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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: The story of MSX computers in 1984 |
| Date | 2014-03-11 16:56 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <lfo7ra$3d6$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <20140311153651.24344420.rsw@therandymon.com> <lfns72$3aq$1@dont-email.me> <lfo4a4$kbm$1@dont-email.me> |
On 2014-03-11 22:56:04 +0000, Koen Lefever said: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:37:54 -0700, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > >> On 2014-03-11 15:36:51 +0000, RS Wood said: >> >>> From the 'If it's got an X in the name it's cool' department: >>> >>> http://www.dvorak.org/blog/whatever-happened-to-msx-computers/ >>> >>> Not too many people will recall the short-lived era of the > “MSX†>>> initiative which was slated to pretty much take over the non-existent >>> middle world where consumer electronics met personal computers. It was >>> always believed, back then, that this is where the sweet spot of >>> profits would emerge. What emerged was instead laughable MSX. It was >>> one of Microsoft’s greatest flops. >>> >>> ... [major snippage] ... >>> >>> In February of 1990 one of the last hold outs for MSX, Sony >>> Corporation, gave up on supporting MSX and moved into production of AX >>> computers (another dead-end) and mini-notebook machines. Only Panasonic >>> continued to make an MSX-II Turbo machine. Sanyo also stayed in the >>> consortium to no avail >>> >>> The story of MSX – if it is ever remembered — might eventually > be a >>> Harvard Business School case study. The entire episode proves that >>> popularizing a new standard is not a trivial pursuit." >> >> While MSX machines were very rare stateside, they were probably the most >> popular platform in Japan for about a decade. The problem that MSX >> faced here in the USA was that Microsoft was pushing DOS for everything, >> and even finding an advertisement for MSX in the USA is difficult. >> >> Back then there were several competing computer platforms in Japan which >> were almost never seen stateside - MSX, Sharp's X1 and later X68000, the >> Fujitsu Fm series, and the NEC PC-8801s. They are sought by collectors >> these days, not only for the rarity of the hardware but also because >> these platforms had many many games. >> >> I have to say, as usual, that Dvorak missed the point. MSX failed in >> the USA and Canada, but it made a lot of companies a lot of money in >> Japan and Brazil. >> >> He can't be blamed entirely for his journalistic error, though. Most >> people are not aware of the variety of Japanese home computers because >> they never had a chance to see them. > > In Europe, MSX had some limited success for a very short period due to > the Philips VG-8000 series: > > http://www.msx.org/wiki/Category:Philips > > In 1984, a Z80A computer was too little too late. Commodore 64 was still > going strong in the 8-bit segment. Some IBM-PC clones, notably the Sanyo > MBC-550 and some "White PCs" (machines without a brand), were already > affordable to home users. A year later in 1985, the Atari ST and the > Commodore Amiga brought M68000 power in reach for home users and killed > the MSX market. It's interesting that the Amiga and ST never made much headway in the states. I only knew one person with an Amiga back in those days, and I have still never seen an ST in real life. Almost everybody I knew had a Commodore 64, an Apple II of some flavor, some type of IBM or clone, or a Macintosh. I went to a special magnet middle school for computers and technology so my peers were all pretty computer-savvy and so were their parents. I do agree that, in the USA and perhaps Europe, a Z80 was a bit wimpy for the time frame (certainly by the late 80s) but in Japan these MSX boxes seem to have been the predominant computer, with Microsoft's DOS/V struggling to catch on even after the MSX was almost a decade old. Let's not even get into the sad demise of the British computers of the 80s!
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The story of MSX computers in 1984 RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-11 15:36 +0000
Re: The story of MSX computers in 1984 Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-11 13:37 -0700
Re: The story of MSX computers in 1984 Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 22:56 +0000
Re: The story of MSX computers in 1984 Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-11 16:56 -0700
Re: The story of MSX computers in 1984 Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2014-03-12 02:33 +0000
Re: The story of MSX computers in 1984 Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-11 23:05 -0700
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