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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-01-04 00:41 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-02-18 13:56 +0000 |
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People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 00:41 +0000
Re: People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-14 23:20 +0000
Re: People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-02-17 18:22 -0500
Re: People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? arnold@freefriends.org (Aharon Robbins) - 2026-02-18 13:56 +0000
| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-04 00:41 +0000 |
| Subject | People can’t find jobs, jobs can’t find people; who’s to blame? |
| Message-ID | <10jccur$1l86o$1@dont-email.me> |
This article about the ongoing difficulties of people trying to find
jobs, while at the same time employers seem unable to find people to
fill their job positions, seems to put the primary blame on AI
<https://www.thepost.co.nz/business/360905126/people-cant-find-jobs-jobs-cant-find-people-whos-blame>.
Specifically, employers are relying too much on AI-generated
situations-vacant ads, which leave out important information about the
actual job situation. And so they get too many applicants who are
unsuited to that actual job situation.
Interesting to compare this part
I’m not advising anyone to be a luddite here, but at a certain
time we have AI talking to AI who’s talking to AI. Hiring is an
inherently human process and unfortunately no AI (that I know of)
can screen for personality, fit within a team or attitude.
with this part
The uncomfortable truth? If you wouldn't give your all to a role,
employers can sense it.
If the employers are using AI to screen their applicants, then
probably they won’t “sense” any such thing ...
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-02-14 23:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10mqvvu$3isnq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28160 |
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 00:41:00 -0000 (UTC), I wrote: > This article about the ongoing difficulties of people trying to find > jobs, while at the same time employers seem unable to find people to > fill their job positions, seems to put the primary blame on AI > <https://www.thepost.co.nz/business/360905126/people-cant-find-jobs-jobs-cant-find-people-whos-blame>. This article <https://www.stuff.co.nz/money/360937900/he-was-rejected-120-seconds-award-winning-workers-brutal-nine-month-humbling-job-market> seems to suggest that prospective employers are building what I would describe as an “AI wall” to screen out job applicants. The rules for submitting high-quality job applications don’t seem to work any more, so it’s now back down to whom you know, not what you know: personal networking becomes a better path to getting a job than trying to negotiate the increasingly futile automated-filter gauntlet.
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| From | kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) |
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| Date | 2026-02-17 18:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10n2t77$5s1$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #28232 |
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/money/360937900/he-was-rejected-120-seconds-award-winning-workers-brutal-nine-month-humbling-job-market> >seems to suggest that prospective employers are building what I would >describe as an AI wall to screen out job applicants. The rules for >submitting high-quality job applications don't seem to work any more, >so it's now back down to whom you know, not what you know: personal >networking becomes a better path to getting a job than trying to >negotiate the increasingly futile automated-filter gauntlet. This predates popular AI. A decade ago, employers were using online submission systems, and many of them were receiving thousands upon thousands of entries from people who were spamming resumes to as many open positions as possible. This leads to aggressive keyword filtering, and some of that filtering was not necessarily well-designed. We had open a job for RF engineers with master's degrees in EE and for some reason the letter or resume had to mention that the applicant had taken high school algebra for it to pass through the filter. So... this caused a disaster. What you are seeing now is that misguided HR departments, realizing that the process is currently a disaster, have now deployed AI filtering in place of simple keyword searches. The end result is a new and different disaster but not much different than the original disaster. Personal networking is really the most effective way to get any sort of position, but it may not be enough. Even if the employer wants to hire you, HE then has to get you through the HR department filter hurdles.... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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| From | arnold@freefriends.org (Aharon Robbins) |
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| Date | 2026-02-18 13:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6995c504$0$676$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
| In reply to | #28235 |
In article <10n2t77$5s1$1@panix2.panix.com>, Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote: >Personal networking is really the most effective way to get any sort of >position, but it may not be enough. Even if the employer wants to hire >you, HE then has to get you through the HR department filter hurdles.... >--scott The last two jobs I had before retiring were found through headhunters. At least in my country, the employer pays the headhunter, not the employee, so that may be an option to pursue for someone looking.
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