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Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage

From despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen)
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage
Date 2014-05-05 09:14 -0400
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Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:

> On 2014-05-05, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-05-05, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-04, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> that kind of density, one small data cartridge can hold a monumental 185TB of
>>>> data, 
>>>
>>> Kewl.  Just think how much data you can lose at one go.
>>>
>>
>> Isn't that the case for any storage technology though?  Burn to CDs -
>> disks degrade; you lose data.  Offload to a NAS - even with a fancy RAID
>> system, what if the device catches fire? Lose a terabyte.  Etc.
>
> Tapes are much less reliable than any other storage medium I've ever come
> across. They're also slow. Their one advantage is cheapness. I'd certainly
> never rely on a single tape to back anything up.

Tape is probably not for personal use, certainly not these monster tapes.

A tape holding 185TB is probably going to be writing that data pretty
damn fast.

I haven't intentionally used a tape in years, but you back up
transaction data and father/grandfather/son.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_rotation_scheme

The 3 level backup scheme works.  I once saw the primary backup
fail and had to work with operations to go back a generation,
re-run the transactions, etc.  We'd never tested it before and
there were a lot of doomsayers, but it worked.  This wasn't tape
though it was those 8 inch diskettes in a magazine.
(IBM System 34.)

-- 
Dan Espen

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Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-04 21:38 +0000
  Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-05 09:54 +0000
    Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-05 11:35 +0000
      Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-05 11:44 +0000
        Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) - 2014-05-05 09:14 -0400
          Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-05 21:20 +0000
            Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-07 07:09 +0000
              Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-10 16:28 +0200
          Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-10 16:22 +0200
        Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-10 16:00 +0200
        Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-11 16:12 +0000
    Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-10 15:52 +0200
      Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-11 16:14 +0000
        Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-11 18:29 +0100
  Re: Sony's massive engineering improvement in tape storage Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-05-05 15:22 +0100

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