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  Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-06 22:38 -0800
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! xyzzy <stalkers-suck@grr.la> - 2014-02-07 00:16 -0800
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "I'm Batman, Dammit" <batman@thecave.invalid> - 2014-02-07 09:44 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:39 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-08 22:46 -0500
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-09 23:14 +0000
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-10 01:55 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-09 21:12 -0500
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-09 18:28 -0800
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-09 23:35 -0500
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 12:39 +0000
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-11 04:05 +0000
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 09:25 -0500
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:11 -0500
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-26 22:20 +0000
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-03-02 23:40 -0500
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-20 17:14 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-03-05 10:05 +0000
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:03 -0500
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-07 10:47 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 21:40 -0500
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> - 2014-02-08 08:51 +0100
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Austin Wolfe <aewolfe@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2014-03-05 01:58 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-05 09:37 +0000
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-03-05 14:25 +0100
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-03-05 07:02 -0800
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 10:55 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-06 12:09 +0000
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-06 14:13 +0100
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-06 16:56 +0000
                      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-06 17:05 +0000
                        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-16 14:39 +0100
                          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-16 17:25 +0000
                            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 22:47 +0100
                          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> - 2014-03-17 08:20 +0000
                            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 22:55 +0100
                      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-06 21:18 +0100
                        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-06 23:00 +0000
                          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-07 00:53 +0100
                            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-07 04:58 +0000
                            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-07 10:11 +0000
                              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-07 21:04 +0100
                            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-07 10:52 +0000
                              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-07 13:02 +0200
                                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-07 12:26 +0000
                                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-07 15:15 +0000
                                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-07 20:55 +0000
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-06 14:03 +0000
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 17:55 +0000
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:43 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-03-06 10:48 -0800
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 19:45 +0000
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:15 -0800
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-10 20:25 +0000
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-03-10 14:07 -0700
                      Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) Christian <chris_news@arcor.de> - 2014-03-22 09:40 +0100
                        Re: Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) "voyager529" <voyager529@live.com> - 2015-03-27 10:14 -0400
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-10 21:55 +0000
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-10 22:25 +0000
                      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 06:14 +0000
                        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-11 07:55 +0000
                          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 08:38 +0000
                            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-12 08:08 +0000
                          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-11 10:31 +0000
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-10 22:26 +0000
                      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Dario Niedermann <dnied@tiscali.it> - 2014-03-11 10:42 +0100
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-03-10 22:05 -0700
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Chris Elvidge <chris@raspberrypi.mshome.net> - 2014-03-11 10:48 +0000
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 09:48 -0500
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-05 15:22 +0000
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! nobody@nowhere.invalid (natp) - 2014-03-06 02:42 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-03-06 06:08 -0600
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-06 14:10 +0200
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:26 +0000
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-03-06 16:56 +0200
                    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-06 18:25 +0200
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 11:55 -0500
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-07 19:30 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:35 +0000
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 12:37 +0000
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-25 23:50 -0500
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 14:23 -0800
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 00:15 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:41 -0800
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 10:09 -0500
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 15:44 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Brian Burns <spamcan@tannasg.tk> - 2014-02-08 17:18 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-08 18:34 +0000
                  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 19:52 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 10:25 -0500
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 03:20 +0000
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 09:36 -0800
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! junkmailid1@gmail.com - 2014-02-09 13:27 -0800
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! invis <invis@invis.net> - 2014-02-10 00:31 +0000
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! AnonymousCoward <florian.doyon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 04:50 -0800
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! gm_stack <gm@stackunderflow.com> - 2014-02-10 05:04 -0800
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! arcfide@sacrideo.us (Aaron W. Hsu) - 2014-02-23 03:02 -0500
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-23 09:34 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-02-23 07:31 -0800
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-23 17:36 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-23 12:23 +0200
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-02-26 17:30 +0000

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#1449

Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:25:13 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
> 
>> <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443
>>> seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a
>>> university).
>> 
>> What are you doing posting from work?
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a serious question...
> 
> I teach philosophy, mathematics and information systems. It is by no 
> means a 9-to-5 job.
> 
> I don't make a distinction between work time and free time. I have been 
> correcting mid-term exams last weekend at home. I write my course 
> material and do my research during the evening/night. Except when I am 
> teaching a class or helping students or attending a meeting, nobody cares 
> where I am or how I organize my time. 
> 
> Nowhere in my contract is mentioned how many hours I have to work, there 
> even is no job description beyond "academic personnel". I have honestly 
> no clue how many days of holiday I should have during a year. The past 4 
> years I have been teaching summer schools (I really loved doing that), 
> this year I will have the first summer vacation since 2009.
> 
> I do a lot of things for my university for which I am not paid (for 
> example: system administration of our faculty's student grading system 
> and training my colleagues on how to use it, or organizing evening 
> debates for the alumni club), because it is a lot more than just a job to 
> me: it is my life and my passion. 
> 
> I don't consider the university as my employer but as the community I 
> belong to since I was a student. I am still involved in things I did here 
> as a volunteer during my studies and I don't ask myself if that is part 
> of my job or rather a hobby. 
> 
> When I decided that I wanted to spend a part of my time at the philosophy 
> department or that I need to work for a month with a team of 
> mathematicians in another country, I just informed my dean about that. No 
> questions were asked, because he knows that I do my job.
> 
> So if I want to post on usenet or hack away on a computer game in the 
> office I can just do that.

You just fed the troll.  Oops!

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#1450

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:55:45 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:

> Koen Lefever <koen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:25:13 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>> 
>>> <koen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 &
>>>> 443 seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange
>>>> for a university).
>>> 
>>> What are you doing posting from work?
>> 
>> I'm not sure if this is a serious question...
>> 
<snip>
>> So if I want to post on usenet or hack away on a computer game in the
>> office I can just do that.
> 
> You just fed the troll.  Oops!

Well, I'll consider that as part of my n00b initiation to usenet and 
refrain from doing it again.

Thanks to several posters who came up with good advise on using port 80 
or ssh.

Cheers,
Koen.

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#1505

Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:55:45 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> 
>> Koen Lefever <koen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:25:13 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> 
>>>> <koen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 &
>>>>> 443 seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange
>>>>> for a university).
>>>> 
>>>> What are you doing posting from work?
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if this is a serious question...
>>> 
> <snip>
>>> So if I want to post on usenet or hack away on a computer game in the
>>> office I can just do that.
>> 
>> You just fed the troll.  Oops!
> 
> Well, I'll consider that as part of my n00b initiation to usenet and 
> refrain from doing it again.
> 
> Thanks to several posters who came up with good advise on using port 80 
> or ssh.
> 
> Cheers,
> Koen.

Not a big deal, of course, but refraining from feeding trolls makes it much
easier for people who have killfiled them to avoid ever seeing a trace of
them.  It keeps the S/N ratio higher.

Thanks.

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#1452

In article
<1595455581416217311.678154bob_davis_retired-yahoo.com@news.eternal-sept
ember.org>, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:25:13 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
> > 
> >> <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443
> >>> seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a
> >>> university).
> >> 
> >> What are you doing posting from work?
> > 
> > I'm not sure if this is a serious question...
> > 
> > I teach philosophy, mathematics and information systems. It is by no 
> > means a 9-to-5 job.
> > 
> > I don't make a distinction between work time and free time. I have been 
> > correcting mid-term exams last weekend at home. I write my course 
> > material and do my research during the evening/night. Except when I am 
> > teaching a class or helping students or attending a meeting, nobody cares 
> > where I am or how I organize my time. 
> > 
> > Nowhere in my contract is mentioned how many hours I have to work, there 
> > even is no job description beyond "academic personnel". I have honestly 
> > no clue how many days of holiday I should have during a year. The past 4 
> > years I have been teaching summer schools (I really loved doing that), 
> > this year I will have the first summer vacation since 2009.
> > 
> > I do a lot of things for my university for which I am not paid (for 
> > example: system administration of our faculty's student grading system 
> > and training my colleagues on how to use it, or organizing evening 
> > debates for the alumni club), because it is a lot more than just a job to 
> > me: it is my life and my passion. 
> > 
> > I don't consider the university as my employer but as the community I 
> > belong to since I was a student. I am still involved in things I did here 
> > as a volunteer during my studies and I don't ask myself if that is part 
> > of my job or rather a hobby. 
> > 
> > When I decided that I wanted to spend a part of my time at the philosophy 
> > department or that I need to work for a month with a team of 
> > mathematicians in another country, I just informed my dean about that. No 
> > questions were asked, because he knows that I do my job.
> > 
> > So if I want to post on usenet or hack away on a computer game in the 
> > office I can just do that.
> 
> You just fed the troll.  Oops!

Not at all. He gave what he considers to be a reasoned response to my
question. Sounds a bit like the life of Riley to me, but hey, that's
academia for you.

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#1442

On 2014-03-10, Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:48:11 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have
>> posted since the Slashdot refugee migration.
>
> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443 
> seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a 
> university).
>
> Anyway, I won't do it again, I'll wait until I'm at home and use Pan to 
> post.

Eternal-september accepts NNTP connections on port 80, and on port 563
for NNTPS.  Individual.net can handle NNTPS over port 563, and NNTP over
ports 80 and 8119.  Some other NSPs are also as flexible - or more so.

Of course, ISPs and employers can block NNTP or NNTPS over any or all
ports, if they really want to.

A university should have it's own news-server, of course, possibly
requiring access via a Unix shell account and using whichever usenet
client is installed - could be tin or trn or Pine/Alpine/Re-alpine, or
slrn if you're lucky.  Your friendly local sysadmin may be able to help.

-- 
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
--  Whiskers 
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

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#1451

Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:

> Individual.net can handle NNTPS over port 563 

news.albasani.net too.

-- 
> cat /etc/slackware-version && uname -mprs
Slackware 14.0
Linux 3.12.0-dn i686 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36

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#1447

On 3/10/2014 1:25 PM PT, Koen Lefever typed:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:48:11 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have
>> posted since the Slashdot refugee migration.
>
> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443
> seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a
> university).
>
> Anyway, I won't do it again, I'll wait until I'm at home and use Pan to
> post.

Use Tin and SSH2. Or SSH2 proxy! :D
-- 
"When I was five years old, I saw an insect that had been eaten by ants 
and of which nothing remained except the shell. Through the holes in its 
anatomy one could see the sky. Every time I wish to attain purity I look 
at the sky through flesh." --Salvadore Dali
    /\___/\         Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site)
   / /\ /\ \                Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net
  | |o   o| |
     \ _ /        If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link.
      ( )         If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed.
A song (i/wa)s playing on this computer: Mike Oldfied - Flowers of the 
Forest

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#1456

On 10/03/2014 20:25, Koen Lefever wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:48:11 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> I looked at 50 different posters' headers and saw only 2 GGers who have
>> posted since the Slashdot refugee migration.
>
> I posted a couple of times from Google Groups, because ports 119 & 443
> seem to be blocked on my office network (which is rather strange for a
> university).
>
> Anyway, I won't do it again, I'll wait until I'm at home and use Pan to
> post.
>

Try port 80?

Technical information

eternal-september.org can be accessed via the following server names and 
ports::

Client Settings
Server name: news.eternal-september.org
Port : 119 (NNTP)
Port : 563 (encrypted connection NNTPS)

Servername: reader80.eternal-september.org
Port : 80

Servername: reader443.eternal-september.org
Port : 443 (encrypted connection NNTPS)

The number of concurrent connections to the server is limited to 4


-- 

Chris Elvidge
England

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#1266

On 5 Mar 2014 09:37:12 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

>On 2014-03-05, Austin Wolfe <aewolfe@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-07, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello all Slashdot refugees.  Let me be the first to inagurate a new 
>>>> era of Dice-free Slashdotters reveling in the freedom of Usenet, the 
>>>> grand-daddy of Internet discussion forums.
>>>>
>>>> Plus this thing supports Unicode!  ????
>>>>
>>> 
>>> OMG Poniez!!!  I think it must have been a decade since I've
>>> "followed up" on a usenet post.
>>> 
>>> Rock On Refugees!!!
>>
>> It has been a very long time since I have been on Usenet and it 
>> has been at least a decade since I have followed up on a post also.
>
>OTOH, some of us never left. Web forums are vile.

Mind you, the slashdot forum was possibly the least vile of the bunch.

* It was largely unmoderated (other than by the users, but that only
affected score and posts were - aside from one or two exceptions -
never deleted)

* It allowed - and to some degree even welcomed - anonymous posters,
so you did not have to register to speak your mind

* You could properly thread the conversation.

* It, to some degree, allowed you to kill-file certain posters (well,
moderate down)

* It offered a wide variety of topics, as opposed to most other forums
which tended to revolve around a specific topic

* It was a text-only medium; no avatars, graphic emoticons, or
pictures to distract from the topic at hand. If you had an image
related to the topic at hand, you posted a link.

* And - even in its decline - remained fairly technical and
sophisticated, a far cry from the flame-fests and fan-wankage of its
competitors.

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#1270

On 2014-03-05, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2014 09:37:12 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 2014-03-05, Austin Wolfe <aewolfe@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>> John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-02-07, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello all Slashdot refugees.  Let me be the first to inagurate a new 
>>>>> era of Dice-free Slashdotters reveling in the freedom of Usenet, the 
>>>>> grand-daddy of Internet discussion forums.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus this thing supports Unicode!  ????
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> OMG Poniez!!!  I think it must have been a decade since I've
>>>> "followed up" on a usenet post.
>>>> 
>>>> Rock On Refugees!!!
>>>
>>> It has been a very long time since I have been on Usenet and it 
>>> has been at least a decade since I have followed up on a post also.
>>
>>OTOH, some of us never left. Web forums are vile.
>
> Mind you, the slashdot forum was possibly the least vile of the bunch.
>
> * It was largely unmoderated (other than by the users, but that only
> affected score and posts were - aside from one or two exceptions -
> never deleted)
>
> * It allowed - and to some degree even welcomed - anonymous posters,
> so you did not have to register to speak your mind
>
> * You could properly thread the conversation.
>
> * It, to some degree, allowed you to kill-file certain posters (well,
> moderate down)
>
> * It offered a wide variety of topics, as opposed to most other forums
> which tended to revolve around a specific topic
>
> * It was a text-only medium; no avatars, graphic emoticons, or
> pictures to distract from the topic at hand. If you had an image
> related to the topic at hand, you posted a link.
>
> * And - even in its decline - remained fairly technical and
> sophisticated, a far cry from the flame-fests and fan-wankage of its
> competitors.

A veritable plethora of good points, with which I concur.


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#1277

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5 Mar 2014 09:37:12 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>>OTOH, some of us never left. Web forums are vile.
>
>Mind you, the slashdot forum was possibly the least vile of the bunch.
>
>* It was largely unmoderated (other than by the users, but that only
>affected score and posts were - aside from one or two exceptions -
>never deleted)

Usenet does not offer _group_ moderation in the sense of a concise
numeric score to see what the hive mind thinks of a given post.
That may turn out to be the secret sauce that makes Slashdot
(or SoylentNews) better than comp.misc...time will tell.

Most of the other points you listed apply to Usenet as well as Slashdot:
anonymous posting, threading, killfiles, and text-only content.

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#1285

> Usenet does not offer _group_ moderation in the sense of a concise numeric score 
> to see what the hive mind thinks of a given post. 

This is the 3rd time this suggestion has come up in this group. 
hint: see my sig 
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View this thread at http://squte.com/node/4363#comment-16355

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#1287

"tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com>:

>> Usenet does not offer _group_ moderation in the sense of a concise
>> numeric score to see what the hive mind thinks of a given post. 
>
> This is the 3rd time this suggestion has come up in this group.

-1 Bad idea


Marko

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#1291

On 2014-03-06, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com>:
>
>>> Usenet does not offer _group_ moderation in the sense of a concise
>>> numeric score to see what the hive mind thinks of a given post. 
>>
>> This is the 3rd time this suggestion has come up in this group.
>
> -1 Bad idea
>
>
> Marko

Long ago and far far away, in another universe (the 1990s), there was
GroupLens; "an automated collaborative filtering system for Usenet".
Then, there wasn't.  The project continues
<http://grouplens.org/about/what-is-grouplens/> but without any
connection to usenet.  Presumably there was insufficient demand from
usenetters - or insufficient support from usenet client software.  (The
current source code for slrn still includes GroupLens support, but it is
normally built without it)
<http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/README.GroupLens>.

So it's technically possible, and potentially there could be more than
one such service in place and users could choose which, if any, to take
part in.  Just as long as those who don't want to don't have their
usenet experience influenced by it.

-- 
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
--  Whiskers 
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

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#1297

Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> writes:

> Long ago and far far away, in another universe (the 1990s), there was
> GroupLens; "an automated collaborative filtering system for Usenet".

Interesting. I guess NoCeM could also be adapted.

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#1302

Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com>:

> Long ago and far far away, in another universe (the 1990s), there was
> GroupLens; "an automated collaborative filtering system for Usenet".
> Then, there wasn't. The project continues
> <http://grouplens.org/about/what-is-grouplens/> but without any
> connection to usenet. Presumably there was insufficient demand from
> usenetters - or insufficient support from usenet client software. (The
> current source code for slrn still includes GroupLens support, but it
> is normally built without it)
> <http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/README.GroupLens>.

Just put us all into your kill file and that'll keep the discussion
tidy.


Marko

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#80

On 2/7/2014 1:38 AM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> Hello all Slashdot refugees.  Let me be the first to inagurate a new era
> of Dice-free Slashdotters reveling in the freedom of Usenet, the
> grand-daddy of Internet discussion forums.
>
> Plus this thing supports Unicode!  すごい！
>

Perhaps the eternal September has finally ended!!

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#83

On 2014-02-07, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
> On 2/7/2014 1:38 AM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>> Hello all Slashdot refugees.  Let me be the first to inagurate a new era
>> of Dice-free Slashdotters reveling in the freedom of Usenet, the
>> grand-daddy of Internet discussion forums.
>>
>> Plus this thing supports Unicode!  すごい！
>>
>
> Perhaps the eternal September has finally ended!!

In a way, it has.  When major ISPs stopped carrying Usenet, the only
ones left (other than the spam bots) were the ones who really cared
about and saw value in Usenet as a platform.  So now that you have to
work to get here, you are rubbing shoulders only with the folks that
cared to expend that amount of work.

Plus, if you shell out the $10/year to a well-run NSP that runs
cleanfeed and bleachbot/etc. it's relatively spam free.  Other
advantages:

1. no sidebar advertising
2. don't need to worry about your page timing out while you're composing
a post
3. no stupid captchas
4. set your own, custom killfiles by word, poster, or even posting
origin (hat tip to Blinky the Shark, who taught us how to axe posts from
Google Groups)
5. Set up leafnode and you can keep a local archive

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#142

On 2014-02-07, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-07, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
> Plus, if you shell out the $10/year to a well-run NSP that runs
> cleanfeed and bleachbot/etc. it's relatively spam free.  Other
> advantages:

Wait, I didn't know that was a thing.  I've paid money off and on to
Easynews, and I've kept my backup account at Eternal September just
because, but I didn't know there were active ways to clean all the
spam up besides personal kill files.  That's cool!

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#186

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:35:58 GMT
Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> wrote:
> Wait, I didn't know that was a thing.  I've paid money off and on to
> Easynews, and I've kept my backup account at Eternal September just
> because, but I didn't know there were active ways to clean all the
> spam up besides personal kill files.  That's cool!

See: http://home.httrack.net/~nocem/

The way it works is a volunteer publishes a feed of articles he or his
software think qualify as spam.  And NSPs decide if they agree with
that person's categorization and methodology, and "subscribe" to his
feed.  Then the news server automatically cancels anything that feed
suggests is spam.  

What it doesn't do though is cancel replies to spam.  And if your
newsreader has already downloaded the spam then it's yours to keep,
unfortunately, so it doesn't make disappear any articles you download
before the software cancels them.

Speaking of spam, my apologies again for the 'glacier' posts elsewhere
here today.  I have a script I can pipe RSS articles into for posting;
it's an easy way to subscribe to interesting RSS feeds and then select
some articles to post into a newsgroup.  But I goofed up one variable
and so it kept posting an older article.  I'm embarrassed about it and
decided to give it a rest for the remainder of today while I continue
testing it.

Mod them down!  ha ha.

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