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| Started by | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
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| First post | 2014-10-22 16:30 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-10-25 22:15 +0000 |
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I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 16:30 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2014-10-22 16:57 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 17:04 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2014-10-22 14:35 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 17:38 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-22 22:28 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 18:30 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 18:32 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-22 23:55 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 19:26 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-23 00:44 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 20:02 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-10-23 02:29 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 11:37 +1000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 21:52 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-22 19:58 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 23:05 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-22 20:16 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-10-23 02:31 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-10-23 00:09 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-23 00:10 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-23 09:23 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 10:00 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-23 20:23 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 09:53 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 09:15 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 10:04 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 15:55 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 13:01 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 13:07 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 13:39 -0600
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 16:15 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 16:44 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-10-23 22:03 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-23 19:13 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-10-23 23:14 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 14:32 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 21:56 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 10:38 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 01:51 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 11:04 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 02:13 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 08:56 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 10:35 -0600
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 10:10 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 12:37 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 03:47 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 09:56 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 13:03 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists "Albert Visser" <albert.visser@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 19:18 +0200
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 13:23 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 10:42 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 13:42 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 11:52 -0600
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 14:15 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 14:20 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-24 19:40 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 15:07 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 21:49 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-24 23:46 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 08:17 -0600
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-25 14:47 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2014-10-24 11:57 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 15:09 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2014-10-24 12:25 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 15:33 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2014-10-24 12:55 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 16:00 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 21:19 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 17:35 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 23:23 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-25 14:37 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-24 19:33 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 09:54 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 13:04 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 10:17 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-10-24 18:09 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:27 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 16:01 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-10-24 20:27 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 20:42 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 11:05 -0600
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 04:10 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-24 23:04 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 20:37 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 16:58 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-10-24 21:07 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 15:11 -0600
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 23:21 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 19:48 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 21:48 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:14 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-25 15:01 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 20:51 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-24 19:16 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 22:41 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-25 08:25 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-25 15:10 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-25 14:23 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-25 14:42 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-10-25 18:48 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-26 00:25 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-26 01:08 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-10-26 17:44 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-10-26 20:57 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-22 22:43 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 19:11 -0400
The “trials” in “trial and error” should be as simple as possible (was: I am out of trial and error again Lists) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-10-23 10:59 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-10-23 11:05 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 20:10 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-10-23 02:31 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 21:35 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-22 21:57 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-23 08:20 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 10:01 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 01:56 -0600
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-23 09:09 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 06:42 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 10:03 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 08:35 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> - 2014-10-23 16:25 +0200
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 10:29 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 16:00 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> - 2014-10-23 16:40 +0200
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-23 10:46 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> - 2014-10-24 17:56 +0200
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-23 09:21 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-10-23 07:51 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-24 08:05 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 10:47 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2014-10-24 22:06 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-24 09:12 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 10:48 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:26 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:58 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 16:27 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 19:48 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 19:57 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-10-25 01:20 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 20:37 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2014-10-25 11:52 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 20:46 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 21:09 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-10-25 15:25 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 22:40 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 16:49 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 22:55 -0700
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 17:03 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-10-25 18:44 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 10:24 -0700
Side-effects [was Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-10-26 17:12 +1100
Re: Side-effects [was Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-26 17:42 +1100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> - 2014-10-27 22:26 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-25 00:27 +0100
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 23:35 +0000
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-24 20:15 -0400
Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-25 22:15 +0000
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| From | giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-10-23 16:25 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists |
| Message-ID | <8738aehnhj.fsf@pascolo.net> |
| In reply to | #79514 |
Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes: > [As best as I can make out the OP is not using the standalone > interpreter > nor idle > nor (the many options like) python-interpreter-inside-emacs > nor ipython > nor ... but CodeSkulptor <http://www.codeskulptor.org/>] CodeSkulptor has been mentioned recently by S4H, and he had explained why he uses CodeSkulptor, but I cannot remember anything of the explanation... -- > Sarebbe ora gli scienziati italiani mostrassero un po' i coglioni si`, vabbe`, ma a chi? -- PLS, in IFQ
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-23 10:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists |
| Message-ID | <pu3i4ah4ii1hq7ce148895amvdkmn8oskr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79522 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:25:28 +0200, giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> wrote: >Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes: > >> [As best as I can make out the OP is not using the standalone >> interpreter >> nor idle >> nor (the many options like) python-interpreter-inside-emacs >> nor ipython >> nor ... > >but CodeSkulptor <http://www.codeskulptor.org/>] > >CodeSkulptor has been mentioned recently by S4H, and he had explained >why he uses CodeSkulptor, but I cannot remember anything of the explanation... They are using it in the online course I am taking An Introduction to Interactive Programming in Python https://www.coursera.org/ It is clumsy and it is not compatible with Python3, but it is free. 3 more weeks.
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-23 16:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists |
| Message-ID | <m2b8mu$u0g$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79522 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:25:28 +0200, giacomo boffi wrote: > Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes: > >> [As best as I can make out the OP is not using the standalone >> interpreter nor idle nor (the many options like) >> python-interpreter-inside-emacs nor ipython nor ... > > but CodeSkulptor <http://www.codeskulptor.org/>] > > CodeSkulptor has been mentioned recently by S4H, and he had explained > why he uses CodeSkulptor, but I cannot remember anything of the > explanation... CodeSkulptor is a tool used by a group of instructors at RICE to teach an on-line python programming course in a web browser environment. It may be a python IDE and interpreter implemented in HTML, CSS and javascript, I'm not sure. IO is handled by a package called simplegui, and I believe there's a wrapper for tkinter that presents simplegui if you want to run code written for codeskulptor outside of the codeskulptor environment. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com
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| From | giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-10-23 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87y4s6g889.fsf@pascolo.net> |
| In reply to | #79494 |
Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> writes: > Because most of the practice I am getting is not using Python. I > use Codeskulptor. Seymore, it's been months that you're struggling with python, if you happen to own a computer could you please take the time to install python on it and familiarise with the interactive interpreter? I'll see that as a personal favor. If you have to hand in assignments using codeskulptor or are in any other way bound by your institution to use that service you could anyway use the interactive interpreter on your pc, applying the debugging and self-learning techniques that were shown to you, in many different circumstances, by the very, very helpful folks of clp. thank you for your attention
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-23 10:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <725i4altu8gl3pdkhgb5tpej9dr254t1cn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79525 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:40:22 +0200, giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> wrote: >Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> writes: > >> Because most of the practice I am getting is not using Python. I >> use Codeskulptor. > >Seymore, > >it's been months that you're struggling with python, if you happen to >own a computer could you please take the time to install python on it >and familiarise with the interactive interpreter? I'll see that as a >personal favor. If you have to hand in assignments using codeskulptor >or are in any other way bound by your institution to use that service >you could anyway use the interactive interpreter on your pc, applying >the debugging and self-learning techniques that were shown to you, in >many different circumstances, by the very, very helpful folks of clp. > >thank you for your attention I have Python installed. I will learn the interpreter. I also acknowledge there are very, very helpful folks here. Thanks
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| From | giacomo boffi <pecore@pascolo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 17:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87vbn9bgw7.fsf@pascolo.net> |
| In reply to | #79525 |
ERRATA CORRIGE: > many different circumstances, by the very, very helpful folks of clp. many different circumstances, by the very, very helpful folks of clpy -- sapete contare fino a venticinque? Olimpia Milano Jugoplastika Split Partizan Beograd Roberto Premier Duska Ivanovic Zarko Paspalj
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-23 09:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m2ahb7$bjt$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79481 |
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:11:51 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:43:14 +0000 (UTC), Denis McMahon > <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:30:37 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote: >> >>> def nametonumber(name): >>> lst=[""] >>> for x,y in enumerate (name): >>> lst=lst.append(y) >>> print (lst) >>> return (lst) >>> a=["1-800-getcharter"] >>> print (nametonumber(a))#18004382427837 >>> >>> >>> The syntax for when to use a () and when to use [] still throws me a >>> curve. >>> >>> For now, I am trying to end up with a list that has each character in >>> "a" as a single item. >>> >>> I get: >>> None None >> >>First of all, an empty list is created with: >> >>emptylist = [] >> >>whereas >> >>x = [""] >> >>creates a list containing one element, that element being an empty >>string. Not the same thing! >> >>Did you try stepping through your code line by line in the interpreter >>to see what happened at each step? >> >>note that append is a method of a list object, it has no return value, >>the original list is modified in place. >> >>>>> l = ["a","b","c"] # declare a list l.append( "d" ) # use the >>>>> append method l # show the list >>['a', 'b', 'c', 'd'] >> >>So your line: >> >>lst = lst.append(y) >> >>should be: >> >>lst.append(y) >> >>Finally, did you really intend to pass a single element list into the >>function, or did you intend to pass a string into the function? >> > Those string errors were desperate attempts to fix the "append" error I > didn't understand. If you don't understand the error, that is the point that you should ask for help, rather than make stab in the dark attempts to fix it and then asking why the solutions don't work. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com
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| From | Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-10-23 07:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <zB82w.433840$Wc7.52566@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #79469 |
On 10/22/2014 01:30 PM, Seymore4Head wrote: > def nametonumber(name): > lst=[""] > for x,y in enumerate (name): > lst=lst.append(y) > print (lst) > return (lst) > a=["1-800-getcharter"] > print (nametonumber(a))#18004382427837 > > > The syntax for when to use a () and when to use [] still throws me a > curve. > > For now, I am trying to end up with a list that has each character in > "a" as a single item. >>> a = "1-800-getcharter" >>> list(a) ['1', '-', '8', '0', '0', '-', 'g', 'e', 't', 'c', 'h', 'a', 'r', 't', 'e', 'r'] >>>
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 08:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.15123.1414134314.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #79469 |
On 22/10/2014 21:30, Seymore4Head wrote: > def nametonumber(name): > lst=[""] > for x,y in enumerate (name): > lst=lst.append(y) > print (lst) > return (lst) > a=["1-800-getcharter"] > print (nametonumber(a))#18004382427837 > > > The syntax for when to use a () and when to use [] still throws me a > curve. > > For now, I am trying to end up with a list that has each character in > "a" as a single item. > > I get: > None > None > Following on from the numerous responses you've had here, I've no idea if this helps your thought processes but there's only one way for you to find out http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 10:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ofpk4a15tpuhv71bhpkuipe69p2tegad2m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79559 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:05:01 +0100, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >On 22/10/2014 21:30, Seymore4Head wrote: >> def nametonumber(name): >> lst=[""] >> for x,y in enumerate (name): >> lst=lst.append(y) >> print (lst) >> return (lst) >> a=["1-800-getcharter"] >> print (nametonumber(a))#18004382427837 >> >> >> The syntax for when to use a () and when to use [] still throws me a >> curve. >> >> For now, I am trying to end up with a list that has each character in >> "a" as a single item. >> >> I get: >> None >> None >> > >Following on from the numerous responses you've had here, I've no idea >if this helps your thought processes but there's only one way for you to >find out http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ :) I have at least 10 ebooks. I will get around to reading them soon. http://i.imgur.com/rpOcKP8.jpg Thanks
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| From | mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 22:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4bz2w.756033$ZX5.542327@fx32.am4> |
| In reply to | #79570 |
On 24/10/2014 15:47, Seymore4Head wrote: > I have at least 10 ebooks. I will get around to reading them soon. Sooner would be better.
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 09:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.15125.1414138362.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #79469 |
On 24/10/2014 08:05, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 22/10/2014 21:30, Seymore4Head wrote: >> def nametonumber(name): >> lst=[""] >> for x,y in enumerate (name): >> lst=lst.append(y) >> print (lst) >> return (lst) >> a=["1-800-getcharter"] >> print (nametonumber(a))#18004382427837 >> >> >> The syntax for when to use a () and when to use [] still throws me a >> curve. >> >> For now, I am trying to end up with a list that has each character in >> "a" as a single item. >> >> I get: >> None >> None >> > > Following on from the numerous responses you've had here, I've no idea > if this helps your thought processes but there's only one way for you to > find out http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ :) > And another http://tinyurl.com/k26vjhr -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 10:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <skpk4a1i3voi33j48eo467jah0laba3jej@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79562 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:12:28 +0100, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >On 24/10/2014 08:05, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 22/10/2014 21:30, Seymore4Head wrote: >>> def nametonumber(name): >>> lst=[""] >>> for x,y in enumerate (name): >>> lst=lst.append(y) >>> print (lst) >>> return (lst) >>> a=["1-800-getcharter"] >>> print (nametonumber(a))#18004382427837 >>> >>> >>> The syntax for when to use a () and when to use [] still throws me a >>> curve. >>> >>> For now, I am trying to end up with a list that has each character in >>> "a" as a single item. >>> >>> I get: >>> None >>> None >>> >> >> Following on from the numerous responses you've had here, I've no idea >> if this helps your thought processes but there's only one way for you to >> find out http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ :) >> > >And another http://tinyurl.com/k26vjhr Google. I have heard of that. :)
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 18:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <39kl4algu6ddgs2bsev3vlf9md9blmfdpm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79469 |
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:30:37 -0400, Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> wrote: Thanks for all the helpful replies. I just discovered that there is something wrong with my news feed. Some of the messages did not make it to me. I can go back and read this thread in Google Groups but I can't reply to it. If I missed thanking or replying to anyone, that is the reason. Thanks again
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 18:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mcll4adnnt307a37p03dlhqq9bmskf2qll@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79469 |
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:30:37 -0400, Seymore4Head
<Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> wrote:
name="123-xyz-abc"
a=range(10)
b=list(range(10))
c=str(list(range(10)))
print ("a",(a))
print ("b",(b))
print ("c",(c))
for x in name:
if x in a:
print ("a",(x))
if x in b:
print ("b",(x))
if x in c:
print ("c",(x))
B is type list and C is type str.
I guess I am still a little too thick. I would expect b and c to
work.
http://i.imgur.com/dT3sEQq.jpg
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| From | Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-24 16:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <185ea3d5-71d3-4009-8afe-4f0c2b6bbf30@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #79627 |
On Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:30:47 AM UTC+5:30, Seymore4Head wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:30:37 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote:
>
> name="123-xyz-abc"
> a=range(10)
> b=list(range(10))
> c=str(list(range(10)))
> print ("a",(a))
> print ("b",(b))
> print ("c",(c))
>
> for x in name:
> if x in a:
> print ("a",(x))
> if x in b:
> print ("b",(x))
> if x in c:
> print ("c",(x))
>
> B is type list and C is type str.
> I guess I am still a little too thick. I would expect b and c to
> work.
Lets simplify the problem a bit.
Do all the following in interpreter window
>>> name="012"
>>> b=list(range(3))
>>> for x in name: print x
>>> for x in b: print x
Same or different?
Now go back to Denis' nice example and put in type(x)
into each print
Same or different?
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-10-24 19:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <viol4al91s5e1k7nb6hhdo08hc5k0d82em@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79631 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT), Rustom Mody
<rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:30:47 AM UTC+5:30, Seymore4Head wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:30:37 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>
>> name="123-xyz-abc"
>> a=range(10)
>> b=list(range(10))
>> c=str(list(range(10)))
>> print ("a",(a))
>> print ("b",(b))
>> print ("c",(c))
>>
>> for x in name:
>> if x in a:
>> print ("a",(x))
>> if x in b:
>> print ("b",(x))
>> if x in c:
>> print ("c",(x))
>>
>> B is type list and C is type str.
>> I guess I am still a little too thick. I would expect b and c to
>> work.
>
>Lets simplify the problem a bit.
>Do all the following in interpreter window
>
>>>> name="012"
>>>> b=list(range(3))
>
>>>> for x in name: print x
>
>>>> for x in b: print x
>
>Same or different?
>
>Now go back to Denis' nice example and put in type(x)
>into each print
>
>Same or different?
First. The interpreter is not good for me to use even when I am using
Python 3 because I forget to add : and I forget to put () around the
print statements.
To keep me from having to correct myself every time I use it, it is
just easier to make a short py file.
Here is mine:
name="012"
b=list(range(3))
for x in name: print (x)
print (type (x))
for x in b: print (x)
print (type (b))
I don't understand what I was supposed to learn from that. I know
that name will be a string so x will be a string.
I would still think if you compare a 1 from a string to a 1 from a
list, it should be the same.
Obviously I am wrong, but we knew that already.
I get they are not the same, but I still think they should be.
name="012"
b=list(range(3))
print (name[1])
print ([1])
1
[1]
OK I get it. They are not the same. I was expecting "1"
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-10-24 19:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rppl4ape5j4044bulc73a1gulahu53321e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79634 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:48:16 -0400, Seymore4Head
<Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT), Rustom Mody
><rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:30:47 AM UTC+5:30, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:30:37 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>>
>>> name="123-xyz-abc"
>>> a=range(10)
>>> b=list(range(10))
>>> c=str(list(range(10)))
>>> print ("a",(a))
>>> print ("b",(b))
>>> print ("c",(c))
>>>
>>> for x in name:
>>> if x in a:
>>> print ("a",(x))
>>> if x in b:
>>> print ("b",(x))
>>> if x in c:
>>> print ("c",(x))
>>>
>>> B is type list and C is type str.
>>> I guess I am still a little too thick. I would expect b and c to
>>> work.
>>
>>Lets simplify the problem a bit.
>>Do all the following in interpreter window
>>
>>>>> name="012"
>>>>> b=list(range(3))
>>
>>>>> for x in name: print x
>>
>>>>> for x in b: print x
>>
>>Same or different?
>>
>>Now go back to Denis' nice example and put in type(x)
>>into each print
>>
>>Same or different?
>
>First. The interpreter is not good for me to use even when I am using
>Python 3 because I forget to add : and I forget to put () around the
>print statements.
>
>To keep me from having to correct myself every time I use it, it is
>just easier to make a short py file.
>
>Here is mine:
>
>name="012"
>b=list(range(3))
>for x in name: print (x)
>print (type (x))
>for x in b: print (x)
>print (type (b))
>
>I don't understand what I was supposed to learn from that. I know
>that name will be a string so x will be a string.
>I would still think if you compare a 1 from a string to a 1 from a
>list, it should be the same.
>
>Obviously I am wrong, but we knew that already.
>I get they are not the same, but I still think they should be.
>
>name="012"
>b=list(range(3))
>print (name[1])
>print ([1])
>
>1
>[1]
>
>OK I get it. They are not the same. I was expecting "1"
>
Wait! I don't get it.
name="012"
b=list(range(3))
print (name[1])
print (b[1])
1
1
I forgot the b
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| From | MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-10-25 01:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.15149.1414196463.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #79636 |
On 2014-10-25 00:57, Seymore4Head wrote:
[snip]
> Wait! I don't get it.
> name="012"
> b=list(range(3))
> print (name[1])
> print (b[1])
> 1
> 1
>
> I forgot the b
>
If you print the int 1, you'll see:
1
If you print the string "1", you'll see:
1
Normally you want it to print only the characters of the string. Think
how annoying it would be if every time you printed a string it appeared
in quotes:
>>> print("Hello world!")
'Hello world!'
How could you print just the text:
Hello world!
No, it's better that it prints the characters of the string.
One function you can use is repr:
x = 1
y = "1"
print(repr(x))
print(repr(y))
This will print:
1
'1'
OK, now it's clear that x is an int and y is a string.
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| From | Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-10-24 20:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n4sl4alcid249e347t42i44ba58uukd8d9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79638 |
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:20:53 +0100, MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com>
wrote:
>On 2014-10-25 00:57, Seymore4Head wrote:
>[snip]
>> Wait! I don't get it.
>> name="012"
>> b=list(range(3))
>> print (name[1])
>> print (b[1])
>> 1
>> 1
>>
>> I forgot the b
>>
>If you print the int 1, you'll see:
>
>1
>
>If you print the string "1", you'll see:
>
>1
>
>Normally you want it to print only the characters of the string. Think
>how annoying it would be if every time you printed a string it appeared
>in quotes:
>
> >>> print("Hello world!")
>'Hello world!'
>
>How could you print just the text:
>
>Hello world!
>
>No, it's better that it prints the characters of the string.
>
>One function you can use is repr:
>
>x = 1
>y = "1"
>print(repr(x))
>print(repr(y))
>
>This will print:
>
>1
>'1'
>
>OK, now it's clear that x is an int and y is a string.
Yes
x = 123
y = "123"
z = [1,2,3]
print(repr(x))
print(repr(y))
print(repr(z))
123
'123'
[1, 2, 3]
Thanks
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