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  Install Apache Php Windows 64 bit Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-05 19:02 -0600
    Re: Install Apache Php Windows 64 bit Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-04-05 21:49 -0400
    Re: Install Apache Php Windows 64 bit Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-04-05 20:22 -0700
      Re: Install Apache Php Windows 64 bit Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-06 21:20 -0600
        Re: Install Apache Php Windows 64 bit Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-04-06 21:50 -0700
          Re: Install Apache Php Windows 64 bit Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-06 23:16 -0600
    Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-06 21:21 -0600
      Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-04-07 13:11 +0200
        Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-04-07 13:55 +0200
          Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-04-07 14:22 +0200
        Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-08 21:54 -0600
          Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-04-08 22:41 -0700
      Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-04-07 09:30 -0400
        Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-08 22:03 -0600

#13335 — Install Apache Php Windows 64 bit

My latest (3 year old) setup is a Windows 7 Pro 64 bit laptop using 
Apache 2.2 (with ssl) and Php 5.4, both 32 bit versions.

I just built a brand new desktop machine, also with Windows 7 Pro 64 
bit, and I would like to upgrade Apache to 2.4 and keep Php at version 
5.4. (I have a lot of older web apps I wrote that use the old mysql 
extension and I'd like to take my time updating them).  This is not be a 
public server, so using slightly older software is not a great concern 
to me.

Anyway, when searching the web I see lots of forum posts and blogs With 
installation advice, notes, and tutorials for installing Windows Apache 
2.4 64 bit with Php and it is beginning to look like it could be too 
much trouble.  I like to keep things simple and I do not know what path 
to take here.

 From what I understand, I need to install MS Visual C++ redistributable 
2012 (C11) before I install Apache 2.4 64 bit from Apache Lounge.  
That's easy enough, but then, I don't even know if there is a compatible 
Php5.4 build for 64 bit Apache.  ??

I keep thinking I should fall back to the 32 bit version (and Apache 
2.2) to avoid any extra troubleshooting and tweaks that may be necessary.

Ideally, I'd like to install Apache (manually, http -k install) as I 
always have (easy - especially when using a previous http.con for 
reference) and unzip Php into an appropriate folder (copy a previous 
hp.mini file - making sure paths to Php modules are correct). 

Using Apache2.2 and Php5.4 - 32 bit - this has always been quick and 
easy - and it simply works.  If the 64 bit versions of Apache 2.4 and 
Php 5.4 (or 5.5) require more "adjustments" I'd rather stick with what 
simply works.  I see so many discussions about problems that it makes me 
hesitant.  All I want to do is keep my "legacy" web apps running on my 
new desktop (so I can retire my old Win EXP desktop - my main local 
network web server).

Any experience or advice to share?  It almost seems like Apache 2.4 and 
Php - 64 bit - are not quite "ready for prime-time."

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#13336

On 4/5/2014 9:02 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> My latest (3 year old) setup is a Windows 7 Pro 64 bit laptop using
> Apache 2.2 (with ssl) and Php 5.4, both 32 bit versions.
>
> I just built a brand new desktop machine, also with Windows 7 Pro 64
> bit, and I would like to upgrade Apache to 2.4 and keep Php at version
> 5.4. (I have a lot of older web apps I wrote that use the old mysql
> extension and I'd like to take my time updating them).  This is not be a
> public server, so using slightly older software is not a great concern
> to me.
>
> Anyway, when searching the web I see lots of forum posts and blogs With
> installation advice, notes, and tutorials for installing Windows Apache
> 2.4 64 bit with Php and it is beginning to look like it could be too
> much trouble.  I like to keep things simple and I do not know what path
> to take here.
>
>  From what I understand, I need to install MS Visual C++ redistributable
> 2012 (C11) before I install Apache 2.4 64 bit from Apache Lounge. That's
> easy enough, but then, I don't even know if there is a compatible Php5.4
> build for 64 bit Apache.  ??
>
> I keep thinking I should fall back to the 32 bit version (and Apache
> 2.2) to avoid any extra troubleshooting and tweaks that may be necessary.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to install Apache (manually, http -k install) as I
> always have (easy - especially when using a previous http.con for
> reference) and unzip Php into an appropriate folder (copy a previous
> hp.mini file - making sure paths to Php modules are correct).
> Using Apache2.2 and Php5.4 - 32 bit - this has always been quick and
> easy - and it simply works.  If the 64 bit versions of Apache 2.4 and
> Php 5.4 (or 5.5) require more "adjustments" I'd rather stick with what
> simply works.  I see so many discussions about problems that it makes me
> hesitant.  All I want to do is keep my "legacy" web apps running on my
> new desktop (so I can retire my old Win EXP desktop - my main local
> network web server).
>
> Any experience or advice to share?  It almost seems like Apache 2.4 and
> Php - 64 bit - are not quite "ready for prime-time."
>

Try asking in an Apache newsgroup.  This one is about PHP (in case you 
couldn't figure that out).


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#13337

In article <lhq94e$1v2$1@dont-email.me>,
 Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> My latest (3 year old) setup is a Windows 7 Pro 64 bit laptop using 
> Apache 2.2 (with ssl) and Php 5.4, both 32 bit versions.
> 
> I just built a brand new desktop machine, also with Windows 7 Pro 64 
> bit, and I would like to upgrade Apache to 2.4 and keep Php at version 
> 5.4. (I have a lot of older web apps I wrote that use the old mysql 
> extension and I'd like to take my time updating them).  This is not be a 
> public server, so using slightly older software is not a great concern 
> to me.
> 
> Anyway, when searching the web I see lots of forum posts and blogs With 
> installation advice, notes, and tutorials for installing Windows Apache 
> 2.4 64 bit with Php and it is beginning to look like it could be too 
> much trouble.  I like to keep things simple and I do not know what path 
> to take here.
> 
>  From what I understand, I need to install MS Visual C++ redistributable 
> 2012 (C11) before I install Apache 2.4 64 bit from Apache Lounge.  
> That's easy enough, but then, I don't even know if there is a compatible 
> Php5.4 build for 64 bit Apache.  ??
> 
> I keep thinking I should fall back to the 32 bit version (and Apache 
> 2.2) to avoid any extra troubleshooting and tweaks that may be necessary.
> 
> Ideally, I'd like to install Apache (manually, http -k install) as I 
> always have (easy - especially when using a previous http.con for 
> reference) and unzip Php into an appropriate folder (copy a previous 
> hp.mini file - making sure paths to Php modules are correct). 
> 
> Using Apache2.2 and Php5.4 - 32 bit - this has always been quick and 
> easy - and it simply works.  If the 64 bit versions of Apache 2.4 and 
> Php 5.4 (or 5.5) require more "adjustments" I'd rather stick with what 
> simply works.  I see so many discussions about problems that it makes me 
> hesitant.  All I want to do is keep my "legacy" web apps running on my 
> new desktop (so I can retire my old Win EXP desktop - my main local 
> network web server).
> 
> Any experience or advice to share?  It almost seems like Apache 2.4 and 
> Php - 64 bit - are not quite "ready for prime-time."

From the Linux world, it's a no-no to mix 32-bit and 64-bit stuff that 
are linked together sharing libraries.

In my world, Apache, php, and mysql would all have to be 64-bit in order 
to work together.  The package manager wouldn't allow you to install 
anything else.

IF you're running php as a CGI instead of a mod_php, then you might get 
away with a 32-bit version of it.  And it might talk to a 32-bit version 
of MySQL since it's usually done through a pipe or network socket.  But 
if you have Apache and mod_php, they're tied together and you're stuck 
running a 64-bit version, however you get that.

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#13338

Michael Vilain wrote:
> In article <lhq94e$1v2$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>   
>> ...
>> Anyway, when searching the web I see lots of forum posts and blogs With 
>> installation advice, notes, and tutorials for installing Windows Apache 
>> 2.4 64 bit with Php and it is beginning to look like it could be too 
>> much trouble.  I like to keep things simple and I do not know what path 
>> to take here.
>>
>>  From what I understand, I need to install MS Visual C++ redistributable 
>> 2012 (C11) before I install Apache 2.4 64 bit from Apache Lounge.  
>> That's easy enough, but then, I don't even know if there is a compatible 
>> Php5.4 build for 64 bit Apache.  ??
>>
>> I keep thinking I should fall back to the 32 bit version (and Apache 
>> 2.2) to avoid any extra troubleshooting and tweaks that may be necessary.
>>
>> ......Any experience or advice to share?  It almost seems like Apache 2.4 and 
>> Php - 64 bit - are not quite "ready for prime-time."
>>     
>
> From the Linux world, it's a no-no to mix 32-bit and 64-bit stuff that 
> are linked together sharing libraries.
>
> In my world, Apache, php, and mysql would all have to be 64-bit in order 
> to work together.  The package manager wouldn't allow you to install 
> anything else.
>
> IF you're running php as a CGI instead of a mod_php, then you might get 
> away with a 32-bit version of it.  And it might talk to a 32-bit version 
> of MySQL since it's usually done through a pipe or network socket.  

I am currently doing the opposite, using a 64 bit build of Mysql5.5 with 
32 bit builds of Php and Apache.

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#13340

In article <lht5ja$utq$1@dont-email.me>,
 Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Michael Vilain wrote:
> > In article <lhq94e$1v2$1@dont-email.me>,
> >  Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >   
> >> ...
> >> Anyway, when searching the web I see lots of forum posts and blogs With 
> >> installation advice, notes, and tutorials for installing Windows Apache 
> >> 2.4 64 bit with Php and it is beginning to look like it could be too 
> >> much trouble.  I like to keep things simple and I do not know what path 
> >> to take here.
> >>
> >>  From what I understand, I need to install MS Visual C++ redistributable 
> >> 2012 (C11) before I install Apache 2.4 64 bit from Apache Lounge.  
> >> That's easy enough, but then, I don't even know if there is a compatible 
> >> Php5.4 build for 64 bit Apache.  ??
> >>
> >> I keep thinking I should fall back to the 32 bit version (and Apache 
> >> 2.2) to avoid any extra troubleshooting and tweaks that may be necessary.
> >>
> >> ......Any experience or advice to share?  It almost seems like Apache 2.4 
> >> and 
> >> Php - 64 bit - are not quite "ready for prime-time."
> >>     
> >
> > From the Linux world, it's a no-no to mix 32-bit and 64-bit stuff that 
> > are linked together sharing libraries.
> >
> > In my world, Apache, php, and mysql would all have to be 64-bit in order 
> > to work together.  The package manager wouldn't allow you to install 
> > anything else.
> >
> > IF you're running php as a CGI instead of a mod_php, then you might get 
> > away with a 32-bit version of it.  And it might talk to a 32-bit version 
> > of MySQL since it's usually done through a pipe or network socket.  
> 
> I am currently doing the opposite, using a 64 bit build of Mysql5.5 with 
> 32 bit builds of Php and Apache.

MySQL isn't linked to php.  They talk through interprocess communication 
or a network connnection.  So that should work.  It's Apache and php 
that can be linked together or run separately.  If they are linked, then 
they both must be either 32-bit or 64-bit.  That was my point.  Your 
configuration works. Is there a reason why you're changing it?

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#13342

Michael Vilain wrote:
> In article <lht5ja$utq$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>   
>> Michael Vilain wrote:
>>     
>>> In article <lhq94e$1v2$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>  Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> ...
>>>> Anyway, when searching the web I see lots of forum posts and blogs With 
>>>> installation advice, notes, and tutorials for installing Windows Apache 
>>>> 2.4 64 bit with Php and it is beginning to look like it could be too 
>>>> much trouble.  I like to keep things simple and I do not know what path 
>>>> to take here.
>>>>
>>>>  From what I understand, I need to install MS Visual C++ redistributable 
>>>> 2012 (C11) before I install Apache 2.4 64 bit from Apache Lounge.  
>>>> That's easy enough, but then, I don't even know if there is a compatible 
>>>> Php5.4 build for 64 bit Apache.  ??
>>>>
>>>> I keep thinking I should fall back to the 32 bit version (and Apache 
>>>> 2.2) to avoid any extra troubleshooting and tweaks that may be necessary.
>>>>
>>>> ......Any experience or advice to share?  It almost seems like Apache 2.4 
>>>> and 
>>>> Php - 64 bit - are not quite "ready for prime-time."
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> From the Linux world, it's a no-no to mix 32-bit and 64-bit stuff that 
>>> are linked together sharing libraries.
>>>
>>> In my world, Apache, php, and mysql would all have to be 64-bit in order 
>>> to work together.  The package manager wouldn't allow you to install 
>>> anything else.
>>>
>>> IF you're running php as a CGI instead of a mod_php, then you might get 
>>> away with a 32-bit version of it.  And it might talk to a 32-bit version 
>>> of MySQL since it's usually done through a pipe or network socket.  
>>>       
>> I am currently doing the opposite, using a 64 bit build of Mysql5.5 with 
>> 32 bit builds of Php and Apache.
>>     
>
> MySQL isn't linked to php.  They talk through interprocess communication 
> or a network connnection.  So that should work.  

I know that, I was just commenting on your statement that "it might talk 
to a 32-bit version of MySQL...". Indeed it should, and I know for a 
fact that it also works in the opposite direction, too.

> It's Apache and php 
> that can be linked together or run separately.  If they are linked, then 
> they both must be either 32-bit or 64-bit.  That was my point.  Your 
> configuration works. Is there a reason why you're changing it?
>
>   

I am installing into a new system that I intend to use for many years 
and I'd like to take a step forward (newer version of VC++ compilation 
and perhaps x64). I could use the Php 5.4 x32 VC9 as I have it now. Php 
5.4 is fine for a production server (my shared host is at 5.3, and that 
is only if I opt to upgrade from the default 5.2).

I would prefer, though, to start using the latest Php builds (5.5) in my 
local development environment. I'd also like to start using the versions 
compiled with VC11 (Visual Studio 2012) and, if it works, x64. I want to 
bump Apache up because Apache2.2 is now a legacy version.

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#13339 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

I'll try again .... (also changed Subject)

Perhaps I said too much about Apache and it masked my real question, 
which is more to do with Php than Apache. 

I'm trying to get on board with the latest releases I can, so I would 
like to use a VC11 (Visual Studio 2012)/ /compiled version of Php and 
Apache (they must be the same if using the Php Apache module).  The 
Apache part is easy.  I can get a VC9 (Visual Studio 2008)/ /or VC11 
compiled version in 32 or 64 bit.  The tricky part seems to be Php. 

I've pretty much ruled out Php5.4 x64 bit as php.net labels all Php x64 
releases as "experimental."  So now my search has narrowed to finding a 
stable version of Php 5.4 x86 compiled with the VC11 compiler.  Does 
anyone know where I can find a VC11 compiled version of Php5.4?  And if 
so, have you integrated it with Apache (2.2 or 2.4) on Windows?

I'd like to use the latest software to avoid having to update sometime 
in the near future, but it looks like using Php5.4 is going to hold me back.

I do have another choice, and that is using Php5.5.  There are VC9 and 
VC11 versions at windows.php.net.  I could even try the 64 bit 
versions.  So question two would be, has anyone else successfully 
implemented a 64 bit version of Php5.5 on Windows (7+) using the Apache 
server module?

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#13343 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

Chuck Anderson wrote:

> I'll try again .... (also changed Subject)
> 
> Perhaps I said too much about Apache and it masked my real question,
> which is more to do with Php than Apache.
> I'm trying to get on board with the latest releases I can, so I would
> like to use a VC11 (Visual Studio 2012)/ /compiled version of Php and
> Apache (they must be the same if using the Php Apache module).  The
> Apache part is easy.  I can get a VC9 (Visual Studio 2008)/ /or VC11
> compiled version in 32 or 64 bit.  The tricky part seems to be Php.
> I've pretty much ruled out Php5.4 x64 bit as php.net labels all Php x64
> releases as "experimental."  So now my search has narrowed to finding a
> stable version of Php 5.4 x86 compiled with the VC11 compiler.  Does
> anyone know where I can find a VC11 compiled version of Php5.4?  And if
> so, have you integrated it with Apache (2.2 or 2.4) on Windows?
> 
> I'd like to use the latest software to avoid having to update sometime
> in the near future, but it looks like using Php5.4 is going to hold me
> back.
> 
> I do have another choice, and that is using Php5.5.  There are VC9 and
> VC11 versions at windows.php.net.  I could even try the 64 bit
> versions.  So question two would be, has anyone else successfully
> implemented a 64 bit version of Php5.5 on Windows (7+) using the Apache
> server module?

The x64 builds of PHP 5.5 are also flagged as experimental.  They may
work fine as long as you don't need additional extensions, because these
might not be compatible with the x64 builds.

I suggest you stick with Apache 2.4 builds for x32 for the time being;
these should work fine with latest PHP 5.5.11 VC11 x32.  XAMPP offers a
full download with quite recent versions for convenient installation and
use:

<https://www.apachefriends.org/blog/new_xampp_20140218.html>

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#13345 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

Am 07.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Christoph Michael Becker:
> Chuck Anderson wrote:
> 
>> I'll try again .... (also changed Subject)
>>
>> Perhaps I said too much about Apache and it masked my real question,
>> which is more to do with Php than Apache.
[...]
> I suggest you stick with Apache 2.4 builds for x32 for the time being;
> these should work fine with latest PHP 5.5.11 VC11 x32.  XAMPP offers a
> full download with quite recent versions for convenient installation and
> use:
> 
> <https://www.apachefriends.org/blog/new_xampp_20140218.html>

I assume, you confused "x32" with "win32" and had "x86" in mind ;-)


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#13346 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

Arno Welzel wrote:

> Am 07.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Christoph Michael Becker:
> 
> I assume, you confused "x32" with "win32" and had "x86" in mind ;-)

Upps!  Yes, of course it should have been x86.  Thanks for pointing that
out.

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#13352 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
> Chuck Anderson wrote:
>
>   
>> I'll try again .... (also changed Subject)
>>
>> Perhaps I said too much about Apache and it masked my real question,
>> which is more to do with Php than Apache.
>> I'm trying to get on board with the latest releases I can, so I would
>> like to use a VC11 (Visual Studio 2012)/ /compiled version of Php and
>> Apache (they must be the same if using the Php Apache module).  The
>> Apache part is easy.  I can get a VC9 (Visual Studio 2008)/ /or VC11
>> compiled version in 32 or 64 bit.  The tricky part seems to be Php.
>> I've pretty much ruled out Php5.4 x64 bit as php.net labels all Php x64
>> releases as "experimental."  So now my search has narrowed to finding a
>> stable version of Php 5.4 x86 compiled with the VC11 compiler.  Does
>> anyone know where I can find a VC11 compiled version of Php5.4?  And if
>> so, have you integrated it with Apache (2.2 or 2.4) on Windows?
>>
>> I'd like to use the latest software to avoid having to update sometime
>> in the near future, but it looks like using Php5.4 is going to hold me
>> back.
>>
>> I do have another choice, and that is using Php5.5.  There are VC9 and
>> VC11 versions at windows.php.net.  I could even try the 64 bit
>> versions.  So question two would be, has anyone else successfully
>> implemented a 64 bit version of Php5.5 on Windows (7+) using the Apache
>> server module?
>>     
>
> The x64 builds of PHP 5.5 are also flagged as experimental.  They may
> work fine as long as you don't need additional extensions, because these
> might not be compatible with the x64 builds.
>
> I suggest you stick with Apache 2.4 builds for x32 for the time being;
> these should work fine with latest PHP 5.5.11 VC11 x32.  XAMPP offers a
> full download with quite recent versions for convenient installation and
> use:
>
> <https://www.apachefriends.org/blog/new_xampp_20140218.html>
>
>   

I was hoping I could download just Php from there, but it is the 
complete XAMP installer and I don't want all the other stuff XAMP 
installs on my computer.  I already know how to install Apache, MySQL, 
and Php individually and I prefer it that way.

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#13354 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

In article <li2gc6$6c6$1@dont-email.me>,
 Chuck Anderson <cycletourist@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
> > Chuck Anderson wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I'll try again .... (also changed Subject)
> >>
> >> Perhaps I said too much about Apache and it masked my real question,
> >> which is more to do with Php than Apache.
> >> I'm trying to get on board with the latest releases I can, so I would
> >> like to use a VC11 (Visual Studio 2012)/ /compiled version of Php and
> >> Apache (they must be the same if using the Php Apache module).  The
> >> Apache part is easy.  I can get a VC9 (Visual Studio 2008)/ /or VC11
> >> compiled version in 32 or 64 bit.  The tricky part seems to be Php.
> >> I've pretty much ruled out Php5.4 x64 bit as php.net labels all Php x64
> >> releases as "experimental."  So now my search has narrowed to finding a
> >> stable version of Php 5.4 x86 compiled with the VC11 compiler.  Does
> >> anyone know where I can find a VC11 compiled version of Php5.4?  And if
> >> so, have you integrated it with Apache (2.2 or 2.4) on Windows?
> >>
> >> I'd like to use the latest software to avoid having to update sometime
> >> in the near future, but it looks like using Php5.4 is going to hold me
> >> back.
> >>
> >> I do have another choice, and that is using Php5.5.  There are VC9 and
> >> VC11 versions at windows.php.net.  I could even try the 64 bit
> >> versions.  So question two would be, has anyone else successfully
> >> implemented a 64 bit version of Php5.5 on Windows (7+) using the Apache
> >> server module?
> >>     
> >
> > The x64 builds of PHP 5.5 are also flagged as experimental.  They may
> > work fine as long as you don't need additional extensions, because these
> > might not be compatible with the x64 builds.
> >
> > I suggest you stick with Apache 2.4 builds for x32 for the time being;
> > these should work fine with latest PHP 5.5.11 VC11 x32.  XAMPP offers a
> > full download with quite recent versions for convenient installation and
> > use:
> >
> > <https://www.apachefriends.org/blog/new_xampp_20140218.html>
> >
> >   
> 
> I was hoping I could download just Php from there, but it is the 
> complete XAMP installer and I don't want all the other stuff XAMP 
> installs on my computer.  I already know how to install Apache, MySQL, 
> and Php individually and I prefer it that way.

The problem with php without some sort of package manager is that there 
are a bazillion options and library dependencies to build it from 
source. And you have to download and compile the right version of each 
one in order to build a working php.  I've been building stuff from make 
files for over 20 years and gave up after a week.  I just built the 
modules for the version that Apple supplies and that's good enough.  
When they upgrade it, I'll do the same.  Or I could have just used MAMP 
or MacPorts or HomeBrew to build it.

Your pragmatic attitude is most refreshing.

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#13347 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

On 4/6/2014 11:21 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> I'll try again .... (also changed Subject)
>
> Perhaps I said too much about Apache and it masked my real question,
> which is more to do with Php than Apache.
> I'm trying to get on board with the latest releases I can, so I would
> like to use a VC11 (Visual Studio 2012)/ /compiled version of Php and
> Apache (they must be the same if using the Php Apache module).  The
> Apache part is easy.  I can get a VC9 (Visual Studio 2008)/ /or VC11
> compiled version in 32 or 64 bit.  The tricky part seems to be Php.
> I've pretty much ruled out Php5.4 x64 bit as php.net labels all Php x64
> releases as "experimental."  So now my search has narrowed to finding a
> stable version of Php 5.4 x86 compiled with the VC11 compiler.  Does
> anyone know where I can find a VC11 compiled version of Php5.4?  And if
> so, have you integrated it with Apache (2.2 or 2.4) on Windows?
>
> I'd like to use the latest software to avoid having to update sometime
> in the near future, but it looks like using Php5.4 is going to hold me
> back.
>
> I do have another choice, and that is using Php5.5.  There are VC9 and
> VC11 versions t windows.php.net.  I could even try the 64 bit
> versions.  So question two would be, has anyone else successfully
> implemented a 64 bit version of Php5.5 on Windows (7+) using the Apache
> server module?
>

Is there a reason you need a 64 bit Windows version of Apache and PHP? 
Is there some feature there you need that doesn't exist in the 32 bit 
versions?

If not, I would suggest you stick with the Win32 bit versions of both. 
The 64 bit versions don't give you much of a performance advantage, and 
as you found out, PHP isn't fully supported (especially add-on modules, 
which may not be available).  If you really need the 64 bit version, I 
recommend installing Linux, which has great support for both 32 and 64 
bit versions.

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#13353 — Re: Install Php5.4+ Windows 64 bit and/or VC11 - with Apache

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 4/6/2014 11:21 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>> I'll try again .... (also changed Subject)
>>
>> Perhaps I said too much about Apache and it masked my real question,
>> which is more to do with Php than Apache.
>> I'm trying to get on board with the latest releases I can, so I would
>> like to use a VC11 (Visual Studio 2012)/ /compiled version of Php and
>> Apache (they must be the same if using the Php Apache module).  The
>> Apache part is easy.  I can get a VC9 (Visual Studio 2008)/ /or VC11
>> compiled version in 32 or 64 bit.  The tricky part seems to be Php.
>> I've pretty much ruled out Php5.4 x64 bit as php.net labels all Php x64
>> releases as "experimental."  So now my search has narrowed to finding a
>> stable version of Php 5.4 x86 compiled with the VC11 compiler.  Does
>> anyone know where I can find a VC11 compiled version of Php5.4?  And if
>> so, have you integrated it with Apache (2.2 or 2.4) on Windows?
>>
>> I'd like to use the latest software to avoid having to update sometime
>> in the near future, but it looks like using Php5.4 is going to hold me
>> back.
>>
>> I do have another choice, and that is using Php5.5.  There are VC9 and
>> VC11 versions t windows.php.net.  I could even try the 64 bit
>> versions.  So question two would be, has anyone else successfully
>> implemented a 64 bit version of Php5.5 on Windows (7+) using the Apache
>> server module?
>>
>
> Is there a reason you need a 64 bit Windows version of Apache and PHP? 
> Is there some feature there you need that doesn't exist in the 32 bit 
> versions?

No.  I just wanted to try to stay "current."
>
> If not, I would suggest you stick with the Win32 bit versions of both. 
> The 64 bit versions don't give you much of a performance advantage, 
> and as you found out, PHP isn't fully supported (especially add-on 
> modules, which may not be available).  If you really need the 64 bit 
> version, I recommend installing Linux, which has great support for 
> both 32 and 64 bit versions.
>

I appreciate the discussion and pointers from all who responded.  I 
think I'll just go with VC9 builds of 32 bit software.  It's what I use 
now and it works fine.  At this point I just need to get my new local 
server up and running so I can move on.

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