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People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame?

Started byLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2026-01-04 00:41 +0000
Last post2026-02-18 13:56 +0000
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  People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 00:41 +0000
    Re: People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-14 23:20 +0000
      Re: People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-02-17 18:22 -0500
        Re: People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? arnold@freefriends.org (Aharon Robbins) - 2026-02-18 13:56 +0000

#28160 — People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame?

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-04 00:41 +0000
SubjectPeople can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame?
Message-ID<10jccur$1l86o$1@dont-email.me>
This article about the ongoing difficulties of people trying to find
jobs, while at the same time employers seem unable to find people to
fill their job positions, seems to put the primary blame on AI
<https://www.thepost.co.nz/business/360905126/people-cant-find-jobs-jobs-cant-find-people-whos-blame>.
Specifically, employers are relying too much on AI-generated
situations-vacant ads, which leave out important information about the
actual job situation. And so they get too many applicants who are
unsuited to that actual job situation.

Interesting to compare this part

    I’m not advising anyone to be a luddite here, but at a certain
    time we have AI talking to AI who’s talking to AI. Hiring is an
    inherently human process and unfortunately no AI (that I know of)
    can screen for personality, fit within a team or attitude.

with this part

    The uncomfortable truth? If you wouldn't give your all to a role,
    employers can sense it.

If the employers are using AI to screen their applicants, then
probably they won’t “sense” any such thing ...

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#28232

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-02-14 23:20 +0000
Message-ID<10mqvvu$3isnq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#28160
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 00:41:00 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

> This article about the ongoing difficulties of people trying to find
> jobs, while at the same time employers seem unable to find people to
> fill their job positions, seems to put the primary blame on AI
> <https://www.thepost.co.nz/business/360905126/people-cant-find-jobs-jobs-cant-find-people-whos-blame>.

This article
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/money/360937900/he-was-rejected-120-seconds-award-winning-workers-brutal-nine-month-humbling-job-market>
seems to suggest that prospective employers are building what I would
describe as an “AI wall” to screen out job applicants. The rules for
submitting high-quality job applications don’t seem to work any more,
so it’s now back down to whom you know, not what you know: personal
networking becomes a better path to getting a job than trying to
negotiate the increasingly futile automated-filter gauntlet.

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#28235

Fromkludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Date2026-02-17 18:22 -0500
Message-ID<10n2t77$5s1$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#28232
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
><https://www.stuff.co.nz/money/360937900/he-was-rejected-120-seconds-award-winning-workers-brutal-nine-month-humbling-job-market>
>seems to suggest that prospective employers are building what I would
>describe as an AI wall to screen out job applicants. The rules for
>submitting high-quality job applications don't seem to work any more,
>so it's now back down to whom you know, not what you know: personal
>networking becomes a better path to getting a job than trying to
>negotiate the increasingly futile automated-filter gauntlet.

This predates popular AI.  A decade ago, employers were using online 
submission systems, and many of them were receiving thousands upon
thousands of entries from people who were spamming resumes to as many
open positions as possible.

This leads to aggressive keyword filtering, and some of that filtering
was not necessarily well-designed.  We had open a job for RF engineers
with master's degrees in EE and for some reason the letter or resume
had to mention that the applicant had taken high school algebra for it
to pass through the filter.

So... this caused a disaster.  What you are seeing now is that misguided
HR departments, realizing that the process is currently a disaster, have
now deployed AI filtering in place of simple keyword searches.  The end
result is a new and different disaster but not much different than the
original disaster.

Personal networking is really the most effective way to get any sort of
position, but it may not be enough.  Even if the employer wants to hire
you, HE then has to get you through the HR department filter hurdles....
--scott


-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#28237

Fromarnold@freefriends.org (Aharon Robbins)
Date2026-02-18 13:56 +0000
Message-ID<6995c504$0$676$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#28235
In article <10n2t77$5s1$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>Personal networking is really the most effective way to get any sort of
>position, but it may not be enough.  Even if the employer wants to hire
>you, HE then has to get you through the HR department filter hurdles....
>--scott

The last two jobs I had before retiring were found through headhunters.
At least in my country, the employer pays the headhunter, not the
employee, so that may be an option to pursue for someone looking.

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