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Re: When do default parameters get their values set?

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Date 2014-12-11 13:24 +1100
Subject Re: When do default parameters get their values set?
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.16834.1418264648.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> But I have a different question -- can this be demonstrated without the 'is'?
> Because to me 'is' -- equivalently id -- is a code-smell and is like
> explaining funny behavior by showing the dis -- like
> $ gcc -S ...
> -- output.
>
> It can always explain, but indicates that the semantics is not (sufficiently) abstract in this aspect

Not so. Object identity is a fundamental part of Python.
Indistinguishable-but-distinct mutable objects are crucial to Python's
behaviour.

ChrisA

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When do default parameters get their values set? "bSneddon" <bsneddon@1:249/999.remove-cdt-this> - 2014-12-09 11:32 -0500
  Re: When do default parameters get their values set? "Chris Angelico" <chris.angelico@1:249/999.remove-cdt-this> - 2014-12-09 11:32 -0500
  Re: When do default parameters get their values set? "Dave Angel" <dave.angel@1:249/999.remove-cdt-this> - 2014-12-09 11:32 -0500
    Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2014-12-09 21:18 +0000
      Re: When do default parameters get their values set? random832@fastmail.us - 2014-12-09 18:07 -0500
        Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-12-09 18:44 -0800
          Re: When do default parameters get their values set? random832@fastmail.us - 2014-12-10 13:38 -0500
            Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-12-10 18:18 -0800
              Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-11 13:24 +1100
                Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-12-10 18:50 -0800
              Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-12-11 03:15 +0000
                Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-12-10 19:26 -0800
                Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-12-11 14:49 +1100
                Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-12-11 09:10 -0800
                Re: When do default parameters get their values set? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-12-12 09:51 +1100
              Re: When do default parameters get their values set? random832@fastmail.us - 2014-12-11 15:44 -0500
  Re: When do default parameters get their values set? "Tim Chase" <tim.chase@1:249/999.remove-cdt-this> - 2014-12-09 11:32 -0500

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