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Re: New milestone float formatting [LoL] (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Re: New milestone float formatting [LoL] (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules)
Date 2024-07-28 16:42 +0200
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GNU Prolog seems to still use the non-adaptive
algorithm with 17 decimal precision. It could
profit from the adaptive algorithm that arbitrates

between 16 and 17 decimal precision:

/* GNU Prolog 1.5.0 */

?- X is 0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1.
X = 0.79999999999999993

?- 0.79999999999999993 == 0.7999999999999999.
Yes

?- X is 23/10.
X = 2.2999999999999998

?- 2.2999999999999998 == 2.3.
Yes

All discrepancies are not incorrect displays,
since reparsing decimal numbers shows that they
hit the same floating point values.

But 2.3 would be cuter!

Mild Shock schrieb:
> 
> Further test cases are:
> 
> ?- X is 370370367037037036703703703670 / 123456789012345678901234567890.
> X = 3.0000000000000004.
> 
> ?- X is 0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1+0.1.
> X = 0.7999999999999999.
> 
> The first test case doesn't work in SWI-Prolog
> since recently it has improve its realization of
> (/)/2 arithemetic function. While in most Prolog
> 
> systems we should have the above result, since
> neither the division equals 3.0 nor the sum equals
> 0.8 when we use floating point numbers, and
> 
> when we convert first to floating point number
> before doing the division. The adaptive algorithm
> is more expensive than just calling num.toPrecision(17).
> 
> It will in mimimum call num.toPrecision(16) and do
> the back conversion, i.e. Number(res). So unparsing
> has a parsing cost. And for critical numbers, it
> 
> has a second unparsing via num.toPrecision(17) cost.
> But I guess we can accept this little slow down.

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    Differences among the "bomb" and "xbetween" (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-09-24 17:10 +0200
      The issue with free speech Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-09 15:29 +0200
        failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 09:33 +0100
          Re: failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 09:35 +0100
            Re: failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 09:37 +0100
      variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-12 22:02 +0200
        Re: variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-12 23:16 +0200
        Re: variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-12 23:34 +0200
          Re: variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-13 00:54 +0200
  Re: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-07-29 04:51 -0700
    Re: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-09-07 17:15 -0700
      Re: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2023-11-19 19:56 +0100
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          Re: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2023-11-19 20:01 +0100
    New milestone float formatting [LoL] (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-07-28 14:32 +0200
      Re: New milestone float formatting [LoL] (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-07-28 14:38 +0200
        Re: New milestone float formatting [LoL] (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-07-28 16:42 +0200
          Re: Differences among the "bomb" and "xbetween" (Was: New milestone float formatting [LoL]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-09-24 17:20 +0200
            New milestone time formatting (Was: Differences among the "bomb" and "xbetween") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-09-26 13:22 +0200
      More Prolog Improvement Proposals (PIPs) [PIP401 - PIP404] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-09 09:43 +0200
        Even More Prolog Improvement Proposals (PIPs) [PIP301 - PIP303] (Was: More Prolog Improvement Proposals (PIPs) [PIP401 - PIP404]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-09 09:45 +0200
          Re: Even More Prolog Improvement Proposals (PIPs) [PIP301 - PIP303] (Was: More Prolog Improvement Proposals (PIPs) [PIP401 - PIP404]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-09 10:00 +0200
            Re: Even More Prolog Improvement Proposals (PIPs) [PIP301 - PIP303] (Was: More Prolog Improvement Proposals (PIPs) [PIP401 - PIP404]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-09 11:22 +0200
    A FFI for evaluable functions Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-10 00:14 +0200
      Name resolution is a blackbox (Re: A FFI for evaluable functions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-10 00:16 +0200
        plonk in discourse (Was: The issue with free speech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-10 00:48 +0200
          When do two Prolog terms marry? (Was: The issue with free speech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-14 19:15 +0200
            Re: When do two Prolog terms marry? (Was: The issue with free speech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-14 19:22 +0200
            native implementation of variant/2 can be fast (Was: When do two Prolog terms marry?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-10-15 01:35 +0200
      KISS principle pays off (Was: A FFI for evaluable functions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-03 00:52 +0100
    Waste of EU money / bread and butter of statistics (Was: failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 09:51 +0100
      Re: Waste of EU money / bread and butter of statistics (Was: failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 10:09 +0100
      Re: Waste of EU money / bread and butter of statistics (Was: failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org]) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2024-11-06 10:43 +0100
        SICStus Prolog is overrated (Was: Waste of EU money / bread and butter of statistics) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 12:57 +0100
          Crashing under its own bloath, Scryer Prolog (Was: SICStus Prolog is overrated) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 13:03 +0100
            “Luce,” which is Italian for “light.” (Was: Crashing under its own bloath, Scryer Prolog) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 13:12 +0100
              More Poisened Meat balls? [NIVIDIA & OpenAI] (Way: “Luce,” which is Italian for “light.”) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-06 13:33 +0100
                Re: More Poisened Meat balls? [NIVIDIA & OpenAI] (Way: “Luce,” which is Italian for “light.”) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2024-11-06 14:17 +0100
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