > for a university). You are currently posting from e-s which also has a port 80 server reader80.eternal-september.org http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo > Anyway, I won't do it again, I'll wait until I'm at home and use Pan to > post. Once upon a time GG used to be useful for its search function on the archives, but now that is pretty much shot. Also, once upon a time one could (also) post from GG without being 'disruptive', but that is now b0rken as well. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Christian <chris_news@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2014-03-22 09:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) |
| Message-ID | <bp50klF57qhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1434 |
On 03/10/2014 10:07 PM, Mike Easter wrote: > Once upon a time GG used to be useful for its search function on the > archives, but now that is pretty much shot. I don't know why they killed the search function. It seems to be incomplete not to mention the user interface! Is there any alternative? - Chris
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| From | "voyager529" <voyager529@live.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-27 10:14 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) |
| Message-ID | <551565c8$0$44167$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #1881 |
On 3/22/2014 4:40:56 AM, Christian wrote: > On 03/10/2014 10:07 PM, Mike Easter wrote: >> Once upon a time GG used to be useful for its search function on the >> archives, but now that is pretty much shot. > > I don't know why they killed the search function. It seems to be > incomplete not to mention the user interface! Is there any alternative? > > - Chris > It's kind of ironic, IMO, that Google has made a mess of the "search" function, given that that's what they're known for. I've been using both Pan and NewsMan Pro, and been very happy with both, for different reasons (Pan is simpler, NMP is more powerful)...but if you're looking for browser based, I'm unaware of something besides Google Groups.
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| From | greymausg <maus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-10 21:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlhsans.36r.maus@gmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #1432 |
On 2014-03-10, Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:48:11 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > >> I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have >> posted since the Slashdot refugee migration. > > I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443 > seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a > university). > > Anyway, I won't do it again, I'll wait until I'm at home and use Pan to > post. AFAImake out. Google removes EOLs, qnd dosn't reinsert them, because HTML will fit the data to the frame.. and their aim is to migrate all to HTML -- maus . . ...
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-10 22:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <100320142225130175%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #1432 |
In article <lfl749$ofa$1@dont-email.me>, Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:48:11 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > > > I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have > > posted since the Slashdot refugee migration. > > I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443 > seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a > university). What are you doing posting from work? -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-11 06:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lfm9ji$k0g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1438 |
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:25:13 +0000, Tim Streater wrote: > <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote: >> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443 >> seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a >> university). > > What are you doing posting from work? I'm not sure if this is a serious question... I teach philosophy, mathematics and information systems. It is by no means a 9-to-5 job. I don't make a distinction between work time and free time. I have been correcting mid-term exams last weekend at home. I write my course material and do my research during the evening/night. Except when I am teaching a class or helping students or attending a meeting, nobody cares where I am or how I organize my time. Nowhere in my contract is mentioned how many hours I have to work, there even is no job description beyond "academic personnel". I have honestly no clue how many days of holiday I should have during a year. The past 4 years I have been teaching summer schools (I really loved doing that), this year I will have the first summer vacation since 2009. I do a lot of things for my university for which I am not paid (for example: system administration of our faculty's student grading system and training my colleagues on how to use it, or organizing evening debates for the alumni club), because it is a lot more than just a job to me: it is my life and my passion. I don't consider the university as my employer but as the community I belong to since I was a student. I am still involved in things I did here as a volunteer during my studies and I don't ask myself if that is part of my job or rather a hobby. When I decided that I wanted to spend a part of my time at the philosophy department or that I need to work for a month with a team of mathematicians in another country, I just informed my dean about that. No questions were asked, because he knows that I do my job. So if I want to post on usenet or hack away on a computer game in the office I can just do that.
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