Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz

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Date	2014-10-18 20:16 -0700
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Subject	Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz
From	Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>

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On Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:25:53 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:

> > Try learning Python itself, rather than playing around with extension
> > packages like pytz.

> To be fair, "You need to install 'pytz' to work correctly with date and
> time values" is correct advice. If the OP doesn't install it early, then
> works with timestamps, problems are inevitable -- at which point "oh, you
> needed to do that first" will be inevitable. It's lose-lose.

Yes

> It's a sad fact that MS Windows has completely useless timezone support,
> and this "install a third-party package" hurdle is a cost that is paid
> by all people trying to set up Python on MS Windows.

About MS-lacunae Ive nothing to say

[Just head over to a debian list like users or vote or.. and witness the
riot going on over systemd... Hard to believe all's right in Linux-land]

As for this OP and similar problems -- yes python is in a peculiar position.
Because of 'batteries included' beginners can do powerful stuff.
However sometimes the batteries need to be supplemented.
And then there's a problem -- its not clear whether
- the beginner is having classic noob problems.
  Expert just needs to tweak a command a bit and he's sailing
- the beginner is in somewhat uncharted (research-needed) land -- charting
  the route between mutually complementary AND competing setup tools
  
  I believe python must be some sort of record setter in this that
    o pip is a replacement for easy_install
    o you install pip with easy_install

!!

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Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz ryguy7272 <ryanshuell@gmail.com> - 2014-10-18 12:54 -0700
  Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2014-10-18 16:01 -0400
  Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-18 21:20 +0100
  Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz ryguy7272 <ryanshuell@gmail.com> - 2014-10-18 19:44 -0700
    Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-19 13:49 +1100
    Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-10-19 13:50 +1100
    Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-10-19 13:54 +1100
      Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-10-18 20:16 -0700
        Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Ryan Shuell <ryanshuell@gmail.com> - 2014-10-19 16:18 -0400
        Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-20 09:19 +0100
    Re: Quick Question About Setting Up Pytz Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-19 14:10 +1100

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