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Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields

From Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields
Date 2014-06-02 18:31 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <lmiftb$gr6$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <lmhokh$2kb$1@dont-email.me> <6242#28221@usenet.squte.com> <lmi5du$15e$1@dont-email.me>

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Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> tdk <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:
>> >We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting. It could leave us  
>> >open to a "brute force" attack.
> 
>> It is of course ridiculous to think that brute forcing is done by  
>> copy-pasting (with JavaScript enabled!)
> 
> But it looks like some "web-security best practices seminar" somewhere
> has begun to "teach" that allowing pasting is a security issue.  The
> question is, how do we stop it before it grows too far?
> 
>> but a legitimate reason to force users to retype their password might
>> be so a single typo doesn't become part of it. They are much less
>> likely to mistype exactly the same way twice. This might be why some
>> sites allow pasting on login but not when entering a new password.
> 
> Not unreasonable, but if the password reset subsystem is sufficiently
> easy to use, also not really an issue to be too concerned about
> overall.
> 
>> I've never actually experienced this; I usually have JavaScript off
>> and use select + middle-click (on Linux) instead of ctrl-V
> 
> If you read down into the article, the blocking of paste operations is
> driven by javascript.  Without javascript turned on, pasting still
> works properly.

The stupidity is amazing, then again, I've had to deal with auditors
in the past, let's just say many of them are not that bright.

It's a PITA when you use a password manager that generates *strong* &
long passwords. Typing say 20 random characters blindly even once is a
challenge. So what they're in effect doing with their idiotic policy
is encouraging people to use short and/or weak passwords.

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The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:53 +0000
  Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-02 08:27 -0500
    Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:32 +0000
      Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-06-02 18:31 +0000
      Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-06-03 13:15 +1000
        Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-03 10:26 +0000
          Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-06-03 21:03 +1000
          Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-06-03 20:20 +0000
            Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-04 01:45 +0000
              Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-06-04 17:16 +1000
                Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-04 09:37 +0000
              Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-06-04 20:15 +0000
        Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-06-04 11:06 +0100
      Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-06-05 18:41 +0000
    Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-04 07:19 +0200
      Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-04 10:00 +0000
        Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2014-06-04 07:54 -0700
        Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-06-04 23:49 -0300
          Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-05 05:55 -0500
  Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2014-06-03 07:42 +0000
    Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-06-03 18:39 +0100
    Re: The "Cobra Effect" that is disabling paste on password fields scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-06-04 16:00 +0000

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