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| Started by | richard <noreply@example.com> |
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| First post | 2014-03-12 22:52 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-03-22 12:03 +0000 |
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willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-12 22:52 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-12 23:12 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-12 23:38 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:26 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:25 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-13 17:16 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-13 13:58 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-13 18:08 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-13 18:12 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:30 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:48 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-13 19:17 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-03-14 10:16 -0700
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-14 07:09 +0000
OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2014-03-14 18:42 +0100
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-14 18:10 +0000
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-03-23 17:35 +0100
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-14 14:46 -0400
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-03-14 12:43 -0700
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-14 22:13 +0000
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2014-03-14 21:34 +0100
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-14 22:12 +0000
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-14 21:13 -0400
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2014-03-14 22:53 -0400
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-03-20 10:23 +0100
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-14 15:18 -0400
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 01:49 +0000
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-14 21:58 -0400
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 07:04 +0000
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-03-20 10:26 +0100
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> - 2014-03-16 09:34 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-16 09:47 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-16 14:43 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-16 16:19 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-16 21:19 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gabe <usenet@moojuice.net> - 2014-03-16 21:24 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2014-03-20 12:50 +0100
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gabe <usenet@moojuice.net> - 2014-03-20 19:40 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2014-03-20 21:57 +0100
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-16 17:59 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-17 09:30 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-03-20 12:11 +0100
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jenna <xoajen@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 13:52 -0700
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-20 16:58 -0400
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jenna <xoajen@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 14:09 -0700
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2014-03-23 11:48 -0500
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-20 21:37 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-20 22:37 +0000
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-22 12:03 +0000
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| From | Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> |
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| Date | 2014-03-14 21:34 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <tn5cva-kqo.ln1@luuk.invalid.lan> |
| In reply to | #13140 |
On 14-3-2014 19:46, richard wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote: > >> On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote: >>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have a database setup <snip> >>>> If you want the job, you got it. >>> >>> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database >>> to work with and I'll have a go for free :) >>> >> >> >> I'm curious..... >> >> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here? >> >> Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization. >> >> (yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;) > > because the master dorks in this group say it is. i don't care about dorks.... > php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway. > Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php? yeas, i use mysql more often than i use php > IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php. > lol, who's the dork here......
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| From | Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-14 22:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <XnsA2F0B920D6768dougmilmaccom@78.46.70.116> |
| In reply to | #13140 |
richard <noreply@example.com> wrote in news:itrl6zzypeyf.1apf15wetw6wq.dlg@ 40tude.net: > php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway. So do I and my wife, but even you would be capable of recognizing us as distinctly different entities. > Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php? Of course you can. MySQL commands can be issued from the command line, or from a front-end client written in any of several different languages including C#, Python, or Ruby. > IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php. Even had you made a deliberate effort to do so, you could not possibly have done a better job of demonstrating the utter worthlessness of your opinions than you did with that ridiculous statement. PHP is a programming language. MySQL is a database management system. They can function together, or they can function separately. Just because an application can be built using both PHP and MySQL does not make MySQL a "subset" of PHP any more than the fact that a house is built from lumber and plaster makes plaster a "subset" of lumber.
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-14 21:13 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <lg09fg$69l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13146 |
On 3/14/2014 6:12 PM, Doug Miller wrote: > richard <noreply@example.com> wrote in news:itrl6zzypeyf.1apf15wetw6wq.dlg@ > 40tude.net: > >> php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway. > > So do I and my wife, but even you would be capable of recognizing us as distinctly different > entities. > >> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php? > > Of course you can. MySQL commands can be issued from the command line, or from a > front-end client written in any of several different languages including C#, Python, or Ruby. > >> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php. > > Even had you made a deliberate effort to do so, you could not possibly have done a better > job of demonstrating the utter worthlessness of your opinions than you did with that > ridiculous statement. > > PHP is a programming language. MySQL is a database management system. They can > function together, or they can function separately. Just because an application can be built > using both PHP and MySQL does not make MySQL a "subset" of PHP any more than the > fact that a house is built from lumber and plaster makes plaster a "subset" of lumber. > You assume RTS knows the difference between a programming language and a database management system... -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-14 22:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <lg0fb8$5ak$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13140 |
On 03/14/2014 02:46 PM, richard wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote: > >> On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote: >>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have a database setup <snip> >>>> If you want the job, you got it. >>> >>> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database >>> to work with and I'll have a go for free :) >>> >> >> >> I'm curious..... >> >> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here? >> >> Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization. >> >> (yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;) > > because the master dorks in this group say it is. > php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway. > Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php? > IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php. > Great, now my coffee's on the screen! -- Norman Registered Linux user #461062 -Have you been to www.php.net yet?-
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2014-03-20 10:23 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <532AB39A.7050803@arnowelzel.de> |
| In reply to | #13140 |
Am 14.03.2014 19:46, schrieb richard: [...] > php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway. Yep - like any other language and MySQL. > Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php? Yes, of course. MySQL is a database system and has nothing to do with PHP at all. There is a command line client for MySQL and you can use it with many other languages - Perl, Python, C++, Java... PHP just supports using MySQL - as one of many options. But you can also use PostgreSQL, SQLite, Oracle etc.. > IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php. Ouch... -- Arno Welzel http://arnowelzel.de http://de-rec-fahrrad.de
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-14 15:18 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <lfvkmh$dl8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13138 |
On 3/14/2014 1:42 PM, Luuk wrote: > On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote: >> >> >>> I have a database setup <snip> >>> If you want the job, you got it. >> >> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database >> to work with and I'll have a go for free :) >> > > > I'm curious..... > > Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here? > > Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization. > > (yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;) Because Richard is asking for help, and the ability to do a good job on a website depends in part on a properly normalized database. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-15 01:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <lg0bij$pq8$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13141 |
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:18:50 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Because Richard is asking for help, and the ability to do a good job on > a website depends in part on a properly normalized database. I'm still trying to figure out how the JS element is meant to figure out that the song is being played. Especially if it's been saved outside of the browser, eg downloaded with a tool such as wget, or just lifted from the browser cache. The only semi-reliable way of tracking accesses to a given file is going to be monitoring requests for that file server side. Mind you, I suspect RtS will be bankrupt from paying music license fees before he gets the site up and running anyway. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-14 21:58 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <lg0c38$k7r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13151 |
On 3/14/2014 9:49 PM, Denis McMahon wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:18:50 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> Because Richard is asking for help, and the ability to do a good job on >> a website depends in part on a properly normalized database. > > I'm still trying to figure out how the JS element is meant to figure out > that the song is being played. > > Especially if it's been saved outside of the browser, eg downloaded with > a tool such as wget, or just lifted from the browser cache. > > The only semi-reliable way of tracking accesses to a given file is going > to be monitoring requests for that file server side. > > Mind you, I suspect RtS will be bankrupt from paying music license fees > before he gets the site up and running anyway. > You can't monitor it server-side. For instance, there is no way to relate a file fetches by wget with a browser. I would fetch the music with an AJAX request and track it that way. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-15 07:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <lg0u1l$r93$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13138 |
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote: > Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here? About 45% of RtS posts here relate directly to his inability to either produce a correct sql query string in php or to properly handle the results of a query, a significant part of which seems to be caused by his fucked up approach to database design. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2014-03-20 10:26 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP |
| Message-ID | <532AB432.4080704@arnowelzel.de> |
| In reply to | #13155 |
Am 15.03.2014 08:04, schrieb Denis McMahon: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote: > >> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here? > > About 45% of RtS posts here relate directly to his inability to either > produce a correct sql query string in php or to properly handle the > results of a query, a significant part of which seems to be caused by his > fucked up approach to database design. And the remaining problems usually where caused by mixing up "=" and "==". *scnr* -- Arno Welzel http://arnowelzel.de http://de-rec-fahrrad.de
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| From | Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 09:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2014031609345682397-usenet@moojuicenet> |
| In reply to | #13116 |
On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said: > Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit > more script to add to it. > > I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played. > What I want a script for is this: > JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database > and report it. > Or maybe in some possible way using ajax? > > On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP > would report the "hit" as the song is chosen. > > If you want the job, you got it. Hi Richard Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it. Let me know if I can help. My site: http://www.moojuice.net Cheers Gabe
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 09:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lg4a16$dbe$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13160 |
On 3/16/2014 5:34 AM, Gabriel wrote: > On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said: > >> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a >> bit >> more script to add to it. >> >> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played. >> What I want a script for is this: >> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the >> database >> and report it. >> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax? >> >> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so >> that PHP >> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen. >> >> If you want the job, you got it. > > Hi Richard > > Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your code, > make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it. > > Let me know if I can help. > > My site: http://www.moojuice.net > > Cheers > > Gabe > ROFLMAO! Richard found himself a sucker! -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 14:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA2F26CCF2E67Fdougmilmaccom@78.46.70.116> |
| In reply to | #13160 |
Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397- usenet@moojuicenet: > On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said: > >> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit >> more script to add to it. >> >> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played. >> What I want a script for is this: >> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database >> and report it. >> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax? >> >> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP >> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen. >> >> If you want the job, you got it. > > Hi Richard > > Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your > code, make, and then test your proposed changes Ł50 should cover it. > > Let me know if I can help. Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months.
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| From | richard <noreply@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 16:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1kd69577c1x2s.19srroret44hh.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #13163 |
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: > Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397- > usenet@moojuicenet: > >> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said: >> >>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit >>> more script to add to it. >>> >>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played. >>> What I want a script for is this: >>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database >>> and report it. >>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax? >>> >>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP >>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen. >>> >>> If you want the job, you got it. >> >> Hi Richard >> >> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your >> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it. >> >> Let me know if I can help. > > Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on > www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months. Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play God, Judge, jury and executioner? A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information. Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job. Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database. I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you highly normalised asswipes to comprehend. What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid, hits, title,artist? Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"? You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an example. Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer. You two instantly bash him because he responded to me. Sorry Gabe, for the bashing. As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want done. Both of you owe Gabe an apology. If you want to bash me, bash me.
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| From | Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 21:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA2F2B001BDED4dougmilmaccom@78.46.70.116> |
| In reply to | #13165 |
richard <noreply@example.com> wrote in news:1kd69577c1x2s.19srroret44hh.dlg@ 40tude.net: > Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around > simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database. > I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you > highly normalised asswipes to comprehend. No, you're getting kicked around and laughed at because of your aggressive rejection of sound database design principles for no reason other than your own failure to understand them. > Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer. > You two instantly bash him because he responded to me. I didn't bash him. I simply predicted that he will not find working with you to be a pleasant experience. And I stand by that prediction. > Both of you owe Gabe an apology. What for? > If you want to bash me, bash me. That's what I've been doing.
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| From | Gabe <usenet@moojuice.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 21:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2014031621241990080-usenet@moojuicenet> |
| In reply to | #13165 |
On 2014-03-16 20:19:23 +0000, richard said: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: > >> Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397- >> usenet@moojuicenet: >> >>> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said: >>> >>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit >>>> more script to add to it. >>>> >>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played. >>>> What I want a script for is this: >>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database >>>> and report it. >>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax? >>>> >>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP >>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen. >>>> >>>> If you want the job, you got it. >>> >>> Hi Richard >>> >>> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your >>> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it. >>> >>> Let me know if I can help. >> >> Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on >> www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months. > > Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play > God, Judge, jury and executioner? > A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would > capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information. > Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job. > Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around > simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database. > I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you > highly normalised asswipes to comprehend. > What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid, > hits, title,artist? > Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"? > You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an > example. > > Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer. > You two instantly bash him because he responded to me. > Sorry Gabe, for the bashing. > As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds > like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want > done. > > Both of you owe Gabe an apology. > If you want to bash me, bash me. Richard, I am the Head of International IT (which also means senior developer and lead tech) for a large well-known cosmetics company. Since bcoming employed with them 3 years ago I have headed up the develpment and subsequent launch of 28 inertnational sites for various countries in which they operate. I am also hold Certified Application Security Tester (CAST) and Certified Security Testing Associate (CSTA) qualifications issued by 7Safe. By all means I can be considered over-qualified for your job that would require very basic web coding that I would expect from one of our junior developers. I need to earn a living just like anyone else and do not consider myself "above" any work, I also don't feel the need nor inclination to discuss my curriculum vitae on a public newgroup. If you still need someone to give you a hand with this job, or any other little jobs then email me directly and you ask me whatever questions you feel necessary to establish my legitimacy. As for me, I don't really care if you are client from hell or heaven, so long as you pay the agreed price when I've completed the agreed work. By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS to listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then writing the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make some DB queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this, just a few minutes. Look forward to hearing from you. Gabe
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| From | Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-20 12:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lgekm4$9ns$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13170 |
Am 16.03.2014 22:24, Gabe meinte: [bragging snipped] > By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS to > listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then writing > the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make some DB > queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this, just a few > minutes. A few minutes? That's something between 5 and maybe 10? For all the above stuff (including "handling the response" I assume)? Seems as if you are fully richard-compatible. Gregor
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| From | Gabe <usenet@moojuice.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-20 19:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <OuHWu.45917$Xf4.25442@fx13.am4> |
| In reply to | #13246 |
On 20/03/2014 11:50, Gregor Kofler wrote: > Am 16.03.2014 22:24, Gabe meinte: > > [bragging snipped] > >> By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS to >> listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then writing >> the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make some DB >> queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this, just a few >> minutes. > > A few minutes? That's something between 5 and maybe 10? For all the > above stuff (including "handling the response" I assume)? Seems as if > you are fully richard-compatible. > > Gregor Absolutey, just a few minutes of actual coding. This is very run-of-the-mill stuff, waaaay too easy but I'm always up for earning some easy income. It would probably have taken 45 mins to an hour in total, most of the time would be taken understanding the existing application since I've not worked on his before. Actual coding of ajax calls, PHP handler, and database queries should not take more than 10 minutes. I mean he was asking for some super-easy work to be done!
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| From | Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-20 21:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lgfko0$50p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13252 |
Am 20.03.2014 20:40, Gabe meinte: > On 20/03/2014 11:50, Gregor Kofler wrote: >> Am 16.03.2014 22:24, Gabe meinte: >> >> [bragging snipped] >> >>> By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS to >>> listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then writing >>> the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make some DB >>> queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this, just a few >>> minutes. >> >> A few minutes? That's something between 5 and maybe 10? For all the >> above stuff (including "handling the response" I assume)? Seems as if >> you are fully richard-compatible. >> >> Gregor > >It would probably have taken 45 mins to an hour in > total, most of the time would be taken understanding the existing > application since I've not worked on his before. Actual coding of ajax > calls, PHP handler, and database queries should not take more than 10 > minutes. That makes more sense. Given richard's record in this NG I wouldn't take it for granted to understand the existing "application" in 45 minutes (or at least the relevant parts of it). Gregor
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 17:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lg56sq$rrt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13165 |
On 3/16/2014 4:19 PM, richard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: > >> Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397- >> usenet@moojuicenet: >> >>> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said: >>> >>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit >>>> more script to add to it. >>>> >>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played. >>>> What I want a script for is this: >>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database >>>> and report it. >>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax? >>>> >>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP >>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen. >>>> >>>> If you want the job, you got it. >>> >>> Hi Richard >>> >>> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your >>> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it. >>> >>> Let me know if I can help. >> >> Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on >> www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months. > > Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play > God, Judge, jury and executioner? > A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would > capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information. > Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job. Wrong. I have NEVER done any work for you. > Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around > simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database. And are unwilling to learn. > I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you > highly normalised asswipes to comprehend. > What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid, > hits, title,artist? > Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"? > You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an > example. > I'm not going to repeat things which are easily available on the internet. > Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer. > You two instantly bash him because he responded to me. > Sorry Gabe, for the bashing. > As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds > like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want > done. > > Both of you owe Gabe an apology. > If you want to bash me, bash me. > No, he just doesn't know you. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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