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Re: Old Calculator Web Museum

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On 2017-12-03, Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
> On 02/12/2017 08:59, Paul Sture wrote:
>> On 2017-12-02, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> Yes it was very enjoyable.  I also used to enjoy The Telegraph newspaper
>> (telegraph.co.uk) for its cross references; if you picked an article
>> involving an eveny in, say, Peru, which as a country doesn't get much
>> coverage in the Western press it would provide links to all other
>> Telegraph articles about Peru.  I'd never really understood the concept
>> of "web surfing" before discovering that, and here it was, crossing
>> subject boundaries in a way which really did expand your horizons.
>> 
>> Sadly that system of links got dropped with a rewrite of the web site.
>> They even had a good article at the time about how the rewrite improved
>> the journalists' workflow.  Sadly behind a paywall now, but those links
>> sections had already gone.
>
> One thing I find odd, given how simple it would be to implement 
> technically, is news sites that include links to previous items on a 
> story but they don't update the old articles with the forward link to 
> the new one.
>
> For example, a story about a car crash might start with the actual 
> crash; then a day later name the injured parties; and perhaps a few 
> weeks later include some coverage of a court case.
>
> If you search and find a now historical item about a crash, it's often 
> very hard to find out whether any court action took place, for example.

That's a good example.  It leaves you wanting more, without any clues
how to get there.

>>>> This new corporate www is boring by comparison.
>>>
>>> This web's sole purpose is to monetize you in whatever way possible.
>> 
>> I had this just the other day.  I was searching for firmware updates
>> for a new bit of kit, but all I was getting was more adverts for the
>> same kit:
>> 
>> a) I'm not the least bit interested in buying another until I've
>>     got the current one working and have had some time to see if
>>     it lives up to its promises
>> 
>
> That's because Google^W the adslinger gets paid to show the 'product X' 
> ad to anyone who has expressed an interest in 'product X'. The fact that 
> their algorithms mark you as interested in 'product X' because you have 
> already bought one is of no matter to them - it meets the T&C's it has 
> agreed with the company that wants their advert shown so the the advert 
> is shown.

DuckDuckGo in my case, but point taken.  I probably stick out like a
sore thumb via some combination of IP address geolocation, using a
Mac and using English as my default language (I live in a German
speaking area).

> I'm fairly sure this kind of behaviour annoys the people paying for 
> their adverts to be shown just as much as it annoys you.

I imagine it will prompt some folks to go back and review a product
they have bought, so perhaps not all is a waste.

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  Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Batchman <batchman@dosville.foo> - 2017-12-02 10:21 +1100
  Re: Old Calculator Web Museum RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-12-02 02:16 +0000
    Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-12-02 03:14 +0000
      Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-02 09:59 +0100
        Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2017-12-03 23:51 +0000
          Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-12-04 00:26 +0000
            Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-06 06:22 +0100
              Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-12-06 11:17 +0000
          Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-06 06:32 +0100
  Re: Old Calculator Web Museum Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-12-02 10:50 +0000
  Re: Old Calculator Web Museum philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2017-12-14 18:41 -0600

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