Re: Another memo to web designers

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Another memo to web designers
Date	2019-06-09 14:35 +0000
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Nyssa <Nyssa@logicalinsight.net> wrote:
> I was using SeaMonkey to (attempt to) view the LLBean website.  Lots 
> of churn, then POOF a blank screen.  The only way I figured out it 
> was a Google Captcha problem was when I chose "no style" in the 
> browser's options.

That often means that whatever web framework they are using defers much 
(or all) of the visual layout to javascript running on the local user's 
browser.

It also means they are not observing proper fallback for less capable 
browsers.

> It simply does NOT make any sense to put a challenge in at that point 
> that keeps the user from viewing products.  Not customer-friendly, 
> that's for certain.  I'd think they'd want to make viewing as easy as 
> possible.

No, it makes no sense from your viewpoint as a customer just browing 
the site to look for a product to buy.

To understand how it might make sense, you have to "follow the money".  
From their side, it (the 'are you human' challenge) is likely present 
as an attempt to thwart automated web scraping bots that then supply 
data to many of those "price comparison" websites.  Corporate likely 
does not want those price comparison websites to be able to obtain data 
(likely because corporate knows they charge a premium vs. competitors 
and can't compete only on price) and so corporate's response is not 
"find a way to compete on price" but is instead "find a way to block 
the bots".

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Another memo to web designers Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-17 22:52 +1000
  Re: Another memo to web designers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-17 14:16 +0000
    Re: Another memo to web designers Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-18 14:20 +1000
  Re: Another memo to web designers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-17 15:24 +0000
    Re: Another memo to web designers Robert Munyer <robertm@not-for-mail.invalid> - 2019-06-07 23:02 +0000
      Re: Another memo to web designers Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> - 2019-06-08 10:49 -0400
        Re: Another memo to web designers kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-06-08 12:03 -0400
          Re: Another memo to web designers Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> - 2019-06-08 16:03 -0400
        Re: Another memo to web designers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-06-08 17:16 -0300
          Re: Another memo to web designers not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-06-09 00:56 +0000
            Re: Another memo to web designers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-06-09 02:41 -0300
              Re: Another memo to web designers The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-06-09 08:23 -0700
            Re: Another memo to web designers Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> - 2019-06-09 10:05 -0400
              Re: Another memo to web designers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-09 14:35 +0000
  Re: Another memo to web designers Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2019-05-17 16:57 +0100
    Re: Another memo to web designers Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2019-05-17 17:39 +0100
  Re: Another memo to web designers scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-05-17 17:11 +0000
    Re: Another memo to web designers The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-05-17 10:29 -0700
    Re: Another memo to web designers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-17 17:43 +0000
      Re: Another memo to web designers The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-05-17 12:14 -0700
        Re: Another memo to web designers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-17 20:38 +0000
          Re: Another memo to web designers The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-05-17 15:52 -0700
        Re: Another memo to web designers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-17 17:45 -0300
          Re: Another memo to web designers The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-05-17 15:54 -0700
      Re: Another memo to web designers scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-05-20 18:04 +0000
    Re: Another memo to web designers RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-17 22:10 -0400
      Re: Another memo to web designers Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2019-05-18 05:42 +0100
        Re: Another memo to web designers RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-20 17:24 -0400
      Re: Another memo to web designers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-18 03:20 -0300
        Re: Another memo to web designers scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-05-20 18:16 +0000
      Re: Another memo to web designers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-18 19:48 +0000
        Re: Another memo to web designers The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-05-18 13:29 -0700
          Re: Another memo to web designers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-18 21:46 +0000
  Re: Another memo to web designers not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-19 00:04 +0000
    Re: Another memo to web designers Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-19 12:36 +1000
  Re: Another memo to web designers Miss Robot <miss.robot@lozza.ca> - 2019-06-21 11:49 -0400
    Re: Another memo to web designers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-21 16:59 +0000
    Re: Another memo to web designers not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-06-22 03:03 +0000
      Re: Another memo to web designers The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 23:06 -0700
    Re: Another memo to web designers Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-06-22 13:35 +1000
      Re: Another memo to web designers Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2019-06-23 11:19 +0100

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