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  Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-17 12:39 +0000
    Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-17 15:54 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-17 16:10 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? "Julio Di Egidio" <julio@diegidio.name> - 2014-03-17 21:47 +0000
        Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-18 09:10 +0000
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015.  Ready? "Julio Di Egidio" <julio@diegidio.name> - 2014-03-18 11:55 +0000
    Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-17 22:23 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? "John" <j@j.j> - 2014-03-18 09:34 -0700
        Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-18 17:48 +0000
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-18 18:28 +0000
            Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-18 19:27 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-18 22:03 +0000
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-18 22:26 +0000
                  Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 14:12 +0100
                    Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-03-19 12:18 -0500
                      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? "John" <j@j.j> - 2014-03-19 13:26 -0700
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 01:46 +0100
          Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 12:39 +0000
            Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-21 13:27 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-21 16:12 +0100
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 15:32 +0000
            Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-21 16:07 +0100
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-21 15:18 +0000
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-21 23:26 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-21 18:15 +0000
              Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 09:51 -0400
                Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-03-22 13:54 +0000
                  Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-22 15:07 +0000
        Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-18 19:14 +0000
      Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-19 08:08 +0000

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#1718 — Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

From the «Got Root?» department:
Title: The Internet Is About to Take Its Next Giant Evolutionary Leap
Author: Sam Gustin
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:47:34 -0400
Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~3/yMncl2Uam-c/
Podcast Download URL: http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1bf50c917fee8778c289fc16128f5baf?s=96&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96

The U.S. plan to relinquish stewardship of key technical functions that
ensure the Internet runs properly drew praise and criticism over the weekend.
If the process goes smoothly, it shouldn’t affect the day-to-day Internet
experience for users, but the shift, which was announced[1] Friday by U.S.
officials, represents an important development in the evolution of the
Internet. MoreHere's An Updated Tally Of All The People Who Have Ever Died
From A Marijuana Overdose Huffington Post[2]These Disturbing Fast Food Truths
Will Make You Reconsider Your Lunch Huffington Post[3]Savannah Guthrie Is
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top players by regional Sports Illustrated[5]'Walking Dead': They did WHAT?!
Entertainment Weekly[6]

Although the U.S. has long intended to give up its role overseeing the system
of managing Internet domain names, the proposed transition has already
attracted[7] critics who fear that the Internet’s free and open nature could
be jeopardized. At the same time, the plan has received positive feedback
from several major technology companies, including Google, AT&T and Verizon.
Popular Among Subscribers[image 9][8]

Make Fun Of Everything
[8]Subscribe[10]

The South’s Red-Hot Town
[11]

Obama’s Trauma Team
[12]

The origins of the Internet date back to the early 1960s, when the U.S.
government funded research that led to the development of “ARPANET,” which
was established by the Department of Defense’s Advanced Research Projects
Agency (DARPA). ARPANET was eventually connected to other government,
academic and research networks, forming a “network of networks” that would
ultimately become known as the Internet.

Since then, the U.S. government has had an oversight role in the distribution
of numbers that make up Internet addresses, as well as the Domain Name System
(DNS) that translates those numerical addresses into recognizable Internet
names like time.com. For more than a decade, the non-profit Internet
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) has performed those
functions under a contract from the Department of Commerce’s National
Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA).

“The DNS is similar to a phone book, where if you know someone’s name, you
can find their number and place a call,” says Laura Denardis, a professor[13]
at American University and the author[14] of The Global War for Internet
Governance. “Most people take this for granted because they’re not aware of
the technical architecture behind the curtain that’s needed to keep the
Internet going.”

It remains unclear what kind of entity will assume stewardship of the
Internet DNS, but the U.S. has made clear that it will “not accept a proposal
that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an inter-governmental
organization solution.” That’s because the U.S. does not want any single
government or coalition of governments, like that represented by the United
Nations’ International Telecommunications Union (ITU), to exert undue
influence over Internet governance.

“We need to have some kind of centralized coordination of names and numbers,
because each name and number has to be globally unique,” DeNardis tells TIME.
“Someone has to keep track to make sure there’s not duplication of addresses.
The best case scenario is a balance of power in which multiple stakeholders
play a role.”

The U.S. has been under increasing pressure from other countries to
relinquish its stewardship of the Internet’s technical functions in the wake
of revelations about U.S. Internet surveillance supplied by former National
Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. “The Snowden disclosures served as
a lightning rod to focus attention on this issue,” says DeNardis, although
she was quick to point out that the U.S. role in the Internet DNS is separate
from NSA surveillance activities.

On a conference call Friday, ICANN Chief Executive Fadi Chehade downplayed
Snowden’s role, according[15] to Bloomberg. In truth, the U.S. never intended
for its Internet stewardship to go on indefinitely. As far back as 1997, the
U.S. made clear that its ultimate goal was to privatize the Internet’s
technical functions to support a “multistakeholder” model of governance. The
current U.S. contract expires on September 30, 2015, so the NTIA is asking
ICANN to bring together stakeholders from around the world to craft a
proposal for the next stage of Internet governance.

“The timing is right to start the transition process,” said Assistant
Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information Lawrence E.
Strickling. In a statement, NTIA said that it has “communicated” to ICANN
that the proposal must have “broad community support” and ensure the
“security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS” and maintain the
openness of the Internet as a global platform. Importantly, the U.S. will
retain responsibility for the .mil, .gov, and .edu top-level domains.

Predictably, the proposed transition has already begun to be politicized[16].
Following the announcement, Newt Gingrich, the Republican former House
Speaker, tweeted[17]: “Every American should worry about Obama giving up
control of the Internet to an undefined group. This is very, very dangerous.”
He added[18]: “What is the global internet community that Obama wants to turn
the internet over to? This risks foreign dictatorships defining the
internet.”

The proposed transition is also likely to be politicized at an international
level, says Lauren Weinstein, a veteran Internet policy expert[19]. “Most of
the issues involved in this area are primarily technical in nature,” says
Weinstein. “Unfortunately, in today’s international environment, there is a
real risk of this matter turning into a toxic global political football,
which would obviously not be the best situation for making rational decisions
about such complex matters.”

For now, the response from the U.S. private sector has been positive, and
several major technology companies praised the U.S. announcement. “The
internet was built to be borderless and this move toward a more
multistakeholder model of governance creates an opportunity to preserve its
security, stability and openness,” Vint Cerf, Google’s chief Internet
evangelist, said in a statement emailed to TIME.

Len Cali, AT&T’s senior vice president of global public policy, called[20]
the transition “an important step in the ongoing evolution of the global
Internet.” Verizon was similarly upbeat. “We applaud NTIA for recognizing the
global relevance of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) functions
and the current maturity of multi-stakeholder frameworks,” Craig Silliman,
Verizon’s senior vice president for public policy, said[21] in a statement.

DeNardis is optimistic that the transition will go smoothly, but points out
that there isn’t even a proposal on the table to replace the U.S. as steward
of the DNS. “I expect that everything will go well, but the Devil will be in
the details,” she says. “If everything goes smoothly, everyone should still
be able to watch Orange is the New Black on Netflix.”[image 22][image 23]

Links:
[1]: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions (link)
[2]: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/marijuana-overdose_n_4538580.html (link)
[3]: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/fast-food-truths_n_4296243.html (link)
[4]: http://feeds.people.com/~r/people/headlines/~3/_rcn4tAtPWg/0,,20797450,00.html (link)
[5]: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-college-basketball-mens-tournament/news/20140316/ncaa-tournament-regional-breakdowns-march-madness/?xid=si_topstories (link)
[6]: http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/03/16/walking-dead-the-grove/?xid=time-partner (link)
[7]: Although the U.S. has long intended to give up its role overseeing important technical aspects of the Internet, the proposed transition has already attracted critics who fear that the Internet's free and open nature could be jeopardized. At the same time, the plan has received positive feedback from major Internet service providers, including AT&T and Verizon, which both issued statements of support.  The (link)
[8]: http://time.com/22993/key-and-peele-make-fun-of-everything/?pcd=pw-pas (link)
[9]: http://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/ideascover.jpg?w=560 (image)
[10]: https://subscription.time.com/storefront/subscribe-to-time/link/1004870.html (link)
[11]: http://time.com/13819/the-souths-red-hot-town/?pcd=pw-pas (link)
[12]: http://time.com/10228/obamas-trauma-team/?pcd=pw-pas (link)
[13]: http://lauradenardis.org/ (link)
[14]: http://www.amazon.com/The-Global-War-Internet-Governance/dp/0300181353 (link)
[15]: On a conference call Friday, ICANN Chief Executive Fadi Chehade downplayed Snowden's role, according to Bloomberg. In truth, the U.S. never intended for its Internet stewardship to go on indefinitely. As far back as 1997, the U.S. made clear that the ultimate goal was to privatize the technical functions to support a "multistakeholder" model of Internet governance. The current U.S. contract expires on September 30, 2015, so the NTIA is asking ICANN to bring together stakeholders from around the world to craft a proposal for the next stage of Internet governance.  "The timing is right to start the transition process," said Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information Lawrence E. Strickling. In a statement, NTIA said that it has "communicated" to ICANN that the transition proposal must have "broad community support" and ensure the "security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS" and maintain the openness of the Internet as a global platform. Importantly, the U.S. will retain responsibility for the .mil, .gov, and .edu top-level domains. (link)
[16]: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/internet-transition-triggers-gop-backlash-104698.html (link)
[17]: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/444592735983390720 (link)
[18]: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/444608973455384576 (link)
[19]: http://www.vortex.com/lauren (link)
[20]: http://www.attpublicpolicy.com/international/the-continuing-evolution-of-the-global-internet/ (link)
[21]: http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/verizon-supports-global-multi-stakeholder-process-for-domain-names (link)
[22]: http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=time.com&blog=1359921&post=25931&subd=timedotcom&ref=&feed=1 (image)
[23]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~4/yMncl2Uam-c (image)

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#1731

On 2014-03-17, RS Wood wrote:
> From the «Got Root?» department:
> Title: The Internet Is About to Take Its Next Giant Evolutionary Leap
> Author: Sam Gustin
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:47:34 -0400
> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~3/yMncl2Uam-c/
> Podcast Download URL: http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1bf50c917fee8778c289fc16128f5baf?s=96&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96
>
> The U.S. plan to relinquish stewardship of key technical functions that
> ensure the Internet runs properly drew praise and criticism over the weekend.
> If the process goes smoothly, it shouldn’t affect the day-to-day Internet
> experience for users, but the shift, which was announced[1] Friday by U.S.
> officials, represents an important development in the evolution of the
> Internet. 
>
> Although the U.S. has long intended to give up its role overseeing the system
> of managing Internet domain names, the proposed transition has already
> attracted[7] critics who fear that the Internet’s free and open nature could
> be jeopardized. At the same time, the plan has received positive feedback
> from several major technology companies, including Google, AT&T and Verizon.
> Popular Among Subscribers[image 9][8]

So the US agency NTIA is asking ICANN to bring people together to
figure out who *ought to* control the root name servers for .com,
.net, and .org?

The idea sounds okay in theory, but after ICANN's circus act with
new gTLDs, I don't trust them to administer *anything*
internet-related.  I know the US government isn't a good steward for
the internet, but I've yet to see anyone who isn't much much
scarier.  Frankly, I don't want countries like China and Pakistan to
have any input at all.

Who else thinks the big companies mentioned are excited because they
think they can get more control over it?

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#1732

On 2014-03-17, Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> wrote:

[25 lines snipped]


> The idea sounds okay in theory, but after ICANN's circus act with
> new gTLDs, I don't trust them to administer *anything*
> internet-related.  I know the US government isn't a good steward for
> the internet, but I've yet to see anyone who isn't much much
> scarier.  Frankly, I don't want countries like China and Pakistan to
> have any input at all.
>
> Who else thinks the big companies mentioned are excited because they
> think they can get more control over it?

To paraphrase Churchill, ICANN was the worst way of administering the
Internet, apart from all the others.

Although it kind-of makes sense for the ITU to do it.


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#1746

"Randy Westlund" <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:lg75r7$sjs$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2014-03-17, RS Wood wrote:
>>
>> From the «Got Root?» department:
>> Title: The Internet Is About to Take Its Next Giant Evolutionary Leap
>> Author: Sam Gustin
>> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:47:34 -0400
>> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~3/yMncl2Uam-c/
>> Podcast Download URL: 
>> http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1bf50c917fee8778c289fc16128f5baf?s=96&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96
<snip>
>
> Frankly, I don't want countries like China and Pakistan to
> have any input at all.
>
> Who else thinks the big companies mentioned are excited because they
> think they can get more control over it?

Of course it's part of a general plan: I'd venture that a free Internet is 
nowadays the only remaining threat to the establishment of a true and 
definitive global empire, in any case surely something the lords of this 
world look forward to shut down to the usual propaganda/advertising channels 
as soon as reasonably possible.  As usual, terrorism is going to be the main 
excuse, cyber-attacks, our safety, and similar.

Indeed, I wouldn't worries about China or Pakistan, my striped friend: in a 
first instance, that's actually what may still be saving us, but, looking 
into it just a bit better, this empire has really nothing to do with 
national governments or national powers of any kind, and so it's been for 
quite a long time now.  Catch up, will you?  The enemy isn't your 
neighbour...

Julio
 

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#1755

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:47:52 -0000
"Julio Di Egidio" <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:
 
> Of course it's part of a general plan: I'd venture that a free Internet is 
> nowadays the only remaining threat to the establishment of a true and 
> definitive global empire, in any case surely something the lords of this 
> world look forward to shut down to the usual propaganda/advertising channels 
> as soon as reasonably possible.  As usual, terrorism is going to be the main 
> excuse, cyber-attacks, our safety, and similar.
> 
> Indeed, I wouldn't worries about China or Pakistan, my striped friend: in a 
> first instance, that's actually what may still be saving us, but, looking 
> into it just a bit better, this empire has really nothing to do with 
> national governments or national powers of any kind, and so it's been for 
> quite a long time now.  Catch up, will you?  The enemy isn't your 
> neighbour...

That one is easy enough to accept: my neighbor is busy shoveling snow
in his sweatpants while listening to "Car Talk" on his ipod.  No threat
there.  As for a dastardly scheme to remove the last bastion of hope
against an evil empire (<evil laugh>bwah ha ha ha ha</evil laugh>) I'd
point out:

1. our greatest threats are complacency and incompetence, as usual, and
2. the Internet has generally sucked at being an anti-revolutionary
force.  Internet users are too easily tracked, filtered, monitored, and
tricked.  We have real evidence of bad governments installing malware,
co-opting Facebook, blocking Twitter, hacking eamil, and more.

You want an anti-revolutionary tool?  Get back on the shortwave radio.
Go read chapter 09 of the Dictator's Handbook:
http://dictatorshandbook.net/book/node236.html

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#1763

"RS Wood" <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote in message 
news:20140318091035.23cc69eb.rsw@therandymon.com...
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:47:52 -0000
> "Julio Di Egidio" <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:
<snip>
>> Of course it's part of a general plan: I'd venture that a free Internet 
>> is
>> nowadays the only remaining threat to the establishment of a true and
>> definitive global empire

> 1. our greatest threats are complacency and incompetence, as usual, and

Well, how to contradict you there...

> 2. the Internet has generally sucked at being an anti-revolutionary

You have no idea what you are talking about, too busy shovelling your 
courtyard I assume, lest you be late for your tea time.

And, so that you know, I didn't smile at your wit, not even for a moment.

Julio
 

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#1748 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> From the «Got Root?» department:
> Title: The Internet Is About to Take Its Next Giant Evolutionary Leap
> Author: Sam Gustin
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:47:34 -0400
> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~3/yMncl2Uam-c/
> Podcast Download URL:
> http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1bf50c917fee8778c289fc16128f5baf?s=96&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96
> 
> The U.S. plan to relinquish stewardship of key technical functions that
> ensure the Internet runs properly drew praise and criticism over the weekend.
> If the process goes smoothly, it shouldn’t affect the day-to-day Internet
> experience for users, but the shift, which was announced[1] Friday by U.S.
> officials, represents an important development in the evolution of the
> Internet. MoreHere's An Updated Tally Of All The People Who Have Ever Died
> From A Marijuana Overdose Huffington Post[2]These Disturbing Fast Food Truths
> Will Make You Reconsider Your Lunch Huffington Post[3]Savannah Guthrie Is
> Married and Pregnant People[4]Analyzing the Nos. 1, potential sleepers and
> top players by regional Sports Illustrated[5]'Walking Dead': They did WHAT?!
> Entertainment Weekly[6]
> 
> Although the U.S. has long intended to give up its role overseeing the system
> of managing Internet domain names, the proposed transition has already
> attracted[7] critics who fear that the Internet’s free and open nature could
> be jeopardized. At the same time, the plan has received positive feedback
> from several major technology companies, including Google, AT&T and Verizon.
> Popular Among Subscribers[image 9][8]
> 
> Make Fun Of Everything
> [8]Subscribe[10]
> 
> The South’s Red-Hot Town
> [11]
> 
> Obama’s Trauma Team
> [12]
> 
> The origins of the Internet date back to the early 1960s, when the U.S.
> government funded research that led to the development of “ARPANET,” which
> was established by the Department of Defense’s Advanced Research Projects
> Agency (DARPA). ARPANET was eventually connected to other government,
> academic and research networks, forming a “network of networks” that would
> ultimately become known as the Internet.
> 
> Since then, the U.S. government has had an oversight role in the distribution
> of numbers that make up Internet addresses, as well as the Domain Name System
> (DNS) that translates those numerical addresses into recognizable Internet
> names like time.com. For more than a decade, the non-profit Internet
> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) has performed those
> functions under a contract from the Department of Commerce’s National
> Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA).
> 
> “The DNS is similar to a phone book, where if you know someone’s name, you
> can find their number and place a call,” says Laura Denardis, a professor[13]
> at American University and the author[14] of The Global War for Internet
> Governance. “Most people take this for granted because they’re not aware of
> the technical architecture behind the curtain that’s needed to keep the
> Internet going.”
> 
> It remains unclear what kind of entity will assume stewardship of the
> Internet DNS, but the U.S. has made clear that it will “not accept a proposal
> that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an inter-governmental
> organization solution.” That’s because the U.S. does not want any single
> government or coalition of governments, like that represented by the United
> Nations’ International Telecommunications Union (ITU), to exert undue
> influence over Internet governance.
> 
> “We need to have some kind of centralized coordination of names and numbers,
> because each name and number has to be globally unique,” DeNardis tells TIME.
> “Someone has to keep track to make sure there’s not duplication of addresses.
> The best case scenario is a balance of power in which multiple stakeholders
> play a role.”
> 
> The U.S. has been under increasing pressure from other countries to
> relinquish its stewardship of the Internet’s technical functions in the wake
> of revelations about U.S. Internet surveillance supplied by former National
> Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. “The Snowden disclosures served as
> a lightning rod to focus attention on this issue,” says DeNardis, although
> she was quick to point out that the U.S. role in the Internet DNS is separate
> from NSA surveillance activities.
> 
> On a conference call Friday, ICANN Chief Executive Fadi Chehade downplayed
> Snowden’s role, according[15] to Bloomberg. In truth, the U.S. never intended
> for its Internet stewardship to go on indefinitely. As far back as 1997, the
> U.S. made clear that its ultimate goal was to privatize the Internet’s
> technical functions to support a “multistakeholder” model of governance. The
> current U.S. contract expires on September 30, 2015, so the NTIA is asking
> ICANN to bring together stakeholders from around the world to craft a
> proposal for the next stage of Internet governance.
> 
> “The timing is right to start the transition process,” said Assistant
> Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information Lawrence E.
> Strickling. In a statement, NTIA said that it has “communicated” to ICANN
> that the proposal must have “broad community support” and ensure the
> “security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS” and maintain the
> openness of the Internet as a global platform. Importantly, the U.S. will
> retain responsibility for the .mil, .gov, and .edu top-level domains.
> 
> Predictably, the proposed transition has already begun to be politicized[16].
> Following the announcement, Newt Gingrich, the Republican former House
> Speaker, tweeted[17]: “Every American should worry about Obama giving up
> control of the Internet to an undefined group. This is very, very dangerous.”
> He added[18]: “What is the global internet community that Obama wants to turn
> the internet over to? This risks foreign dictatorships defining the
> internet.”
> 
> The proposed transition is also likely to be politicized at an international
> level, says Lauren Weinstein, a veteran Internet policy expert[19]. “Most of
> the issues involved in this area are primarily technical in nature,” says
> Weinstein. “Unfortunately, in today’s international environment, there is a
> real risk of this matter turning into a toxic global political football,
> which would obviously not be the best situation for making rational decisions
> about such complex matters.”
> 
> For now, the response from the U.S. private sector has been positive, and
> several major technology companies praised the U.S. announcement. “The
> internet was built to be borderless and this move toward a more
> multistakeholder model of governance creates an opportunity to preserve its
> security, stability and openness,” Vint Cerf, Google’s chief Internet
> evangelist, said in a statement emailed to TIME.
> 
> Len Cali, AT&T’s senior vice president of global public policy, called[20]
> the transition “an important step in the ongoing evolution of the global
> Internet.” Verizon was similarly upbeat. “We applaud NTIA for recognizing the
> global relevance of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) functions
> and the current maturity of multi-stakeholder frameworks,” Craig Silliman,
> Verizon’s senior vice president for public policy, said[21] in a statement.
> 
> DeNardis is optimistic that the transition will go smoothly, but points out
> that there isn’t even a proposal on the table to replace the U.S. as steward
> of the DNS. “I expect that everything will go well, but the Devil will be in
> the details,” she says. “If everything goes smoothly, everyone should still
> be able to watch Orange is the New Black on Netflix.”[image 22][image 23]
> 
> Links:
> [1]:
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions
> (link)
> [2]: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/marijuana-overdose_n_4538580.html (link)
> [3]: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/fast-food-truths_n_4296243.html (link)
> [4]: http://feeds.people.com/~r/people/headlines/~3/_rcn4tAtPWg/0,,20797450,00.html (link)
> [5]:
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-college-basketball-mens-tournament/news/20140316/ncaa-tournament-regional-breakdowns-march-madness/?xid=si_topstories
> (link)
> [6]: http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/03/16/walking-dead-the-grove/?xid=time-partner (link)
> [7]: Although the U.S. has long intended to give up its role overseeing
> important technical aspects of the Internet, the proposed transition has
> already attracted critics who fear that the Internet's free and open
> nature could be jeopardized. At the same time, the plan has received
> positive feedback from major Internet service providers, including AT&T
> and Verizon, which both issued statements of support.  The (link)
> [8]: http://time.com/22993/key-and-peele-make-fun-of-everything/?pcd=pw-pas (link)
> [9]: http://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/ideascover.jpg?w=560 (image)
> [10]: https://subscription.time.com/storefront/subscribe-to-time/link/1004870.html (link)
> [11]: http://time.com/13819/the-souths-red-hot-town/?pcd=pw-pas (link)
> [12]: http://time.com/10228/obamas-trauma-team/?pcd=pw-pas (link)
> [13]: http://lauradenardis.org/ (link)
> [14]: http://www.amazon.com/The-Global-War-Internet-Governance/dp/0300181353 (link)
> [15]: On a conference call Friday, ICANN Chief Executive Fadi Chehade
> downplayed Snowden's role, according to Bloomberg. In truth, the U.S.
> never intended for its Internet stewardship to go on indefinitely. As far
> back as 1997, the U.S. made clear that the ultimate goal was to privatize
> the technical functions to support a "multistakeholder" model of Internet
> governance. The current U.S. contract expires on September 30, 2015, so
> the NTIA is asking ICANN to bring together stakeholders from around the
> world to craft a proposal for the next stage of Internet governance. 
> "The timing is right to start the transition process," said Assistant
> Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information Lawrence E.
> Strickling. In a statement, NTIA said that it has "communicated" to ICANN
> that the transition proposal must have "broad community support" and
> ensure the "security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS" and
> maintain the openness of the Internet as a global platform. Importantly,
> the U.S. will retain responsibility for the .mil, .gov, and .edu top-level domains. (link)
> [16]:
> http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/internet-transition-triggers-gop-backlash-104698.html
> (link)
> [17]: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/444592735983390720 (link)
> [18]: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/444608973455384576 (link)
> [19]: http://www.vortex.com/lauren (link)
> [20]:
> http://www.attpublicpolicy.com/international/the-continuing-evolution-of-the-global-internet/
> (link)
> [21]:
> http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/verizon-supports-global-multi-stakeholder-process-for-domain-names
> (link)
> [22]:
> http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=time.com&blog=1359921&post=25931&subd=timedotcom&ref=&feed=1
> (image)
> [23]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~4/yMncl2Uam-c (image)

That gives me just enough time to get my Echolink setup on HF going, just
in case the Dutch and Saudis decide to team up with the Chinese and censor
the hell out of the net.

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#1767 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

"Oregonian Haruspex" <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:193729505416787719.549721bob_davis_retired-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org...
> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> From the ŤGot Root?ť department:
>> Title: The Internet Is About to Take Its Next Giant Evolutionary Leap
>> Author: Sam Gustin
>> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:47:34 -0400
>> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/timeblogs/nerd_world/~3/yMncl2Uam-c/
>> Podcast Download URL:
>> http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1bf50c917fee8778c289fc16128f5baf?s=96&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96
>>
>> The U.S. plan to relinquish stewardship of key technical functions that
>> ensure the Internet runs properly drew praise and criticism over the 
>> weekend.

<....snip....>

> That gives me just enough time to get my Echolink setup on HF going, just
> in case the Dutch and Saudis decide to team up with the Chinese and censor
> the hell out of the net.

<ot>
I had an Echolink set up for a while in the late 90's - but the disaster 
never came (yet); I guess I should set it up again!
</ot>

The whole concept of ICANN loosing even the modicum of control they have is 
scary - sure, it's a US based non-profit, but giving that up to a few 
mega-profit corps - bad plan 

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#1768 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

In article <lg9sfp$vjk$1@jefelex.eternal-september.org>, John <j@j.j>
wrote:

> The whole concept of ICANN loosing even the modicum of control they have is 
> scary - sure, it's a US based non-profit, but giving that up to a few 
> mega-profit corps - bad plan 

loosing?

-- 
"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a
friend.... if you have one." - GB Shaw to Churchill "Cannot possibly
attend first night, will attend second...  if there is one." - Winston
Churchill, in response.

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#1769 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> loosing?

As in, "loosing patience with pedantic wankerism."  

I mod you "-1 troll."  

Their is nothing moor annoying that self-appointed gramar natsies.  - Godwin.

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#1774 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:28:10 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
<rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:

>On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> loosing?
>
>As in, "loosing patience with pedantic wankerism."  
>
>I mod you "-1 troll."  
>
>Their is nothing moor annoying that self-appointed gramar natsies.  - Godwin.


 Tim's question just seemed to be one aimed at clarifying what John
had _actually_ intended to type. Did he mean to type "loosening" or
Losing" ? Quite obviously some sort of typo due to 'changing horses in
mid stream' portmanteau effect. Afaiwc, "pedantic wankerism" had
nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Clearly, Godwin must have been lampooning the "Literally Challenged"
with that statement. :-)
-- 
Regards, J B Good

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#1779 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On 2014-03-18, Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:28:10 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
><rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>
>>> loosing?
>>
>>As in, "loosing patience with pedantic wankerism."  
>>
>>I mod you "-1 troll."  
>>
>>Their is nothing moor annoying that self-appointed gramar natsies.  -
>>Godwin.
>
>
>  Tim's question just seemed to be one aimed at clarifying what John
> had _actually_ intended to type. Did he mean to type "loosening" or
> Losing" ? Quite obviously some sort of typo due to 'changing horses in
> mid stream' portmanteau effect. Afaiwc, "pedantic wankerism" had
> nothing whatsoever to do with it.
>
> Clearly, Godwin must have been lampooning the "Literally Challenged"
> with that statement. :-)

Ha ha - that gave me a good laugh!  Thanks for that.  Tim, if I've
misinterpreted you, then I apologize.  But if I was right, then I'm
going to work hard to ensure the expression 'pedantic wankerism' enters
into the mainstream lexicon where it can be used to identify what only
those words can adequately describe :)

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#1782 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

In article <lgafqt$ccs$1@solani.org>, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
wrote:

> On 2014-03-18, Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:28:10 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
> ><rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> loosing?
> >>
> >>As in, "loosing patience with pedantic wankerism."  
> >>
> >>I mod you "-1 troll."  
> >>
> >>Their is nothing moor annoying that self-appointed gramar natsies.  -
> >>Godwin.
> >
> >
> >  Tim's question just seemed to be one aimed at clarifying what John
> > had _actually_ intended to type. Did he mean to type "loosening" or
> > Losing" ? Quite obviously some sort of typo due to 'changing horses in
> > mid stream' portmanteau effect. Afaiwc, "pedantic wankerism" had
> > nothing whatsoever to do with it.
> >
> > Clearly, Godwin must have been lampooning the "Literally Challenged"
> > with that statement. :-)
> 
> Ha ha - that gave me a good laugh!  Thanks for that.  Tim, if I've
> misinterpreted you, then I apologize.  But if I was right, then I'm
> going to work hard to ensure the expression 'pedantic wankerism' enters
> into the mainstream lexicon where it can be used to identify what only
> those words can adequately describe :)

No, you were right. But it's one of those memes that burns my arse (ass
is another - what *is* it with Yanks and their donkeys?) so I raise a
pedantic eyebrow each time I see it. Criteria used as a singular is
another, and I'm sure there are others.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#1793 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
> No, you were right. But it's one of those memes that burns my arse (ass
> is another - what *is* it with Yanks and their donkeys?) so I raise a
> pedantic eyebrow each time I see it.

Is "ass" a euphemism, cf the way Yanks ask their way to the bathroom when
they really mean the lavatory?

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

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#1801 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On 3/19/2014 8:12 AM, Paul Sture wrote:
> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>
>> No, you were right. But it's one of those memes that burns my arse (ass
>> is another - what *is* it with Yanks and their donkeys?) so I raise a
>> pedantic eyebrow each time I see it.
> 
> Is "ass" a euphemism, cf the way Yanks ask their way to the bathroom when
> they really mean the lavatory?
> 

No, at least not any more (maybe it was once, Shakespeare had a
character named "Bottom" who was transformed into a donkey).  Probably
just dialect drift, but far enough so that "arse" isn't a word in
American English.  It's a bit uncouth, if we were being high-toned
we'd say "buttocks". "Bathroom" (and "rest room") certainly is a
widespread euphemism here, though the word "lavatory" itself also
seems to be (given that it means "washbasin").

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#1806 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
news:lgcjhj$u1t$1@dont-email.me...
> On 3/19/2014 8:12 AM, Paul Sture wrote:
>> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> No, you were right. But it's one of those memes that burns my arse (ass
>>> is another - what *is* it with Yanks and their donkeys?) so I raise a
>>> pedantic eyebrow each time I see it.
>>
>> Is "ass" a euphemism, cf the way Yanks ask their way to the bathroom when
>> they really mean the lavatory?
>>
>
> No, at least not any more (maybe it was once, Shakespeare had a
> character named "Bottom" who was transformed into a donkey).  Probably
> just dialect drift, but far enough so that "arse" isn't a word in
> American English.  It's a bit uncouth, if we were being high-toned
> we'd say "buttocks". "Bathroom" (and "rest room") certainly is a
> widespread euphemism here, though the word "lavatory" itself also
> seems to be (given that it means "washbasin").

Regardless of the wankerism - actually it was a typo that I discovered only 
after I sent the message (and I always proofread everything I write!) but 
goes to show, it's good to make a mistake and enjoy the ensuing debate about 
supposed meanings and clarifications! :)

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#1786 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <lg9sfp$vjk$1@jefelex.eternal-september.org>, John <j@j.j>
> wrote:
>
>> The whole concept of ICANN loosing even the modicum of control they have is 
>> scary - sure, it's a US based non-profit, but giving that up to a few 
>> mega-profit corps - bad plan 
>
> loosing?

As in loosing off shotguns?

In a "I've just seen a peasant walking across my lawn" kind of way?

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

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#1851 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
> loosing?
>

Ha - found this old Oatmeal cartoon while looking for something else.
Relevant.

http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/english

"your/you're, its/it's, definately ... etc" along with

"Tip: win = opposite of lose, loose = your mom"

and "irregardless is not a word unless you're an imbecile."

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#1853 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

In article <lghbtq$ojo$1@solani.org>, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
wrote:

> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >
> > loosing?
> 
> Ha - found this old Oatmeal cartoon while looking for something else.
> Relevant.
> 
> http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/english
> 
> "your/you're, its/it's, definately ... etc" along with
> 
> "Tip: win = opposite of lose, loose = your mom"
> 
> and "irregardless is not a word unless you're an imbecile."

Yep, yep, all of the above and "crtierias" as well.

<jumps up and down with rage>

-- 
"Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you
bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where 
bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc

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#1856 — Re: Root DNS ceded to ICANN in 2015. Ready?

On 2014-03-21, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <lghbtq$ojo$1@solani.org>, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-18, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > loosing?
>> 
>> Ha - found this old Oatmeal cartoon while looking for something else.
>> Relevant.
>> 
>> http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/english
>> 
>> "your/you're, its/it's, definately ... etc" along with
>> 
>> "Tip: win = opposite of lose, loose = your mom"
>> 
>> and "irregardless is not a word unless you're an imbecile."
>
> Yep, yep, all of the above and "crtierias" as well.
>
><jumps up and down with rage>
>

When it comes to marketing yOu can add the mangling of nouns into verbs.

I give you this example, from the Oxford University Press, no less:

<http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/productize>

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

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