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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords |
| Date | 2019-06-11 18:21 +0000 |
| Organization | Piglet's Pickles & Preserves |
| Message-ID | <gma9ojFht61U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <MlpB1YKRhgDPsuv1m3oW7DKj@dont-email.me> <gm90qvF97g1U1@mid.individual.net> <qdonqh$f3g$1@dont-email.me> |
On 2019-06-11, Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2019 1:42 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> Why did this take so long? Why did so many people think it was a good
>> idea to force password changes?
>
> My thought was that it dated back to logging in to a command line (as
> described in Clifford Stoll's book, "The Cuckoo's Egg") vs. a web page.
> A hacker then had access to explore the system as long as no changes
> were made that would cause them to be detected. Changing the password
> would limit this exploration time.
On a Unix system, once you're logged on, changing the logon password makes
no difference whatsoever (unless the user tries to use a tool which re-reads
the password, e.g. sudo).
Not sure your web analogy is very good, either.
--
Today is Boomtime, the 16th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3185
Rising above bedlam
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[Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-02 21:55 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-06-03 20:28 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-03 20:35 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-06-09 09:10 -0400
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-09 14:22 +0100
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-09 14:39 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-06-09 20:33 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-06-10 11:22 -0500
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> - 2019-06-10 11:42 -0500
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-10 18:05 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-10 22:28 +0100
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-06-11 16:42 +1000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-11 09:39 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-06-11 20:29 +1000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-11 11:01 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-06-11 17:18 -0300
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-06-12 00:04 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-06-12 01:49 -0300
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-12 08:49 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-12 08:57 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2019-06-11 17:57 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-11 18:05 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-11 21:08 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-06-12 00:10 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-12 08:50 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-11 11:03 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-06-11 21:55 +1000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-11 15:30 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-06-11 17:43 -0300
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-12 08:58 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-06-11 21:14 -0400
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-12 08:52 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-06-15 11:45 +1000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-06-15 15:46 -0400
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> - 2019-06-11 12:19 -0500
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-06-11 18:21 +0000
Re: [Link Posting] Password expiration is dead, long live your passwords kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-06-11 21:12 -0400
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