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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.prolog |
| Subject | Re: How Prolog became an education nightmare (Was: 50 Years of Prolog Nonsense) |
| Date | 2024-11-12 16:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vgvseq$3e31$2@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <db903ba2-8ccd-418e-bd18-a9eb381cd222n@googlegroups.com> <e5616850-37a8-46fd-b2a8-e3ca252b8a5an@googlegroups.com> <vgvsb7$3e31$1@solani.org> |
Here is the SWI-Prolog and the SICStus
Prolog abstract parse term. This is the real
nightmare of every computer science professor,
who wants to use Prolog in a compiler
construction course:
/* SWI-Prolog 9.3.14 */
end(end(begin(;(=(x,1),;(=(y,2),begin(=(z,3)))))))
/* SICStus Prolog 4.9.0 */
begin(;(=(x,1),;(=(y,2),begin(end(end(=(z,3)))))))
On the other hand mostlikely the OP @horsh
would expect:
/* What the End-User wants */
end(begin(;(=(x,1),;(=(y,2),end(begin(=(z,3)))))))
I think its impossible to do in any Prolog system,
you would need a programming language with the
possibility to do mixfix syntax definitions,
like for example in Isabelle/HOL:
(* Define the mixfix syntax for a Pascal-like block *)
syntax
"_begin_end" :: "'a ⇒ 'a" ("begin _ end")
Or otherwise use DCG to write your own parser
for the DSL at hand, that you want to parse.
Since Prolog operators cannot model mixfix syntax,
at least SWI-Prolog and SICStus Prolog fail,
and I guess other Prolog systems fail as well.
Mild Shock schrieb:
> Concerning the input (xxx yyy zzz) the OP wrote:
>
> I would expect it to print zzz(xxx(yyy)).
>
> Where did he get this requirement from, he didn’t
> compare other Prolog systems, right? So it came from
> his applicationdomain. But what was his application
>
> domain? Ok, lets proceed to an example with multiple
> brakets. Lets make the Pascal “begin” “end” example,
> by replacing xxx and zzz by “begin” and “end”.
>
> I get this result:
>
> ?- member(X,[begin,end]), current_op(Y,Z,X).
> X = (begin), Y = 1100, Z = fy ;
> X = (end), Y = 1100, Z = yf.
>
> ?- X = (begin
> | x = 1;
> | y = 2;
> | begin
> | z = 3
> | end
> | end).
> X = (begin x=1;y=2;begin z=3 end end).
>
> But is the abstract parse term, the Prolog result useful?
>
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