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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-02-20 06:37 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-03-08 00:40 +0100 |
| Articles | 9 — 5 participants |
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🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 06:37 +0000
Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-02-20 16:17 +0100
Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 23:19 +0000
Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-24 03:48 +0000
Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter Vanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net> - 2026-02-27 03:22 +0100
Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-27 03:01 +0000
Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-27 08:28 +0000
Re: 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-02-27 18:51 -0500
Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter Vanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net> - 2026-03-08 00:40 +0100
| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-02-20 06:37 +0000 |
| Subject | 🇳🇿 Parliament Leaves Xwitter |
| Message-ID | <10n8vg6$5ps9$1@dont-email.me> |
So, our 🇳🇿 Parliament joins the growing list of groups abandoning Elon Musk’s tainted social-media platform <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360941546/nz-parliament-announces-it-will-no-longer-post-x>. But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy. Perhaps he doesn’t appreciate the seriousness of the material that X is tolerating on its feeds these days. (Not wanting to be associated with potential criminal activity is called “virtue signalling” now ...) There are other platforms that could be worth looking at. For example, Mastdodon and other nodes of the Fediverse, and places like Bluesky.
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| From | Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> |
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| Date | 2026-02-20 16:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20260220161727.7f71497a@ryz.dorfdsl.de> |
| In reply to | #28241 |
On 20.02.2026 06:37 Uhr Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy. Perhaps he doesn’t appreciate > the seriousness of the material that X is tolerating on its feeds > these days. (Not wanting to be associated with potential criminal > activity is called “virtue signalling” now ...) Then they should leave the internet at all, as there are always people doing crimes there. > There are other platforms that could be worth looking at. For example, > Mastdodon and other nodes of the Fediverse, and places like Bluesky. I assume this will not work, as too less people are using those services. -- kind regards Marco Send spam to 1771565878muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-02-20 23:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10naq5m$q4tf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28243 |
On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 16:17:27 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > On 20.02.2026 06:37 Uhr Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy. Perhaps he doesn’t appreciate >> the seriousness of the material that X is tolerating on its feeds >> these days. (Not wanting to be associated with potential criminal >> activity is called “virtue signalling” now ...) > > Then they should leave the internet at all, as there are always > people doing crimes there. Strawman?
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-02-24 03:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10nj71k$3ia0b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28241 |
On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 06:37:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote: > So, our 🇳🇿 Parliament joins the growing list of groups abandoning Elon > Musk’s tainted social-media platform > <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360941546/nz-parliament-announces-it-will-no-longer-post-x>. > > But our Foreign Minister isn’t happy. Followup article <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360942425/parliaments-exit-caused-stir-most-government-departments-have-already-left> finds a bunch of other 🇳🇿 Government agencies gave up on the Muskian cesspit a long time ago. Peters -- both his Foreign Ministry and his NZ First Party -- are still among the regular users, so perhaps it’s not surprising he’s not happy about others leaving him behind.
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| From | Vanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net> |
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| Date | 2026-02-27 03:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter |
| Message-ID | <MPG.440b1e35b4979949989682@news.tweaknews.eu> |
| In reply to | #28254 |
In article <10nj71k$3ia0b$1@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid says... > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 06:37:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote: > > > So, our ?? Parliament joins the growing list of groups abandoning Elon > > Musk?s tainted social-media platform > > <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360941546/nz-parliament-announces-it-will-no-longer-post-x>. > > > > But our Foreign Minister isn?t happy. > > Followup article > <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360942425/parliaments-exit-caused-stir-most-government-departments-have-already-left> > finds a bunch of other ?? Government agencies gave up on the Muskian > cesspit a long time ago. Peters -- both his Foreign Ministry and his > NZ First Party -- are still among the regular users, so perhaps it?s > not surprising he?s not happy about others leaving him behind. There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at all, these are private companies like newspapers and tv channels were in the past, and public legacy media (as it is called now) in countries with no public oversight was often used for propaganda purposes, so it was of little help to citizens or taxpayers.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-02-27 03:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10nr1dr$268jc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28262 |
On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote: > There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at > all ... Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what they’re doing in our name.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-02-27 08:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <wwvbjha615q.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #28263 |
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: > On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote: >> There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at >> all ... > > Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected > representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what > they’re doing in our name. That can be achieved without using social media platforms. Mailing lists still work, for example. (I don’t object to governments having social media accounts in principle, but it’s absolutely not the only option, and some of the available choices are sufficiently awful that a presence on them carries a reputational risk.) -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) |
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| Date | 2026-02-27 18:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10ntalf$oou$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #28263 |
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote: > >> There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at >> all ... > >Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected >representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what >theyre doing in our name. Two different things: the government itself and elected representatives. I'm happy for my senator or mayor to have a social media account to talk about what they are doing with my tax money. I'm not sure I am happy about individual government agencies to be promoting themselves via social media. On the gripping hand it's nice to see things like solar weather reports from NOAA and announcements about NASA launches coming out via social media since that's where people look today. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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| From | Vanadium <administrator@pyrogen.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-08 00:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: ?? Parliament Leaves Xwitter |
| Message-ID | <MPG.4416d5d77ee5158b989683@news.tweaknews.eu> |
| In reply to | #28263 |
In article <10nr1dr$268jc$1@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid says... > > On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 03:22:06 +0100, Vanadium wrote: > > > There is no reason goverments should have social media acounts at > > all ... > > Those of us who live in democracies do prefer our elected > representatives to keep us in the loop from time to time over what > they?re doing in our name. I certainly live in a european democracy, but rest assured Musk's X manipulated algorithm is not. We need more neutral information spaces. I suscribe to the EFF recommendations.
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