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Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past

From despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen)
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past
Date 2014-04-30 10:13 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> writes:

> In article <icfvkvoqxi.fsf@home.home>, Dan.Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:15:44 -0400
>>> despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) wrote:
>>>
>>>> With Fvwm2 you get a bit more control.
>>>> Up to 10 buttons, images, vectors, mini-icons, etc for each
>>>> button.  Different appearance for 4 states.
>>>> 
>>>> Then the action you bind to each button can be just about
>>>> anything and can vary depending on the mouse button you click with,
>>>> and separate actions for single/double/triple click.
>>>> 
>>>> A single letter would never do.
>>>
>>> You just reminded me of something: I was experimenting with vtwm one
>>> day, and was googling around for some good examples of twmrc files,
>>> which led me to fvwmrc files, which took me to your web page. (or the
>>> web page of some other guy with your name who also seems to like
>>> fvwm) :)
>>
>>I started with vtwm.
>>
>>I've been doing little bits of fvwm development for years.
>
> I used fvwm on Sun Sparcstations early/mid 90's, then under Linux for a
> very long time, then fvwm2 - never really changing anything much. Then
> an upgrade or 2 ago, fvwm2 seemed "broken" under Debian, so I moved
> to xfce4...

Switched from fvwm to fvwm2 as soon as fvwm2 became available.
There was a buggy fvwm2 in circulation for a while longer than normal
while we tracked down the problem.  Current versions should be okay now. 

> Recently I gave Gnome3 a go under Debian - The main reason being that
> wifey wanted something that wasn't xfce4 - she wanted some nicer eye
> candy and things that "just worked" in a better "just work" sort of way -
> so Gnome3 it was.
>
> It's far from perfect though - I'm considering going back to xfce4 or even
> back to super whizzy fast, low memory fvwm2 as Gnome 3 frequently needs
> restarting, occasionally crashes and has so much bloat attached into it,
> it's no-longer the nice little understandable Linux system I used to have.
> (But I feel I need to support my wife and stop her going to the horrors
> of Win 8 which I'm sure would frustrate her even more)
>
> Youngsters tell me I'm living in the past, but now reading that the
> next Gnome3 requires systemd and that Debian will have it in too, I'm
> starting to wonder. 4GB of RAM doesn't seem enough for a desktop system
> anymore - one that just does programming (in xterms using makefiles)
> some email (using alpine) and web browsing (firefox)

Got 2GB in here now.  Way more than I need.

-- 
Dan Espen

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Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-18 14:16 +0000
  Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-04-25 00:12 -0300
  Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-25 05:16 +0000
    Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-28 15:14 +0000
      Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-28 18:19 +0300
        Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-04-28 16:51 +0000
        Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-04-28 18:23 -0300
        Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-04-28 17:41 -0700
        Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 04:07 +0000
          Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-29 07:25 +0300
            Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) - 2014-04-29 10:15 -0400
              Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-29 17:25 +0000
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) - 2014-04-29 15:51 -0400
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2014-04-30 09:30 +0000
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) - 2014-04-30 10:13 -0400
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Rich <rich@example.com> - 2014-04-30 20:26 +0000
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) - 2014-04-30 22:33 -0400
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Rich <rich@example.com> - 2014-05-01 02:52 +0000
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2014-05-01 08:06 +0100
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-01 19:44 +0100
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Andreas Karrer <ak-4a@gmx.ch> - 2014-05-01 09:23 +0000
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-01 16:38 +0300
                Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) - 2014-05-01 12:26 -0400
      Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2014-04-28 15:47 +0000
        Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-04-29 01:10 -0300
      Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-04-28 16:50 +0000
      Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-29 04:06 +0000
        Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-04-30 21:19 +0000
          Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-01 19:54 +0100
      Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-04-29 16:44 +0300
  Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-01 21:06 +0000
    Re: Gnome 3: it's time to let go of the past Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2014-05-02 01:49 +0000

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