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  motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-23 12:26 +0000
    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-23 10:11 -0500
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-23 16:13 +0000
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-06-23 19:34 +0100
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-23 22:09 +0000
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-06-23 19:49 +0100
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-23 19:38 +0000
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-24 03:23 -0500
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-06-24 21:08 +0100
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> - 2014-06-23 20:00 +0100
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2014-06-24 21:35 +0200
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> - 2014-06-24 21:46 +0100
            Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-24 22:06 +0000
              Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> - 2014-06-24 23:24 +0100
                Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-24 23:58 +0000
                  Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Dario Niedermann <dnied@tiscali.it> - 2014-06-25 12:03 +0200
                    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-25 10:19 +0000
                      Buzzfeed Cookie Monster (was Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-25 15:16 +0000
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-25 06:17 -0500
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-25 14:38 +0300
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> - 2014-06-25 21:03 +0100
    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-06-23 17:21 -0300
    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-23 22:22 +0200
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-24 08:22 +1000
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-27 13:44 +0200
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-28 09:58 +1000
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2014-06-23 23:03 +0000
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2014-06-24 09:59 -0400
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-24 15:12 +0000
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-24 17:50 +0000
            Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2014-06-24 22:52 -0400
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2014-06-24 21:37 +0200
            Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-24 16:08 -0500
              Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-27 13:47 +0200
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-25 05:37 +0000
            Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2014-06-25 08:05 -0400
              Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-25 12:24 +0000
                Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2014-06-25 09:27 -0400
                  Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-25 16:53 +0300
                  Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-25 15:36 +0000
                Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-27 13:59 +0200
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Ed Mullen <ejEVOMER@edmullen.net> - 2014-06-25 10:49 -0400
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Ed Mullen <ejEVOMER@edmullen.net> - 2014-06-23 21:03 -0400
    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-24 16:12 +0100
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2014-06-24 11:23 -0400
    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-25 14:28 +0100
    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-25 15:42 +0000
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-25 12:06 -0400
        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-26 23:44 +0000
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-26 20:01 -0700
          Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-27 12:07 -0400
            Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-27 23:07 +0000
              Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Ed Mullen <ejEVOMER@edmullen.net> - 2014-06-28 19:14 -0400
                Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> - 2014-07-01 20:43 +0000
                  Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-07-15 14:45 +0100
            Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-06-28 20:44 +0000
      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-26 07:14 +0000

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#3905

On 2014-06-25, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:05:03 -0400
> Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> wrote:
> ... and would like the chance to play with XML/XSLT again.
>
>
> Boy, that's something you don't hear people saying very often :)

The word that sprang to mind here was "masochist".

Back in 2008/9, seeking to widen my skillset I bought a book on XSLT and
the one I chose covered XSLT 2.

I was puzzled that none of the software I had at the time could understand
the "2" flavour, and it seems that not much has changed since:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSLT#History>

"The most recent version is XSLT 2.0,[11] developed under the editorship
of Michael Kay. It reached recommendation status in January 2007.[12] As
of 2010, however, XSLT 1.0[13] is still widely used, since 2.0 is not
supported natively in web browsers or for environments like LAMP."

-- 
You can't look at a glass as half full or half empty if it's overflowing.

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#3860

Rhino pounded out :
> On 2014-06-23 7:03 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:
>> In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, Paul Sture  <nospam@sture.ch>
>> wrote:
>>> My current grouse is the increasing number of websites who are loading
>>> ajax.googleapis.com.  It strikes me as not just a single point of
>>> failure
>>> (my internet connection comes and goes at the best of times) but a prime
>>> target for a MITM attack via DNS poisoning/kidnapping.
>>
>> Today, at arstechnica:
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/syrian-electronic-army-targets-reuters-again-but-ad-network-provided-the-leak/
>>
>>
>> The final two paragraphs of the article is most pertinant here:
>>
>>       "By compromising Taboola, the value of the compromise is
>>       significantly higher than just compromising Reuters," Jacobs wrote.
>>       "Taboola has 350 million unique users and has partnerships with the
>>       world's biggest news sites including Yahoo!, the BBC, FoxNews, the
>>       New York Times... Any of Taboola's clients can be compromised
>>       anytime now."
>>
>>       Jacobs reminds us that the security of any site using third-party
>>       analytics or advertising networks is simply reliant on "the weakest
>>       of those," and he reports that Reuters employs 30-plus such
>>       services. For protection, Jacobs recommends that users block
>>       advertising and analytics websites with browser extensions (he
>>       recommends Disconnect) and that sysadmins both minimize third-party
>>       services and enable two-factor authentication as a direct
>>       anti-phishing measure.
>>
>> Off-hand, I'd bet against a lot of companies falling to hacker
>> compromise before Google falls, but that still doesn't protect against
>> all attacks. If you wanted to reach the most machines with a single
>> DNS change, www.google-analytics.com would be a good target.
>>
>> Elijah
>> ------
>> why do so many people want google to know how much traffic they get?
>>
>>
> I don't think anyone particularly wants Google to know how much traffic
> they get; I think site owners just want something that THEY can use to
> determine what traffic they are getting.
>
> What tools would you suggest for people who want to know about their
> traffic that doesn't give the information to anyone but the webmaster
> for the site?
>

My hosting company has a wide variety of site reports available for 
free.  I would think that most others do too.

-- 
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Is it my imagination, or do buffalo wings taste like chicken?

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#3808

Paul Sture pounded out :
> On 2014-06-23, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with a 40
>> + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly interesting, but
>> someone linked to this website, which I find pretty funny and well-done:
>>
>> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>
> Except he spoils it a bit by using JavaSCript to call Google Analytics. I
> have no idea how large that code is, but...

Yeah, but examine the source ... he kinda apologies for it.  :-D




-- 
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Oooo, baby, it's a big old goofy world. - John Prine

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#3813

RS Wood wrote:
> There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with a 40
> + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly interesting, but
> someone linked to this website, which I find pretty funny and well-done:
>
> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

The word "skeuomorphic" was new to me.  It's always nice to be 
introduced to a new word.

>
> As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup, I'm all
> for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever did
> motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.  Point of
> that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better focus on the least
> common denominator and allow intermediary systems to be replaced or
> modified as the system ages.
>
>
>


-- 
[Dancing is] a perpendicular expression of a horizontal desire.
           G.B. Shaw in /New Statesman/, 23 March 1962

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#3815

On 2014-06-24 11:12 AM, Peter Percival wrote:
> --
> [Dancing is] a perpendicular expression of a horizontal desire.
>            G.B. Shaw in /New Statesman/, 23 March 1962

I like your sig. It reminds me of something a woman on my floor in 
residence said to us after a big party the night before. A young man had 
taken an interest in her and danced with her repeatedly, then told her:

"You dance divinely in the vertical position! Would you be interested in 
trying it in the horizontal position?"

That was definitely one of the most elegant pickup lines I've ever heard 
of ;-)

-- 
Rhino

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#3856

On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:26:06 +0000, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
wrote:

>There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with a 40
>+ year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly interesting, but
>someone linked to this website, which I find pretty funny and well-done:
>
>http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>

 I like the tone of of that page but it had a certain familiarity I'd
seen elsewhere which I couldn't quite put my finger on until I
remembered the b3ta website, in particular, this seems to encapsulate
the author's feelings:

<http://www2.b3ta.com/fish/>

Then, staying on topic for comp.misc, here's a bit of nostalgic
indulgance for those of a certain age - careful, if you've never seen
it before, you might land up shedding tears of regret and nostalgia,
so probably best viewed without any heartless witnesses to hand.

<http://www2.b3ta.com/heyhey16k/>
-- 
J B Good

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#3863

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote

> There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with a 40
> + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly interesting, but
> someone linked to this website, which I find pretty funny and well-done:
> 
> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
> 
> As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup, I'm all
> for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever did
> motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.  Point of
> that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better focus on the least
> common denominator and allow intermediary systems to be replaced or
> modified as the system ages.
> 
> 
> 

Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995) because I 
thought he might want to see what computers looked like back then.  Of 
course, he then had to go and see what version HTML was at the time, and 
what elements were available.  I'm proud of him.

He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing I knew it 
was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the page, dismiss the 
foul language, and learn from what the author says.

-- 
Adrienne Boswell
Please respond to the group so others can share

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#3865

In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
 Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
> 
> > There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with a 40
> > + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly interesting, but
> > someone linked to this website, which I find pretty funny and well-done:
> > 
> > http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
> > 
> > As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup, I'm all
> > for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever did
> > motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.  Point of
> > that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better focus on the least
> > common denominator and allow intermediary systems to be replaced or
> > modified as the system ages.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995) because I 
> thought he might want to see what computers looked like back then.  Of 
> course, he then had to go and see what version HTML was at the time, and 
> what elements were available.  I'm proud of him.
> 
> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing I knew it 
> was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the page, dismiss the 
> foul language, and learn from what the author says.

Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to use an 
Apple ][?

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#3890

Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote

> In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>  Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
>> 
>> > There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with
>> > a 40 + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly
>> > interesting, but someone linked to this website, which I find
>> > pretty funny and well-done: 
>> > 
>> > http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>> > 
>> > As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup, I'm
>> > all for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever did
>> > motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.  Point
>> > of that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better focus on
>> > the least common denominator and allow intermediary systems to be
>> > replaced or modified as the system ages.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
>> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995)
>> because I thought he might want to see what computers looked like
>> back then.  Of course, he then had to go and see what version HTML
>> was at the time, and what elements were available.  I'm proud of him.
>> 
>> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing I
>> knew it was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the page,
>> dismiss the foul language, and learn from what the author says.
> 
> Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to use
> an Apple ][?
> 

Are you kidding me?  I think my son can use any kind of computer he can 
get his hands on.  He has a Windows XP laptop at home, and Apple at 
school in the computer lab (although it's one of the newer ones).  They 
also have a Chromebook at school for the class, and he has helped the 
other kids, and the teacher, use it.  He grabbed my friend's windows 
phone when she was having trouble with it, and never having used one 
before, was able to fix her problem, and then show her how to use it.  We 
also have a Nook HD from Barnes and Noble that he uses all the time. Even 
my ancient phone, when I was trying to get it to do something that it is 
just too stupid to do, he tried to figure out a way.

-- 
Adrienne Boswell
Please respond to the group so others can share.
 

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#3891

On 2014-06-26 23:44:47 +0000, Adrienne Boswell said:

> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
> 
>> In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>> Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
>>> 
>>>> There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with
>>>> a 40 + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly
>>>> interesting, but someone linked to this website, which I find
>>>> pretty funny and well-done:
>>>> 
>>>> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>>>> 
>>>> As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup, I'm
>>>> all for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever did
>>>> motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.  Point
>>>> of that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better focus on
>>>> the least common denominator and allow intermediary systems to be
>>>> replaced or modified as the system ages.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995)
>>> because I thought he might want to see what computers looked like
>>> back then.  Of course, he then had to go and see what version HTML
>>> was at the time, and what elements were available.  I'm proud of him.
>>> 
>>> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing I
>>> knew it was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the page,
>>> dismiss the foul language, and learn from what the author says.
>> 
>> Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to use
>> an Apple ][?
>> 
> 
> Are you kidding me?  I think my son can use any kind of computer he can
> get his hands on.  He has a Windows XP laptop at home, and Apple at
> school in the computer lab (although it's one of the newer ones).  They
> also have a Chromebook at school for the class, and he has helped the
> other kids, and the teacher, use it.  He grabbed my friend's windows
> phone when she was having trouble with it, and never having used one
> before, was able to fix her problem, and then show her how to use it.  We
> also have a Nook HD from Barnes and Noble that he uses all the time. Even
> my ancient phone, when I was trying to get it to do something that it is
> just too stupid to do, he tried to figure out a way.

You're talking about computer systems made relatively recently.  The 
Apple ][ series is a whole different animal.

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#3917

In article <XnsA358AA572740Barbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
 Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
> 
> > In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
> >  Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
> >> 
> >> > There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design with
> >> > a 40 + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly
> >> > interesting, but someone linked to this website, which I find
> >> > pretty funny and well-done: 
> >> > 
> >> > http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
> >> > 
> >> > As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup, I'm
> >> > all for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever did
> >> > motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.  Point
> >> > of that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better focus on
> >> > the least common denominator and allow intermediary systems to be
> >> > replaced or modified as the system ages.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995)
> >> because I thought he might want to see what computers looked like
> >> back then.  Of course, he then had to go and see what version HTML
> >> was at the time, and what elements were available.  I'm proud of him.
> >> 
> >> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing I
> >> knew it was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the page,
> >> dismiss the foul language, and learn from what the author says.
> > 
> > Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to use
> > an Apple ][?
> > 
> 
> Are you kidding me?  I think my son can use any kind of computer he can 
> get his hands on.  He has a Windows XP laptop at home, and Apple at 
> school in the computer lab (although it's one of the newer ones).  They 
> also have a Chromebook at school for the class, and he has helped the 
> other kids, and the teacher, use it.  He grabbed my friend's windows 
> phone when she was having trouble with it, and never having used one 
> before, was able to fix her problem, and then show her how to use it.  We 
> also have a Nook HD from Barnes and Noble that he uses all the time. Even 
> my ancient phone, when I was trying to get it to do something that it is 
> just too stupid to do, he tried to figure out a way.

They all use the same basic GUI model. I think he might have a little 
trouble figuring out a computer that requires you to load the OS in from 
a floppy disk, and type all the commands from memory instead of clicking 
on them.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#3918

Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote

> In article <XnsA358AA572740Barbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>  Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
>> 
>> > In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>> >  Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
>> >> 
>> >> > There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design
>> >> > with a 40 + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly
>> >> > interesting, but someone linked to this website, which I find
>> >> > pretty funny and well-done: 
>> >> > 
>> >> > http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>> >> > 
>> >> > As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup,
>> >> > I'm all for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever
>> >> > did motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement. 
>> >> > Point of that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better
>> >> > focus on the least common denominator and allow intermediary
>> >> > systems to be replaced or modified as the system ages.
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995)
>> >> because I thought he might want to see what computers looked like
>> >> back then.  Of course, he then had to go and see what version HTML
>> >> was at the time, and what elements were available.  I'm proud of
>> >> him. 
>> >> 
>> >> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing
>> >> I knew it was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the
>> >> page, dismiss the foul language, and learn from what the author
>> >> says. 
>> > 
>> > Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to
>> > use an Apple ][?
>> > 
>> 
>> Are you kidding me?  I think my son can use any kind of computer he
>> can get his hands on.  He has a Windows XP laptop at home, and Apple
>> at school in the computer lab (although it's one of the newer ones). 
>> They also have a Chromebook at school for the class, and he has
>> helped the other kids, and the teacher, use it.  He grabbed my
>> friend's windows phone when she was having trouble with it, and never
>> having used one before, was able to fix her problem, and then show
>> her how to use it.  We also have a Nook HD from Barnes and Noble that
>> he uses all the time. Even my ancient phone, when I was trying to get
>> it to do something that it is just too stupid to do, he tried to
>> figure out a way. 
> 
> They all use the same basic GUI model. I think he might have a little 
> trouble figuring out a computer that requires you to load the OS in
> from a floppy disk, and type all the commands from memory instead of
> clicking on them.
> 

Nope, he's seen me go on the command line too many times.  I was kind of 
hoping he wouldn't figure that one out, but now he seems to be googling 
for DOS command lines.

I love him, he's a pretty smart kid.

-- 
Adrienne Boswell
Please respond to the group so others can share

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#3920

Adrienne Boswell pounded out :
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
>
>> In article <XnsA358AA572740Barbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>>   Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
>>>
>>>> In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>>>>   Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design
>>>>>> with a 40 + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly
>>>>>> interesting, but someone linked to this website, which I find
>>>>>> pretty funny and well-done:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup,
>>>>>> I'm all for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever
>>>>>> did motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.
>>>>>> Point of that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better
>>>>>> focus on the least common denominator and allow intermediary
>>>>>> systems to be replaced or modified as the system ages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995)
>>>>> because I thought he might want to see what computers looked like
>>>>> back then.  Of course, he then had to go and see what version HTML
>>>>> was at the time, and what elements were available.  I'm proud of
>>>>> him.
>>>>>
>>>>> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing
>>>>> I knew it was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the
>>>>> page, dismiss the foul language, and learn from what the author
>>>>> says.
>>>>
>>>> Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to
>>>> use an Apple ][?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you kidding me?  I think my son can use any kind of computer he
>>> can get his hands on.  He has a Windows XP laptop at home, and Apple
>>> at school in the computer lab (although it's one of the newer ones).
>>> They also have a Chromebook at school for the class, and he has
>>> helped the other kids, and the teacher, use it.  He grabbed my
>>> friend's windows phone when she was having trouble with it, and never
>>> having used one before, was able to fix her problem, and then show
>>> her how to use it.  We also have a Nook HD from Barnes and Noble that
>>> he uses all the time. Even my ancient phone, when I was trying to get
>>> it to do something that it is just too stupid to do, he tried to
>>> figure out a way.
>>
>> They all use the same basic GUI model. I think he might have a little
>> trouble figuring out a computer that requires you to load the OS in
>> from a floppy disk, and type all the commands from memory instead of
>> clicking on them.
>>
>
> Nope, he's seen me go on the command line too many times.  I was kind of
> hoping he wouldn't figure that one out, but now he seems to be googling
> for DOS command lines.
>
> I love him, he's a pretty smart kid.
>

I can't wait to see you post his first .bat efforts!  :-D

Hopefully he won't destroy anything!

You do have robust backups, right?


-- 
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.

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#3950

Ed Mullen <ejEVOMER@edmullen.net> wrote

> Adrienne Boswell pounded out :
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
>>
>>> In article <XnsA358AA572740Barbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>>>   Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>>>>>   Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design
>>>>>>> with a 40 + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly
>>>>>>> interesting, but someone linked to this website, which I find
>>>>>>> pretty funny and well-done:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup,
>>>>>>> I'm all for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever
>>>>>>> did motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.
>>>>>>> Point of that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better
>>>>>>> focus on the least common denominator and allow intermediary
>>>>>>> systems to be replaced or modified as the system ages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995)
>>>>>> because I thought he might want to see what computers looked like
>>>>>> back then.  Of course, he then had to go and see what version HTML
>>>>>> was at the time, and what elements were available.  I'm proud of
>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing
>>>>>> I knew it was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the
>>>>>> page, dismiss the foul language, and learn from what the author
>>>>>> says.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to
>>>>> use an Apple ][?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you kidding me?  I think my son can use any kind of computer he
>>>> can get his hands on.  He has a Windows XP laptop at home, and Apple
>>>> at school in the computer lab (although it's one of the newer ones).
>>>> They also have a Chromebook at school for the class, and he has
>>>> helped the other kids, and the teacher, use it.  He grabbed my
>>>> friend's windows phone when she was having trouble with it, and 
never
>>>> having used one before, was able to fix her problem, and then show
>>>> her how to use it.  We also have a Nook HD from Barnes and Noble 
that
>>>> he uses all the time. Even my ancient phone, when I was trying to 
get
>>>> it to do something that it is just too stupid to do, he tried to
>>>> figure out a way.
>>>
>>> They all use the same basic GUI model. I think he might have a little
>>> trouble figuring out a computer that requires you to load the OS in
>>> from a floppy disk, and type all the commands from memory instead of
>>> clicking on them.
>>>
>>
>> Nope, he's seen me go on the command line too many times.  I was kind 
of
>> hoping he wouldn't figure that one out, but now he seems to be 
googling
>> for DOS command lines.
>>
>> I love him, he's a pretty smart kid.
>>
> 
> I can't wait to see you post his first .bat efforts!  :-D
> 
> Hopefully he won't destroy anything!
> 
> You do have robust backups, right?
> 
> 

I was very proud of him yesterday. I got a phone call from a friend, who 
with their repaired computer, was having problems watching some Youtube 
videos.  I really didn't have time to walk her through debugging, so I 
handed the phone to my son, and he took care of her.  He told her if 
Chrome wasn't working correctly, to try Firefox, and it worked just fine.   
For his efforts, he earned a treat at the corner store.

He has his own laptop, and doesn't access mine except to watch something 
on Netflix (if I'm reading on the Nook). I haven't taught him about .bat 
files, I think that would be good next lesson.

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#4022

Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> writes:
<snip>
> He has his own laptop, and doesn't access mine except to watch something 
> on Netflix (if I'm reading on the Nook). I haven't taught him about .bat 
> files, I think that would be good next lesson.

It sound like you might want to consider Linux (other open OSes are
available) for him to investigate.  I don't want to start a this OS
vs. that OS war, but I think you can do more, and get there quicker,
with a better shell than command.com.  (So 'bash' on Windows would also
work, but I think there is more you can easily find out about on an open
system.)

-- 
Ben.

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#3919

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:07:40 -0400, Barry Margolin wrote:

> In article <XnsA358AA572740Barbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>  Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote
>> 
>> > In article <XnsA3575883F3BCDarbpenyahoocom@78.46.70.116>,
>> >  Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote
>> >> 
>> >> > There was a discussion on Soylentnews.com about web app design
>> >> > with a 40 + year life expectancy.  That discussion wasn't overly
>> >> > interesting, but someone linked to this website, which I find
>> >> > pretty funny and well-done:
>> >> > 
>> >> > http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
>> >> > 
>> >> > As the guy who posted something about gopher on this newsgroup,
>> >> > I'm all for simple websites and content before flash.  Whoever did
>> >> > motherfuckingwebsite.com seems to be in perfect agreement.  Point
>> >> > of that site and the discussion at Soy is: you'd better focus on
>> >> > the least common denominator and allow intermediary systems to be
>> >> > replaced or modified as the system ages.
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> Coincidentally, my 10 year old son and I watched The Net (1995)
>> >> because I thought he might want to see what computers looked like
>> >> back then.  Of course, he then had to go and see what version HTML
>> >> was at the time, and what elements were available.  I'm proud of
>> >> him.
>> >> 
>> >> He also looked over my shoulder, saw this url, and the next thing I
>> >> knew it was popping up in his browser.  I told him to read the page,
>> >> dismiss the foul language, and learn from what the author says.
>> > 
>> > Has he seen the video of modern kids trying to figure out how to use
>> > an Apple ][?
>> > 
>> > 
>> Are you kidding me?  I think my son can use any kind of computer he can
>> get his hands on.  He has a Windows XP laptop at home, and Apple at
>> school in the computer lab (although it's one of the newer ones).  They
>> also have a Chromebook at school for the class, and he has helped the
>> other kids, and the teacher, use it.  He grabbed my friend's windows
>> phone when she was having trouble with it, and never having used one
>> before, was able to fix her problem, and then show her how to use it. 
>> We also have a Nook HD from Barnes and Noble that he uses all the time.
>> Even my ancient phone, when I was trying to get it to do something that
>> it is just too stupid to do, he tried to figure out a way.
> 
> They all use the same basic GUI model. I think he might have a little
> trouble figuring out a computer that requires you to load the OS in from
> a floppy disk, and type all the commands from memory instead of clicking
> on them.

Yes, I think that ought to say 'any kind of modern computer'. Give him 
UNIX v6 and he might have trouble.



-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
 http://www.mirrorservice.org

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#3877

On 2014-06-25 15:42:09 +0000, Adrienne Boswell said:
>   I told him to read the page, dismiss the
> foul language, and learn from what the author says.

Smart move!  And if he's like most ten year olds in public schools, 
there's a better than average chance he has already learned those foul 
words anyway.  That's my recollection of being ten, anyway.

I curse a lot when I drive, and my wife scolds me, "your daughter is in 
the back of the car, listening!"

I respond, "Yeah, well someday when some d****b*** decides to make a 
right-hand turn from the left-hand lane in front of her with no signal, 
I want her to f***ing know what to say about it!  :)

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