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Re: Federal judge rules U.S. no-fly list violates Constitution

From Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Federal judge rules U.S. no-fly list violates Constitution
Date 2014-06-26 05:36 +0000
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Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2014-06-24, Rich wrote:
> > http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/24/us-usa-noflylist-idUSKBN0EZ2EU20140624
> >
> >   The U.S. government's no-fly list banning people accused of links to
> >   terrorism from commercial flights violates their constitutional rights
> >   because it gives them no meaningful way to contest that decision, a
> >   federal judge ruled on Tuesday.
> >
> >   U.S. District Judge Anna Brown, ruling on a lawsuit filed in federal
> >   court in Oregon by 13 Muslim Americans who were branded with the no-fly
> >   status, ordered the government to come up with new procedures that
> >   allow people on the no-fly list to challenge that designation.
> >
> >   ...
> >

> Sounds good to me.  I don't like the idea of the no-fly list, though
> I'd be interested to hear arguments supporting it.  I fly several
> times a year, some for business and some for family visits.  Being
> banned from air travel would be devastating for me, and I certainly
> wouldn't wish that on anyone.

The "no-fly-list" is one of those things that result from the typical
politician mindset:

* we must do something
* this is something
* therefore we must do this

In a world with seven billion living individuals, it will never be
capable of ataining the desired results, and will only be capable of
obtaining the results it does obtain, which is 99.999% false positives.

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Federal judge rules U.S. no-fly list violates Constitution Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-24 22:21 +0000
  Re: Federal judge rules U.S. no-fly list violates Constitution Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-06-26 00:42 +0000
    Re: Federal judge rules U.S. no-fly list violates Constitution Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-26 05:36 +0000

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