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  Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-11-05 07:16 -0500
    Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed Darren Chen <ccylily1314@gmail.com> - 2014-11-06 22:50 -0800
      Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed cl@isbd.net - 2014-11-07 09:36 +0000
        Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2014-11-07 12:17 +0000
          Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-11-07 07:42 -0500
            Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-07 23:52 +1100
              Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-11-07 08:03 -0500
          Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2014-11-07 10:03 -0500

#80263 — Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Ivan Evstegneev <webmailgroups@gmail.com> wrote:
> Firtst of all thanks for reply.
>
>>>brackets [] means that the argument is optional.
>
> That's what I'm talking about (asking actually), where do you know it from?

I know it because I've been a programmer for 39 years.

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#80351

在 2014年11月5日星期三UTC+8下午8时17分11秒，Larry....@gmail.com写道：
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Ivan Evstegneev <webmailgroups@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Firtst of all thanks for reply.
> >
> >>>brackets [] means that the argument is optional.
> >
> > That's what I'm talking about (asking actually), where do you know it from?
> 
> I know it because I've been a programmer for 39 years.

that's awesome！！

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#80356

Darren Chen <ccylily1314@gmail.com> wrote:
> 在 2014年11月5日星期三UTC+8下午8时17分11秒，Larry....@gmail.com写道：
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Ivan Evstegneev <webmailgroups@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Firtst of all thanks for reply.
> > >
> > >>>brackets [] means that the argument is optional.
> > >
> > > That's what I'm talking about (asking actually), where do you know it from?
> > 
> > I know it because I've been a programmer for 39 years.
> 
> that's awesome！！

Well I started in 1971 or thereabouts.

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#80357

in 730867 20141107 093651 cl@isbd.net wrote:
>Darren Chen <ccylily1314@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 在 2014年11月5日星期三UTC+8下午8时17分11秒，Larry....@gmail.com写道：
>> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Ivan Evstegneev <webmailgroups@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Firtst of all thanks for reply.
>> > >
>> > >>>brackets [] means that the argument is optional.
>> > >
>> > > That's what I'm talking about (asking actually), where do you know it from?
>> >
>> > I know it because I've been a programmer for 39 years.
>>
>> that's awesome！！
>
>Well I started in 1971 or thereabouts.

1959 for me ;-)

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#80359

Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> Wrote in message:
> in 730867 20141107 093651 cl@isbd.net wrote:
>>Darren Chen <ccylily1314@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 在 2014年11月5日星期三UTC+8下午8时17分11秒，Larry....@gmail.com写道：
>>> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Ivan Evstegneev <webmailgroups@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > Firtst of all thanks for reply.
>>> > >
>>> > >>>brackets [] means that the argument is optional.
>>> > >
>>> > > That's what I'm talking about (asking actually), where do you know it from?
>>> >
>>> > I know it because I've been a programmer for 39 years.
>>>
>>> that's awesome！！
>>
>>Well I started in 1971 or thereabouts.
> 
> 1959 for me ;-)
> 

Approximately 1968 for me. I wrote programs in 1967, but didn't
 get to run them till 1968.
-- 
DaveA

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#80360

Dave Angel wrote:

> Approximately 1968 for me. I wrote programs in 1967, but didn't
>  get to run them till 1968.


I once used a compiler that slow too.



-- 
Steven

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#80362

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> Dave Angel wrote:
>
>> Approximately 1968 for me. I wrote programs in 1967, but didn't
>>  get to run them till 1968.
>
>
> I once used a compiler that slow too.

Yeah, I think it was made by Intermetrics. Or maybe Borland.

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#80363

On Nov 7, 2014, at 7:42 AM, Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> wrote:
> 
> Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> Wrote in message:
>> in 730867 20141107 093651 cl@isbd.net wrote:
>>> Darren Chen <ccylily1314@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 在 2014年11月5日星期三UTC+8下午8时17分11秒，Larry....@gmail.com写道：
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Ivan Evstegneev <webmailgroups@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Firtst of all thanks for reply.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> brackets [] means that the argument is optional.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's what I'm talking about (asking actually), where do you know it from?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know it because I've been a programmer for 39 years.
>>>> 

But, to get back to the OP’s original question.  The earliest manuals that I remember looking at (from DEC, remember them) all had sections in the front that listed the typological conventions used throughout the manual.  Those included the use of square brackets to indicate optional arguments.  Eventually some of those conventions, including [ ] and the use of a fixed width font to indicate screen output, became so wide spread as to be simply part of the cultural context.  

A fair number of “Introduction to . . .” programming books still have such a section.

Bill

>>>> that's awesome！！
>>> 
>>> Well I started in 1971 or thereabouts.
>> 
>> 1959 for me ;-)
>> 
> 
> Approximately 1968 for me. I wrote programs in 1967, but didn't
> get to run them till 1968.
> -- 
> DaveA
> 
> -- 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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