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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.prolog |
| Subject | 2025 will be last year we hear of Python (Re: The Artificial Intelligence Flip: Acer Swift Go!) |
| Date | 2025-09-01 00:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1092j9d$v7rf$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <107t0fi$6bgl$1@solani.org> <1092gfa$v64e$1@solani.org> |
Hi, 2025 will be last year we hear of Python. This is just a tears in your eyes Eulogy: Python: The Documentary | An origin story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfH4QL4VqJ0 The Zen of Python is very different from the Zen of Copilot+ . The bloody Copilot+ Laptop doesn't use Python in its Artificial Intelligence: AI Content Extraction - Python Involced? ❌ None at runtime, Model runs in ONNX + DirectML on NPU AI Image Search - Python Involced? ❌ None at runtime, ON-device image feature, fully compiled AI Phi Silica - Python Involced? ❌ None at runtime, Lightweight Phi model packaged as ONNX AI Semantic Analysis? - Python Involced? ❌ None at runtime, Text understanding done via compiled ONNX operators Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > Woa! I didn't know that lausy Microsoft > Copilot certified Laptops are that fast: > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > % Dogelog Player 2.1.1 for Java > > % AMD Ryzen 5 4500U > % ?- time(test). > % % Zeit 756 ms, GC 1 ms, Lips 9950390, Uhr 23.08.2025 02:45 > % true. > > % AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 > % ?- time(test). > % % Zeit 378 ms, GC 1 ms, Lips 19900780, Uhr 28.08.2025 17:44 > % true. > > What happened to the Death of Moore's Law? > But somehow memory speed, CPU - RAM and GPU - RAM > trippled. Possibly due to some Artificial > > Intelligence demand. And the bloody thing > has also a NPU (Neural Processing Unit), > nicely visible. > > Bye > > About the RAM speed. L1, L2 and L3 > caches are bigger. So its harder to poison > the CPU. Also the CPU shows a revival of > > Hyper-Threading Technology (HTT), which > AMD gives it a different name: They call it > Simultaneous multithreading (SMT). > > https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3702vs6397/AMD-Ryzen-5-4500U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-AI-7-350 > > > BTW: Still ticking along with the primes.pl example: > > test :- > len(L, 1000), > primes(L, _). > > primes([], 1). > primes([J|L], J) :- > primes(L, I), > K is I+1, > search(L, K, J). > > search(L, I, J) :- > mem(X, L), > I mod X =:= 0, !, > K is I+1, > search(L, K, J). > search(_, I, I). > > mem(X, [X|_]). > mem(X, [_|Y]) :- > mem(X, Y). > > len([], 0) :- !. > len([_|L], N) :- > N > 0, > M is N-1, > len(L, M). > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> WebPL is already outdated I guess. It doesn't >> show the versions of the other Prolog systems >> it is using. While I had these results for >> >> the primes example in the WebPL playground: >> >> /* Trealla Prolog WASM */ >> (23568.9ms) >> >> When I run the example here: >> >> https://php.energy/trealla.html >> >> I get better results: >> >> /* trealla-js 0.27.1 */ >> >> ?- time(test). >> % Time elapsed 9.907s, 11263917 Inferences, 1.137 MLips >> >> Bye >
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WebPL is already outdated Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-17 18:37 +0200
Heap/Stack versus WAM resp. ZIP (Was: WebPL is already outdated) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-18 14:52 +0200
Trealla knows Program Sharing (PS) Tricks ? (Was: Heap/Stack versus WAM resp. ZIP) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-18 15:06 +0200
Smarter Partial Strings would use Program Sharing ['$append'/3] (Was: Trealla knows Program Sharing (PS) Tricks ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-18 15:42 +0200
Static Shunting is even better [Dogelog Player] (Was: Smarter Partial Strings would use Program Sharing ['$append'/3]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-18 15:49 +0200
The Artificial Intelligence Flip: Acer Swift Go! (Was: WebPL is already outdated) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-31 23:56 +0200
2025 will be last year we hear of Python (Re: The Artificial Intelligence Flip: Acer Swift Go!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-01 00:45 +0200
Apertus: With love, from Switzerland [02 Sept 2025] (Re: 2025 will be last year we hear of Python) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-05 00:36 +0100
Don't try this (Was: Apertus: With love, from Switzerland [02 Sept 2025] ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-05 01:03 +0100
AI means ambracing Non-Linearity (Was: 2025 will be last year we hear of Python) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 10:01 +0200
AI soaked PCs: Is there a Copilot+ Prolog? (Was: AI means ambracing Non-Linearity) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 10:10 +0200
The morning coffee incident [Prolog Community] (Was: AI soaked PCs: Is there a Copilot+ Prolog?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 14:38 +0200
Root Cause Prediction for Your Brain (Was: The morning coffee incident [Prolog Community]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 18:22 +0200
Please delete my account and all my posts on SWI-Prolog discourse (Re: Root Cause Prediction for Your Brain) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 18:38 +0200
I will consult a Lawyer of mine (Was: Please delete my account and all my posts on SWI-Prolog discourse) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 18:42 +0200
Scryer Prolog unify_with_occurs_check/2 doesn't scale (Was: WebPL is already outdated) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 16:08 +0200
How bad is Rust, can JavaScript beat it? (Was: Scryer Prolog unify_with_occurs_check/2 doesn't scale) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-19 16:18 +0200
unify_with_occurs_check/2 might have been fixed (Was: Scryer Prolog unify_with_occurs_check/2 doesn't scale) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-25 01:50 +0200
Had to Rollback my Jaffar Unification (Was: unify_with_occurs_check/2 might have been fixed) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-25 01:59 +0200
Trealla Prolog might apply "frozeness" to cyclic terms (Was: Had to Rollback my Jaffar Unification) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-25 02:06 +0200
Non-intrusive through "frozen" subcategories (Was: Trealla Prolog might apply "frozeness" to cyclic terms) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-25 02:21 +0200
Scryer Prolog occurs check cannot do hydra (Was: Scryer Prolog unify_with_occurs_check/2 doesn't scale) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-09-26 12:19 +0200
WebPL and Scryer Prolog are bad examples (Was: WebPL is already outdated) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-13 09:49 +0200
Who will win Shift-Reduce or Tabled DCG? [AI Boom] (Was: WebPL and Scryer Prolog are bad examples) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-13 15:09 +0200
primes.pl mainly tests the Prolog ALU [mod/2 vs rem/2] (Was: WebPL is already outdated) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-15 02:38 +0200
25-30% is insane, Neural Network Branch Prediction? (Was: primes.pl mainly tests the Prolog ALU) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-15 04:33 +0200
NPUs (Neural Processing Units) are the new normal (Was: 25-30% is insane, Neural Network Branch Prediction?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-15 16:04 +0200
Ask Phind: AI inflection point right now [End 2025] (Was: NPUs (Neural Processing Units) are the new normal) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-15 16:10 +0200
Eat Tteokbokki before SkyNet kills you [$100 ChatGPT] (Was: Ask Phind: AI inflection point right now [End 2025]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-18 15:57 +0200
Give Julio Di Egidio the bloody money [3 RMB¥ MiniMind] (Re: Eat Tteokbokki before SkyNet kills you [$100 ChatGPT]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-18 16:19 +0200
Vertex AI Training is more expensive? (Was: Give Julio Di Egidio the bloody money [3 RMB¥ MiniMind]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-21 00:32 +0200
The Love Affair: OpenAI and AMD (Was: NPUs (Neural Processing Units) are the new normal) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-18 18:59 +0200
The NPU in your Browser [WebNN by W3C] (Was: NPUs (Neural Processing Units) are the new normal) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-26 08:39 +0100
Fuzzy Alert: Boris the Loris on the Dancefloor (Was: The NPU in your Browser [WebNN by W3C]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-26 11:33 +0100
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