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🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter

Started byLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2026-02-20 06:37 +0000
Last post2026-03-08 00:40 +0100
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  🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 06:37 +0000
    Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-02-20 16:17 +0100
      Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 23:19 +0000
    Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-24 03:48 +0000
      Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter Vanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net> - 2026-02-27 03:22 +0100
        Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-27 03:01 +0000
          Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-27 08:28 +0000
          Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-02-27 18:51 -0500
          Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter Vanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net> - 2026-03-08 00:40 +0100

#28241 — 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-02-20 06:37 +0000
Subject🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter
Message-ID<10n8vg6$5ps9$1@dont-email.me>
So, our 🇳🇿 Parliament joins the growing list of groups abandoning Elon
Musk’s tainted social-media platform
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360941546/nz-parliament-announces-it-will-no-longer-post-x>.

But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy. Perhaps he doesn’t appreciate
the seriousness of the material that X is tolerating on its feeds
these days. (Not wanting to be associated with potential criminal
activity is called “virtue signalling” now ...)

There are other platforms that could be worth looking at. For example,
Mastdodon and other nodes of the Fediverse, and places like Bluesky.

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#28243

FromMarco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
Date2026-02-20 16:17 +0100
Message-ID<20260220161727.7f71497a@ryz.dorfdsl.de>
In reply to#28241
On 20.02.2026 06:37 Uhr Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy. Perhaps he doesn’t appreciate
> the seriousness of the material that X is tolerating on its feeds
> these days. (Not wanting to be associated with potential criminal
> activity is called “virtue signalling” now ...)

Then they should leave the internet at all, as there are always people
doing crimes there.

> There are other platforms that could be worth looking at. For example,
> Mastdodon and other nodes of the Fediverse, and places like Bluesky.

I assume this will not work, as too less people are using those
services.

-- 
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1771565878muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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#28245

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-02-20 23:19 +0000
Message-ID<10naq5m$q4tf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#28243
On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 16:17:27 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 20.02.2026 06:37 Uhr Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy. Perhaps he doesn’t appreciate
>> the seriousness of the material that X is tolerating on its feeds
>> these days. (Not wanting to be associated with potential criminal
>> activity is called “virtue signalling” now ...)
>
> Then they should leave the internet at all, as there are always
> people doing crimes there.

Strawman?

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#28254

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-02-24 03:48 +0000
Message-ID<10nj71k$3ia0b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#28241
On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 06:37:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

> So, our 🇳🇿 Parliament joins the growing list of groups abandoning Elon
> Musk’s tainted social-media platform
> <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360941546/nz-parliament-announces-it-will-no-longer-post-x>.
>
> But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy.

Followup article
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360942425/parliaments-exit-caused-stir-most-government-departments-have-already-left>
finds a bunch of other 🇳🇿 Government agencies gave up on the Muskian
cesspit a long time ago. Peters -- both his Foreign Ministry and his
NZ First Party -- are still among the regular users, so perhaps it’s
not surprising he’s not happy about others leaving him behind.

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#28262 — Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter

FromVanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net>
Date2026-02-27 03:22 +0100
SubjectRe: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter
Message-ID<MPG.440b1e35b4979949989682@news.tweaknews.eu>
In reply to#28254
In article <10nj71k$3ia0b$1@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid says...
> 
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 06:37:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:
> 
> > So, our ?? Parliament joins the growing list of groups abandoning Elon
> > Musk?s tainted social-media platform
> > <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360941546/nz-parliament-announces-it-will-no-longer-post-x>.
> >
> > But our Foreign Minister isn?t happy.
> 
> Followup article
> <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360942425/parliaments-exit-caused-stir-most-government-departments-have-already-left>
> finds a bunch of other ?? Government agencies gave up on the Muskian
> cesspit a long time ago. Peters -- both his Foreign Ministry and his
> NZ First Party -- are still among the regular users, so perhaps it?s
> not surprising he?s not happy about others leaving him behind.

There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at all, 
these are private companies like newspapers and tv channels were in the 
past, and public legacy media (as it is called now) in countries with no 
public oversight was often used for propaganda purposes, so it was of  
little help to citizens or taxpayers.

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#28263

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-02-27 03:01 +0000
Message-ID<10nr1dr$268jc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#28262
On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote:

> There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at
> all ...

Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected
representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what
they’re doing in our name.

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#28264

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-02-27 08:28 +0000
Message-ID<wwvbjha615q.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#28263
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote:
>> There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at
>> all ...
>
> Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected
> representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what
> they’re doing in our name.

That can be achieved without using social media platforms.  Mailing
lists still work, for example.

(I don’t object to governments having social media accounts in
principle, but it’s absolutely not the only option, and some of the
available choices are sufficiently awful that a presence on them carries
a reputational risk.)

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#28266

Fromkludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Date2026-02-27 18:51 -0500
Message-ID<10ntalf$oou$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#28263
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote:
>
>> There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at
>> all ...
>
>Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected
>representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what
>theyre doing in our name.

Two different things: the government itself and elected representatives.
I'm happy for my senator or mayor to have a social media account to talk
about what they are doing with my tax money.  I'm not sure I am happy about 
individual government agencies to be promoting themselves via social media.

On the gripping hand it's nice to see things like solar weather reports
from NOAA and announcements about NASA launches coming out via social media
since that's where people look today.
--scott


-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#28284 — Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter

FromVanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net>
Date2026-03-08 00:40 +0100
SubjectRe: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter
Message-ID<MPG.4416d5d77ee5158b989683@news.tweaknews.eu>
In reply to#28263
In article <10nr1dr$268jc$1@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid says...
> 
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote:
> 
> > There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at
> > all ...
> 
> Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected
> representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what
> they?re doing in our name.

I certainly live in a european democracy, but rest assured Musk's X 
manipulated algorithm is not.

We need more neutral information spaces. I suscribe to the EFF 
recommendations.

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