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Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it).

From Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it).
Date 2017-02-27 20:29 -0600
Organization Yeah, right.
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On 2/27/2017 11:45, Michael Black wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, Rich wrote:
>> Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> WHY?  WHY!?  WHY!!????!??
>>> Why do page designers pollute the page cache (or what ever you call it)
>>> so that when a person trying to do use do useful work and back out of a
>>> dead end by using the "back arrow" button, the same page loads?
>>
>> Usually it is simple incompetence.
>>
>> This is often caused by using Javascript onclick handlers to do "links"
>> (even though HTML has a perfectly good link tag in the <a> tag) and
>> unless they also go to extra effort to update the back button records
>> from the javascript code, you get a broken back button.
>>
>> But the "cache" has nothing to do with it.  The back button is not a
>> "go back in the cache" button.  It is just a list of all the past URL
>> links you clicked upon in that tab/window.

Good to know for those of us who honor Truth, but functionally, when in 
{USERMODE}, it is functionally a distinction without a difference.

>>> I am abut to declare such pages to be "malware" and block them.
>>
>> They are, and skipping them is often the only recourse, given that many
>> have no one competent creating them in the first place.
>>
> I've yet to find one of value.  One reason you notice the back button
> isn't working is because you realize you aren't interested, and try to
> get back from where you came.

In my case, I run across it most frequently in respected blogs, where in 
the reading of a well-researched article I encounter a foot-note-like or 
parenthetical comment (or even a genuine foot note).
It is a facility that should be a vast improvement over the old way 
where a stack of books and magazines and a flurry of sticky notes form a 
crumb-like back trail that fails badly if there are many forks involved.

> If it was an interesting page, you might get lost in the content, and
> then when you want to move on, just move to another site.  But when the
> content is bad, the immediate reaction is to go back to where you came,
> after all, you were only curious about the site.

Or, as I have indicated, the content is good, but deeply nested.

There is a way of managing this, but it is an unholy recoures to the 
stack of documents-and-sticky-notes technique of old--invoked by 
remembering to NEVER "click" on a link, but rather to always (in 
Firefox™, anyway) "right click and select 'open in new tab'".

-- 
quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
-- Juvenal

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Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 01:47 -0600
  Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2017-02-27 10:48 +0100
    Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2017-02-27 21:08 +0000
  Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2017-02-27 09:49 +0000
  Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-02-27 10:50 +0000
    Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-02-27 12:45 -0500
      Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 20:29 -0600
        Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-02-28 03:34 +0000
          Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Pham Nuwen <phamnuwen@example.com> - 2017-02-28 08:41 -0800
            Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2017-03-03 21:55 +0000
              Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2017-03-14 16:49 +0000
    Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 12:00 -0500
      Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-16 18:09 +0000
        Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 13:53 -0500
          Re: Web design, page cache (or what ever you call it). Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-16 18:58 +0000

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