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Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network

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Lewis wrote:
> Mike Easter

>> I don't think his arguments /for/ opening his network are at all
>> persuasive. He says "To me, it's basic politeness. Providing
>> internet access to guests is kind of like providing heat and
>> electricity, or a hot cup of tea."
>
> That's always been my attitude.
>
>> The provision of access to house guests is not the same as
>> 'permanent'/continuous provision of access to anyone in the
>> neighborhood/ wifi range. My belief is that he has a responsibility
>> to secure his network access limited to his family and his invited
>> house guests (who he has also 'invited' to share his network
>> access, but not any of those he has not).
>
> I (and he) disagree.

The essays which Schneier links which support his argument say:

  - the first linked, who has greater experience than Schneier in terms 
of countries and locations says that he has never encountered the 
risks/disadvantages which Schneier lists, and he says his personal 
motivation is "the more open wireless I provide to the world, the more 
people I'll turn on to providing their own open wireless access, and the 
more open WiFi I'm likely to find." I find that a trivial, 
short-sighted, and ineffective argument.

  - the second supporting article's major argument is that opening your 
network isn't that much of a risk.  To me, that isn't really the point, 
the risk.  The point is something different from the risk.  Maybe 
Schneier and his supporters don't get it; my point.

  - the third supporting article says his arguments are different from 
Schneier's.  Oh good.  Maybe he has something.  He says his setup is 
harder to use than Schneier's.  "I don't have a DHCP server running, so 
anyone who wants to use my wireless needs to configure a static address 
on the correct subnet. I'm happy to do this for guests who don't know 
how, but drive-bys are strictly on the do-it-yourself system."


Well that 3rd one is certainly a quaint solution, but maybe it is more 
supportive/ in-line/ of my argument about allowing invited guests into 
my home which includes internet access than providing a wide-open-door 
to the internet for anyone within range of the wifi signal.



-- 
Mike Easter

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Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-20 12:33 +0000
  Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-05-20 07:07 -0700
    Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-20 16:58 +0000
    Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 21:56 +0000
      Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-05-20 15:44 -0700
  Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-21 09:09 +0200
    Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-21 18:58 +0000

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