Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy)

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	sci.logic, comp.lang.prolog, sci.physics
Subject	Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy)
Date	2026-07-29 22:52 +0200
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Hi,

 > Who exactly is the thief? Does this person
 > have stats in the Rogue class in dungeons
 > and dragons?

The conspiracy theory of a stealing of Torso VDBE,
by Rossy Boy, is probably a result of complete
ignorance of the Hack ecosystem.

Hack is a very popular computer science project,
with a couple of subprojects in hardware and
software. It goes also by the name Nand to Tetris,

and is programming language agnositic. You can do
Hack experiments in any programming language, be
it BASIC, ADA or Rust. Nobody cares.

The gist are projects like here, first to
educate yourself about Hack:

https://www.nand2tetris.org/course

And then to use Hack in different contexts:

https://www.nand2tetris.org/copy-of-talks

For didactic purposes, I used Hack for my WebGPU
experiment. I didn't even take a look at Torso
VDBE, why should I? Hack is nicely documented,

has even a book, and fusing the two 16-bit
instruction types A and D, into a single 32-bit
instruction stream, is nowhere patented.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't use Rust, you are crazy. First of
> all the parallel simulator is 100% written
> in Prolog, should also run in ISO Prolog,
> 
> enhanced by a library(lists). Second I only
> mentioned that WebGPU / WGSL, the language
> there has a Rust inspired language.
> 
> Its not Rust. Whats wrong with you? Why do
> you adress your weariness of life to me.
> I am neither thief, nor can I help you
> 
> with your frustration, and histeric outbursts.
> Maybe just be a man and jump off a bridge, idiot.
> Or tame your frustration, usenet is not for
> 
> you alone, your stupid asshole.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > 
> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835 
> 
>  > I don't much care about Rust.
>  >
>  > .. gibberish ..
>  >
>  > Thief.
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center,
>> he thinks there exists no literature about
>> serial algorithms of parallel stuff, and
>>
>> he also thinks normal forms lead to optimizing
>> something. LoL, what a utter bullshit. I did
>> alreay a serial implementation of a parallel
>>
>> simulation of my pi-WAM. Just lookup the literature
>> about pi-calulus. I published it a few days ago,
>> its part of 2.2.4 released already:
>>
>> Parallel π-WAM: An Interleaved Synchronous Emulator
>> https://medium.com/2989/0196089e143a
>>
>> Whats your point, Rossy Boy? Except you post pretend
>> nonsense not knowing what you are doing?
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  > No, troll, these are serial algorithms their optimized forms.
>>  >
>>  > Normal sorts of forms, ....
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Yeah, everybody already figured out "interpreters" and
>>  > "programs" and "spawning".
>>  >
>>  > Go spawn yourself.
>>  >
>>
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>>>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less 
>>> than
>>>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>>>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>>>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
>>>
>>> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>  > So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>>>  > the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>>>  > for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>>>  > is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
>>>
>>> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follows?
>>>
>>> Whats the problem to solve then?
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein.
>>>> He is not Einstein since Einstein is already dead:
>>>>
>>>> Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
>>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein
>>>>
>>>> He is also not Zweistein, since he doesn't
>>>> understand concepts such as:
>>>>
>>>> - NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture
>>>>
>>>> Also his hands are small, and his breath stinks,
>>>> and he lives in the basement of his mother.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Slowly I start understanding numbnuts like
>>>>> Rossy Boy who don't understand tech, although
>>>>> they are from UK and not from a 3rd world
>>>>>
>>>>> country, and also I start understanding morons
>>>>> like Micro Penis, who are behind a curtain,
>>>>> and cannot access a lot of tech.
>>>>>
>>>>> The same holds for SWI Prologs newest campaign
>>>>> that probably adresses some poor indians that
>>>>> have neither 5G nor Macs:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1:38:01 The Kyiv keynote disaster
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8goS6B3BbI
>>>>>
>>>>> Woa! Real time download of Scala, Closure,
>>>>> etc.. Whats the magic behind that? Some SWI
>>>>> point of sale, downloading it via its
>>>>>
>>>>> keyboard and some telephathy module ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ride the snake
>>>>>> He's old and his skin is cold
>>>>>> The west is the best
>>>>>> The west is the best
>>>>>> Get here and we'll do the rest
>>>>>> The blue bus is calling us
>>>>>> The blue bus is calling us
>>>>>> Driver, where you taking us?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apocalypse Now intro: The Doors, The End {1979}
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  > Hi,
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Again I posted everything here:
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>>>>  >> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > The repo says, same time when I posted
>>>>>>  > the link first time:
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >> This repository was archived by the
>>>>>>  >> owner on Jul 9, 2026. It is now read-only.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Now a USENET user, who had already entitled
>>>>>>  > himself for a couple of irrational accusations
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > towards my side, is asking this question:
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Chris M. Thomasson schrieb, Jul 24, 2026
>>>>>>  >> Show an outline of what you
>>>>>>  >> need you compute shader to do?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Bravo, thats a delay of a wooping 15 days.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Bye
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>>>>>>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started
>>>>>>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How it started:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>>>>>>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>>>>>>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>>>>>>> generative pre-trained transformer model
>>>>>>> designed to produce human-like text that
>>>>>>> continues from a prompt.
>>>>>>> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>>>>>>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>>>>>>> billion parameters. You probably need about
>>>>>>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>>>>>>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>>>>>>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>>>>>>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>>>>>>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>>>>>>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>>>>>>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>>>>>>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>>>>>>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>>>>>>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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          Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions] (Re: The Pixel Phone AI Experiment Song (Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 09:23 +0200
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        Why forget something, that was never on my mind (Re: And, where did I talk about rockets? [Hint its about xAI's Grok]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-25 09:49 +0200
      Example Mandel Brot rendering [Faster with MIMD] (Was: Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-25 09:56 +0200
  Potential Python Recovery: Free Threading [3.13 release] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 10:21 +0200
  The things XILINX braught to the AMD table (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 18:48 +0200
    NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 19:13 +0200
      Micro penis mother sung arias (Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 14:40 +0200
        Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Re: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:27 +0200
          Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care [(Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Re: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:35 +0200
            You are a moron, brainless putin payed (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 18:01 +0200
              Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool (Re: You are a moron, brainless putin payed) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 19:47 +0200
            Out of the blue accusation span 15 days [Empirical USENET study] (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:27 +0200
            A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:41 +0200
              I didn't use a Ryzen Halo, whats wrong with you? (Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:25 +0200
      Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 14:17 +0200
      ASML stocks are plunging, bye bye dutchies (Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 14:18 +0200
  Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 17:59 +0200
    2008: 4 Blades + Tesla S1070 versus 2026: 1 AI Laptop (Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 18:15 +0200
  Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:37 +0200
    Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:58 +0200
      Could take 3-4 months find machine / browser (Re: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 21:16 +0200
      The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Re: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-26 19:54 +0200
        The turbo capping of AI Laptops (Was: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-26 20:00 +0200
        Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Re: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:16 +0200
        Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:16 +0200
          miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants (Re: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:52 +0200
            Andrej Karpathy original gangster of Budget Laptop (Re: miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:54 +0200
          The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training (Re: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 10:57 +0200
            How speed up π-WAM with vector operations (Re: The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:10 +0200
              AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying] (Re: How speed up π-WAM with vector operations) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 13:21 +0200
                The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 13:22 +0200
                Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 07:34 -0700
                Maybe they should have named it NVIDIA Einstein [Rossy Boy Toe Sucking] (Was: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 17:12 +0200
                Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.com> - 2026-07-27 15:43 +0000
                Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) R Kym Horsell <kymhorsell@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:46 +0000
                π-WAM is not adding decimals, it is removing decimals (Was: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:34 +0200
                In Budget Laptops the TOPS come with low energy footprint (Re: π-WAM is not adding decimals, it is removing decimals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:45 +0200
    Potato Computer owner impressed by Ukraine Tech [Rossy Boys Brother?] (Was: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 16:56 +0200
      Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Was: Potato Computer owner impressed by Ukraine Tech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:25 +0200
        You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:12 +0200
          Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:53 +0200
            Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:55 +0200
              Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:58 +0200
          Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:06 +0200
            I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:25 +0200
              Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 22:52 +0200
                A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:11 +0200
                Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Was: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 11:25 +0200
                I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:37 +0200
                For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:51 +0200
                Corr.: 4 Months --> 4 Weeks (Re: For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 20:05 +0200
  Got it. Or are you too stupid? [New Usenet Mantra] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:59 +0200
  Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 13:03 +0200
    AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:02 +0200
      Actor/Erlang is dead, no Thread and Mailbox conflation [golang channels] (Re: AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading) (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:04 +0200

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