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  Apache HTTP Server Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> - 2013-12-07 20:20 -0500
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-12-08 02:45 +0100
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-12-07 21:07 -0500
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-12-08 02:19 +0000
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Dave Pyles <dave@user.invalid> - 2013-12-07 21:41 -0500
      Re: Apache HTTP Server Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-12-07 21:44 -0500
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2013-12-07 20:52 -0600
      Re: Apache HTTP Server Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-12-07 23:47 -0500
      Re: Apache HTTP Server Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-12-08 10:13 +0100
      Re: Apache HTTP Server Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-12-08 12:48 +0100
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> - 2013-12-07 21:34 -0800
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-12-08 12:46 +0100
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-08 17:47 +0000
      Re: Apache HTTP Server Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-12-08 13:23 -0500
        Re: Apache HTTP Server Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2013-12-08 19:47 +0100
          Re: Apache HTTP Server Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-12-08 13:54 -0500
            Re: Apache HTTP Server Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2013-12-08 20:32 +0100
              Re: Apache HTTP Server Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-12-08 15:51 -0500
        Re: Apache HTTP Server Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-08 19:51 +0000
          Re: Apache HTTP Server Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-12-08 15:53 -0500
          Re: Apache HTTP Server Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-12-08 16:42 -0800
            Re: Apache HTTP Server Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-12-09 16:44 +0100
              Re: Apache HTTP Server Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-12-09 08:13 -0800
    Re: Apache HTTP Server Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> - 2013-12-10 16:50 -0500

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#12178 — Apache HTTP Server

Hello,
I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:

Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]

Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]

Binaries 

Security and official patches 

Other files 

but gives no clue what to download, how to run an install, etc.
Have I missed something obvious,
please, thanks,
Graham Hobbs

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#12179

Graham Hobbs wrote:

> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only.

Apache is an HTTP _server_.  Therefore, searching for newsgroups that have 
“server” in their name will quickly get you the correct one.

> So I have a question. […]

Take it elsewhere.  This is a *PHP* newsgroup.


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#12180

On 12/7/2013 8:20 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
> Hello,
> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
>
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>
> Binaries
>
> Security and official patches
>
> Other files
>
> but gives no clue what to download, how to run an install, etc.
> Have I missed something obvious,
> please, thanks,
> Graham Hobbs
>

Try an Apache newsgroup.


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#12181

Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> writes:

> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only.

comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows looks like a reasonable place to
post, but the group looks almost dead.  Maybe your post will revive it!

<snip>
-- 
Ben.

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#12182

On 12/7/2013 8:20 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
> Hello,
> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
>
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>
> Binaries
>
> Security and official patches
>
> Other files
>
> but gives no clue what to download, how to run an install, etc.
> Have I missed something obvious,
> please, thanks,
> Graham Hobbs
>
Download and install WAMP (http://www.wampserver.com/en/) and get 
Apache, PHP and MySQL plus PHPMyAdmin to create a dvlopmnt nvironmnt on 
a Windows machin, then use the newsgroup alt.apache.configuration 
instead of this group for questions about setting up apache.

Dave Pyles

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#12183

On 12/7/2013 9:41 PM, Dave Pyles wrote:
> On 12/7/2013 8:20 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
>> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
>> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
>>
>> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>>
>> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>>
>> Binaries
>>
>> Security and official patches
>>
>> Other files
>>
>> but gives no clue what to download, how to run an install, etc.
>> Have I missed something obvious,
>> please, thanks,
>> Graham Hobbs
>>
> Download and install WAMP (http://www.wampserver.com/en/) and get
> Apache, PHP and MySQL plus PHPMyAdmin to create a dvlopmnt nvironmnt on
> a Windows machin, then use the newsgroup alt.apache.configuration
> instead of this group for questions about setting up apache.
>
> Dave Pyles

Bad answer.  WAMP is simple to set up but one doesn't learn necessary 
things like how to configure Apache for any installation other than what 
WAMP gives you.

This is *exactly* why we are pointing him to a newsgroup where he will 
get *good* answers.


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#12184

At Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:20:02 -0500 Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:

Really, the easiest solution is to install something like VirtualBox and
install any Linux distro (eg Ubuntu) as a virtual machine. *Every* Linux
distribution includes Apache, PHP, and MySql in the distro's package
repository. Distros like Ubuntu have a nice point-and-click package management
system, where you can just do a few points and clicks and have a LAMP system
up with almost no effort at all.

> 
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
> 
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]

These are sources and need to be compiled, which is somewhat non-trivial task, 
partitularly under MS-Windows.

> 
> Binaries 
> 
> Security and official patches 
> 
> Other files 
> 
> but gives no clue what to download, how to run an install, etc.
> Have I missed something obvious,
> please, thanks,

The Apache site probably does NOT have binary installer for Apache's http,
esp. for MS-Windows. You can try to search for 'WAMP installer' or something
like that, but setting up a LAMP server as a virtual machine might actually be
both easier and will likely work better. While building Apache HTTPD for
MS-Windows is possible, it is not going to be easy and it is a *minority*
thing, and something of an job for an expert.

> Graham Hobbs
>                                                                                                      

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#12185

On 12/7/2013 9:52 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:20:02 -0500 Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
>> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
>> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
>
> Really, the easiest solution is to install something like VirtualBox and
> install any Linux distro (eg Ubuntu) as a virtual machine. *Every* Linux
> distribution includes Apache, PHP, and MySql in the distro's package
> repository. Distros like Ubuntu have a nice point-and-click package management
> system, where you can just do a few points and clicks and have a LAMP system
> up with almost no effort at all.
>

You really expect him to learn a whole new operating system when all he 
wants is a web server?


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#12187

Robert Heller wrote:

> Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
>> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
>> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
> 
> Really, the easiest solution is to install something like VirtualBox and
> install any Linux distro (eg Ubuntu) as a virtual machine.

No, it is not.

> *Every* Linux distribution includes Apache, PHP, and MySql in the distro's
> package repository. 

There are Apache, PHP, and MySQL versions for Windows.  There are 
distributions like XAMPP that make setup easy.  Using a VM instead makes 
sense if you want to deploy on a *Linux* server but absolutely do not want 
to dual-boot to Linux for the development environment.

The OP has not stated production requirements so as to allow you to make 
that assessment.  Indeed, the fact that they have not found the Windows 
versions yet is indication that a VirtualBox setup would be way over their 
head.  You have given poor advice.

Please do not top-post.


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#12189

Robert Heller, 2013-12-08 03:52:

[...]
> The Apache site probably does NOT have binary installer for Apache's http,
> esp. for MS-Windows. You can try to search for 'WAMP installer' or something

Or just have a look at the Apache documentation:

<http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/en/platform/windows.html#down>

And for PHP:

<http://php.net/manual/en/install.windows.apache2.php>


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#12186

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:20:02 -0500, Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net>
wrote:

>Hello,
>I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
>have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
>but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:

alt.apache.configuration
dist.apache

come to mind...
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#12188

Graham Hobbs, 2013-12-08 02:20:

> Hello,
> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
> 
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
> 
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
> 
> Binaries 
> 
> Security and official patches 
> 
> Other files 
> 
> but gives no clue what to download, how to run an install, etc.
[...]

See <http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/en/platform/windows.html>


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#12191

In article <81h7a95s0rd34lqkjpktql1l3hnlrk4ndf@4ax.com>, Graham Hobbs
<ghobbs@cdpwise.net> wrote:

> Hello,
> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
> 
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
> 
> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]

By now you will have seen rude replies from various dweebs; feel free
to ignore them, even though strickly speaking they are right.

If you click on the binaries link, and then win32, you will get to here:

<http://mirrors.enquira.co.uk/apache//httpd/binaries/win32/>

from where you can download a .msi file for 2.2.25. This is an
installer which works on win7 - I have apache 2.2.25 running as I type.
AIUI, there is no windows installer for a more recent version of apache
- if anyone know anything to the contrary I'd like to hear it.

There is also the apache users mailing list which you may or may not
find useful.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#12192

On 12/8/2013 12:47 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <81h7a95s0rd34lqkjpktql1l3hnlrk4ndf@4ax.com>, Graham Hobbs
> <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
>> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
>> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
>>
>> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>>
>> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>
> By now you will have seen rude replies from various dweebs; feel free
> to ignore them, even though strickly speaking they are right.
>
> If you click on the binaries link, and then win32, you will get to here:
>
> <http://mirrors.enquira.co.uk/apache//httpd/binaries/win32/>
>
> from where you can download a .msi file for 2.2.25. This is an
> installer which works on win7 - I have apache 2.2.25 running as I type.
> AIUI, there is no windows installer for a more recent version of apache
> - if anyone know anything to the contrary I'd like to hear it.
>
> There is also the apache users mailing list which you may or may not
> find useful.
>

This is EXACTLY why they should be asking in the correct newsgroup. 
They will get good answers - not stoopid ones.

And just maybe, if you looked in the right place, you could find more 
recent Windows versions.  But that's well beyond your capacity for 
understanding.


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#12194

On 08-12-2013 19:23, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> But that's well beyond your capacity for understanding.

what a 'wise' words....

NOT

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#12195

On 12/8/2013 1:47 PM, Luuk wrote:
> On 08-12-2013 19:23, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> But that's well beyond your capacity for understanding.
>
> what a 'wise' words....
>
> NOT
>
>

The truth always hurts.  And in Tim's case, it's the real truth.

Why do you think there are tens of thousands of newsgroups?  Just maybe 
it's so that experts on a subject can congregate in one place.

But then there are a lot of people who think just because they can spell 
PHP that makes them an expert in everything.

NOT.


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#12196

On 08-12-2013 19:54, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 12/8/2013 1:47 PM, Luuk wrote:
>> On 08-12-2013 19:23, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> But that's well beyond your capacity for understanding.
>>
>> what a 'wise' words....
>>
>> NOT
>>
>>
>
> The truth always hurts.  And in Tim's case, it's the real truth.
>
> Why do you think there are tens of thousands of newsgroups?  Just maybe
> it's so that experts on a subject can congregate in one place.
>
> But then there are a lot of people who think just because they can spell
> PHP that makes them an expert in everything.
>
> NOT.
>
>

Why is it impossible for you to give a reaction without getting personal?

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#12199

On 12/8/2013 2:32 PM, Luuk wrote:
> On 08-12-2013 19:54, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 12/8/2013 1:47  PM, Luuk wrote:
>>> On 08-12-2013 19:23, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> But that's well beyond your capacity for understanding.
>>>
>>> what a 'wise' words....
>>>
>>> NOT
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The truth always hurts.  And in Tim's case, it's the real truth.
>>
>> Why do you think there are tens of thousands of newsgroups?  Just maybe
>> it's so that experts on a subject can congregate in one place.
>>
>> But then there are a lot of people who think just because they can spell
>> PHP that makes them an expert in everything.
>>
>> NOT.
>>
>>
>
> Why is it impossible for you to give a reaction without getting personal?

Maybe because I have no patience for trolls.


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#12197

In article <l82dfc$g5h$1@dont-email.me>, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

> On 12/8/2013 12:47 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> > In article <81h7a95s0rd34lqkjpktql1l3hnlrk4ndf@4ax.com>, Graham Hobbs
> > <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
> >> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
> >> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
> >>
> >> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
> >>
> >> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
> >
> > By now you will have seen rude replies from various dweebs; feel free
> > to ignore them, even though strickly speaking they are right.
> >
> > If you click on the binaries link, and then win32, you will get to here:
> >
> > <http://mirrors.enquira.co.uk/apache//httpd/binaries/win32/>
> >
> > from where you can download a .msi file for 2.2.25. This is an
> > installer which works on win7 - I have apache 2.2.25 running as I type.
> > AIUI, there is no windows installer for a more recent version of apache
> > - if anyone know anything to the contrary I'd like to hear it.
> >
> > There is also the apache users mailing list which you may or may not
> > find useful.
> 
> This is EXACTLY why they should be asking in the correct newsgroup. 
> They will get good answers - not stoopid ones.
> 
> And just maybe, if you looked in the right place, you could find more 
> recent Windows versions.  But that's well beyond your capacity for 
> understanding.

Do stop being a cunt, there's a good boy. A careful reader of what I
wrote would have seen that I found an installer for 2.2.25, and noted
the disclaimers attached thereto.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#12200

On 12/8/2013 2:51 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <l82dfc$g5h$1@dont-email.me>, Jerry Stuckle
> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:47 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> > In article <81h7a95s0rd34lqkjpktql1l3hnlrk4ndf@4ax.com>, Graham Hobbs
>> > <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >> I searched my newsgroups for Apache and got a Japan hit only. So I
>> >> have a question. On my new Win7 laptop I have to install this software
>> >> but the Apache website download puzzles me. It lists several files:
>> >>
>> >> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.bz2 [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>> >>
>> >> Source: httpd-2.4.7.tar.gz [ PGP ] [ MD5 ] [ SHA1 ]
>> >
>> > By now you will have seen rude replies from various dweebs; feel free
>> > to ignore them, even though strickly speaking they are right.
>> >
>> > If you click on the binaries link, and then win32, you will get to
>> here:
>> >
>> > <http://mirrors.enquira.co.uk/apache//httpd/binaries/win32/>
>> >
>> > from where you can download a .msi file for 2.2.25. This is an
>> > installer which works on win7 - I have apache 2.2.25 running as I type.
>> > AIUI, there is no windows installer for a more recent version of apache
>> > - if anyone know anything to the contrary I'd like to hear it.
>> >
>> > There is also the apache users mailing list which you may or may not
>> > find useful.
>>
>> This is EXACTLY why they should be asking in the correct newsgroup.
>> They will get good answers - not stoopid ones.
>>
>> And just maybe, if you looked in the right place, you could find more
>> recent Windows versions.  But that's well beyond your capacity for
>> understanding.
>
> Do stop being a cunt, there's a good boy. A careful reader of what I
> wrote would have seen that I found an installer for 2.2.25, and noted
> the disclaimers attached thereto.
>

And just maybe, if you looked in the right place in the first place, you 
would have found a more recent Windows version.  But that's still well 
beyond your capacity for understanding.

So you have to resort to swearing.  Now go home, little boy, and ask 
your mommy to wash your mouth out with soap.

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