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Re: boycott systemd

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On 2014-09-07, RS Wood wrote:
> Any distro that wants to avoid systemd is also making a decision to
> avoid Gnome3 though, as it's a hardcoded dependency (on purpose?).

This has been making me grateful that I run Gentoo, which lets you
use whatever you like.  I can trust that my distro will never force
it on me.

Of course, that doesn't stop programs from being absorbed by it.
Gnome is the most prominent example, but upower recently decided to
depend on systemd:

> 2014-06-03-upower-loses-hibernate-suspend-to-systemd
> Title UPower loses hibernate / suspend to systemd
> Author Samuli Suominen [email]
> Posted 2014-06-03
> Revision 1

> UPower discontinued hibernate and suspend support in favor of
> systemd. Because of this, we have created a compability package at
> sys-power/upower-pm-utils which will give you the old UPower with
> sys-power/pm-utils support back.
> 
> Some desktops have integrated the sys-power/pm-utils support
> directly to their code, like Xfce, and as a result, they work also
> with the new UPower as expected.
> ...

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boycott systemd Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-07 06:01 +0000
  Re: boycott systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-09-07 09:26 +0300
  Re: boycott systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-09-07 02:46 -0400
    Re: boycott systemd Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-07 06:52 +0000
      Re: boycott systemd RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-09-07 10:42 +0000
        Re: boycott systemd Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-09-07 14:26 +0000
          Re: boycott systemd RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-09-07 14:52 +0000
            Re: boycott systemd Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-07 19:47 +0000
              Re: boycott systemd Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-09-08 04:56 +0100
                Re: boycott systemd Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> - 2014-09-08 08:53 +0200
                Re: boycott systemd Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-08 11:02 +0000
                Re: boycott systemd Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> - 2014-09-08 13:17 +0200
                Re: boycott systemd RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-09-09 07:54 +0000
                Re: boycott systemd Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-09-09 16:39 +0000
                Re: boycott systemd Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> - 2014-09-09 19:03 +0200
            Re: boycott systemd Ben Collver <bencollver@devio.us> - 2014-09-08 01:41 +0000
        Re: boycott systemd "D.D." <xyzzy@inbox.com> - 2014-09-07 21:59 -0700

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