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Re: Python Basics

From alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com>
Subject Re: Python Basics
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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Date 2014-10-04 09:10 +0000

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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:09:58 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

> Chris Angelico wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Seymore4Head
>> <Seymore4Head@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> for i in range(1,10):
>>>     print (str(i)*i)
>> 
>> Seymour, please don't do this. When you "help" someone by just giving
>> him the answer to a homework problem, you get him past his immediate
>> issue of "I need to submit my homework for this problem". That lets him
>> get through his course without understanding the code he's creating
> [...]
> 
> In fairness to Seymour, at this extremely basic level, it's really hard
> to explain to somebody how to solve a problem without giving them the
> answer.
> 
> While I don't condone mindless parroting of work that others have done,
> remember that for tens of thousands of years, being shown how to do
> something, then imitating that, has been the most effective way for
> people to learn. Dropping hints is typically the least effective
> learning method.

I think Chris as demonstrated that you even at this basic level you can 
help without giving the answer, by asking a series of leading questions 
that result in the student providing the answer.




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One possible reason that things aren't going according to plan
is that there never was a plan in the first place.

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Python Basics diarmuid.higgins@mycit.ie - 2014-10-03 10:35 -0700
  Re: Python Basics Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-04 03:42 +1000
    Re: Python Basics diarmuid.higgins@mycit.ie - 2014-10-03 10:44 -0700
      Re: Python Basics Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-04 03:47 +1000
        Re: Python Basics diarmuid.higgins@mycit.ie - 2014-10-03 10:54 -0700
          Re: Python Basics Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-04 04:04 +1000
          Re: Python Basics Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-10-03 11:34 -0700
  Re: Python Basics Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-03 18:54 -0400
    Re: Python Basics Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-04 09:05 +1000
      Re: Python Basics Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-10-04 11:09 +1000
        Re: Python Basics Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-04 12:24 +1000
        Re: Python Basics alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-10-04 09:10 +0000
        Re: Python Basics Peter Pearson <pkpearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2014-10-04 17:42 +0000
      Re: Python Basics Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-10-09 11:26 -0700
        Re: Python Basics Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-10 08:38 +1100
  Re:Python Basics Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-10-03 19:13 -0400

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