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  A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-20 12:00 +0100
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-20 12:40 +0100
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-20 14:29 +0100
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2013-07-20 13:41 +0200
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-20 08:46 -0400
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2013-07-20 17:09 +0200
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-20 18:12 +0200
        Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 18:08 +0100
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-20 13:40 -0400
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-20 18:33 +0000
        Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 18:14 +0100
          Re: A curious thing...about tags. Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2013-07-21 14:31 -0400
            Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 20:35 +0100
              Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-21 18:21 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-22 08:47 +0100
                  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-22 09:13 +0100
                    Re: A curious thing...about tags. "Alex vdB" <alex@invalid> - 2013-07-22 11:15 +0200
                      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:30 -0400
                        Re: A curious thing...about tags. "AvdB" <nomail@example.invalid> - 2013-07-23 00:13 +0200
                        Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-07-24 22:58 +0200
                  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:31 -0400
                  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:31 -0400
                    Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-22 15:25 +0100
                      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:46 -0400
                    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-22 17:41 +0100
                      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 19:14 +0000
                        Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 17:00 -0400
                          Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 21:29 +0000
                            Re: A curious thing...about tags. Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-23 00:27 +0200
                            Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 19:27 -0400
                              Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:56 -0400
                                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 20:59 -0400
                            Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-23 20:02 +0100
                      Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:52 -0400
                        Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-23 09:40 +0000
                          Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-23 06:22 -0400
                          Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-23 13:07 +0100

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#10176

On 07/22/2013 03:47 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 21/07/13 23:21, Norman Peelman wrote:
>> On 07/21/2013 03:35 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 21/07/13 19:31, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 7/21/13 1:14 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 20/07/13 19:33, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:09:37 +0200, Thomas Mlynarczyk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher schrieb:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> suppose I want my string to be "?> something <?"
>>>>>>>> How on earth is it possible to STOP PHP interpreting that as some
>>>>>>>> blasted 'escape to outputting text'
>>>>>>> Sorry, but I still don't quite see the problem. PHP will happily
>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>> the above string as what it is: a simple string. It will not try to
>>>>>>> interpret the <? or ?> contained within that string (why should
>>>>>>> it?).
>>>>>> Thomas, the problem is with the ability of the poster you are
>>>>>> applying to
>>>>>> to comprehend and understand string handling in php, and what his
>>>>>> browser
>>>>>> views as an element.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of us understood the need to use &lt; and why in html if we
>>>>>> wanted a
>>>>>> less than symbol within a few months at most of starting to use html.
>>>>>> Some others will never understand it.
>>>>> The problem is of course that you have totally failed to understand
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem I was in fact having.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has NOTHING to do with the browser.
>>>>> The string output was never going anywhere NEAR a browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem was how to CONSTRUCT a string using PHP, to put in a
>>>>> file or
>>>>> a database, that contain PHP escape sequences.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without. PHP interpreting them AS escape sequences.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is given the string $something, how to make
>>>>> $new="?>".$something."<?";
>>>>>
>>>>>   without PHP instantly thinking you wanted to print $something on
>>>>> stdout.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, as you have noticed, the failure modes that some people post
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not the failures that occur in the circumstances they describe. When
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> see this, you can usually assume that the person concerned does
>>>>>> not, to
>>>>>> use a common term, know their arse from their elbow.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or in this case,.. the person his not bothered to understand the
>>>>> actual
>>>>> problem being described.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The issue is that the PHP interpreter is defined to be smart enough
>>>> that
>>>> the ?> closing tag should NOT be recognized inside a quoted string the
>>>> way you have stated. It is almost certainly some other problem.
>>>>
>>>> Can you post an EXACT COMPLETE example showing the problem and the
>>>> output you get (view source on the page)?
>>> I managed to get it to work, as I stated earlier..
>>>
>>> This was the final code which works, hopefully not by some versional
>>> quirk
>>>
>>> $run="?>".$run;
>>> $run= $run."<?";
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>   If that works, then so should your original example... as well as:
>>
>> $run="?> $something <?";
>>
>>   Can you post an example of what wasn't working with output? And
>> where the output is going? Cannot duplicate here.
>>
>> norman@amd64x2:~$ php -version
>> PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.19 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Mar 11 2013
>> 15:23:48)
>> Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group
>> Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies
>>
>> norman@amd64x2:~$ php -a
>> Interactive shell
>>
>> php > $something="my text";
>> php > $run="?> $something <?";
>> php > echo $run;
>> ?> my text <?
>>
>>
> In my setup that produces no output at all.
> Mind you php -a doesnt produce any output from
> php> echo "this";
>
> either..
>
> Nor even a command prompt
>
> It just sits there...
>
>
>
>

Maybe this will help:

http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.interactive.php

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#10177

On 07/22/2013 03:47 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 21/07/13 23:21, Norman Peelman wrote:
>> On 07/21/2013 03:35 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 21/07/13 19:31, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 7/21/13 1:14 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 20/07/13 19:33, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:09:37 +0200, Thomas Mlynarczyk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher schrieb:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> suppose I want my string to be "?> something <?"
>>>>>>>> How on earth is it possible to STOP PHP interpreting that as some
>>>>>>>> blasted 'escape to outputting text'
>>>>>>> Sorry, but I still don't quite see the problem. PHP will happily
>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>> the above string as what it is: a simple string. It will not try to
>>>>>>> interpret the <? or ?> contained within that string (why should
>>>>>>> it?).
>>>>>> Thomas, the problem is with the ability of the poster you are
>>>>>> applying to
>>>>>> to comprehend and understand string handling in php, and what his
>>>>>> browser
>>>>>> views as an element.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of us understood the need to use &lt; and why in html if we
>>>>>> wanted a
>>>>>> less than symbol within a few months at most of starting to use html.
>>>>>> Some others will never understand it.
>>>>> The problem is of course that you have totally failed to understand
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem I was in fact having.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has NOTHING to do with the browser.
>>>>> The string output was never going anywhere NEAR a browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem was how to CONSTRUCT a string using PHP, to put in a
>>>>> file or
>>>>> a database, that contain PHP escape sequences.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without. PHP interpreting them AS escape sequences.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is given the string $something, how to make
>>>>> $new="?>".$something."<?";
>>>>>
>>>>>   without PHP instantly thinking you wanted to print $something on
>>>>> stdout.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, as you have noticed, the failure modes that some people post
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not the failures that occur in the circumstances they describe. When
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> see this, you can usually assume that the person concerned does
>>>>>> not, to
>>>>>> use a common term, know their arse from their elbow.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or in this case,.. the person his not bothered to understand the
>>>>> actual
>>>>> problem being described.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The issue is that the PHP interpreter is defined to be smart enough
>>>> that
>>>> the ?> closing tag should NOT be recognized inside a quoted string the
>>>> way you have stated. It is almost certainly some other problem.
>>>>
>>>> Can you post an EXACT COMPLETE example showing the problem and the
>>>> output you get (view source on the page)?
>>> I managed to get it to work, as I stated earlier..
>>>
>>> This was the final code which works, hopefully not by some versional
>>> quirk
>>>
>>> $run="?>".$run;
>>> $run= $run."<?";
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>   If that works, then so should your original example... as well as:
>>
>> $run="?> $something <?";
>>
>>   Can you post an example of what wasn't working with output? And
>> where the output is going? Cannot duplicate here.
>>
>> norman@amd64x2:~$ php -version
>> PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.19 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Mar 11 2013
>> 15:23:48)
>> Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group
>> Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies
>>
>> norman@amd64x2:~$ php -a
>> Interactive shell
>>
>> php > $something="my text";
>> php > $run="?> $something <?";
>> php > echo $run;
>> ?> my text <?
>>
>>
> In my setup that produces no output at all.
> Mind you php -a doesnt produce any output from
> php> echo "this";
>
> either..
>
> Nor even a command prompt
>
> It just sits there...
>
>

   Well, then how are you 'running' your code? You show a command prompt 
above. The interactive shell executes each line as you type it in. I 
can't even imagine what your setup is without you telling.


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#10178

On 22/07/13 11:31, Norman Peelman wrote:
> On 07/22/2013 03:47 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> In my setup that produces no output at all.
>> Mind you php -a doesnt produce any output from
>> php> echo "this";
>>
>> either..
>>
>> Nor even a command prompt
>>
>> It just sits there...
>>
>>
>
>   Well, then how are you 'running' your code? You show a command 
> prompt above. The interactive shell executes each line as you type it 
> in. I can't even imagine what your setup is without you telling.
>
>
Shrug. I dunno. I merely tries to replaicate te test

$ php -a
Interactive mode enabled

<?
Echo "sodit";
?>

echo "sodit";
Sodit
^C
$

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#10189

On 07/22/2013 10:25 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/07/13 11:31, Norman Peelman wrote:
>> On 07/22/2013 03:47 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> In my setup that produces no output at all.
>>> Mind you php -a doesnt produce any output from
>>> php> echo "this";
>>>
>>> either..
>>>
>>> Nor even a command prompt
>>>
>>> It just sits there...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>   Well, then how are you 'running' your code? You show a command
>> prompt above. The interactive shell executes each line as you type it
>> in. I can't even imagine what your setup is without you telling.
>>
>>
> Shrug. I dunno. I merely tries to replaicate te test
>
> $ php -a
> Interactive mode enabled
>
> <?
> Echo "sodit";
> ?>
>
> echo "sodit";
> Sodit
> ^C
> $
>

   You are in 'Interactive Mode', not 'Interactive Shell'.  You just 
need to type (press enter after each line):

$ php -a
Interactive mode enabled

<?php
echo "?> something <?";
?>
press CTRL-D (or Z maybe)

---

   It's a compilation option --with-readline (or lack of) that causes it 
to revert to this mode. I don't feel like compiling PHP just to find 
out. Give it a go.

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#10180

In article <ksj1ah$cqr$3@dont-email.me>,
 Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> On 07/22/2013 03:47 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> >> Interactive shell
> >>
> >> php > $something="my text";
> >> php > $run="?> $something <?";
> >> php > echo $run;
> >> ?> my text <?

> > In my setup that produces no output at all.
> > Mind you php -a doesnt produce any output from
> > php> echo "this";
> >
> > either..
> >
> > Nor even a command prompt
> >
> > It just sits there...

>    Well, then how are you 'running' your code? You show a command prompt 
> above. The interactive shell executes each line as you type it in. I 
> can't even imagine what your setup is without you telling.

Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:

php -a

He then enters:

echo "this";

at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure out, 
was it.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#10182

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
> 
> php -a
> 
> He then enters:
> 
> echo "this";
> 
> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure out,
> was it.

Then it's something in his configuration that's different to my command 
line configuration.

-- 
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#10184

On 7/22/2013 3:14 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
>>
>> php -a
>>
>> He then enters:
>>
>> echo "this";
>>
>> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure out,
>> was it.
>
> Then it's something in his configuration that's different to my command
> line configuration.
>

Works the same for me as it did for Tim.

Maybe you hit ctrl-Z (or ctrl-D on linux)?


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#10185

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:00:00 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> On 7/22/2013 3:14 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>>
>>> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
>>>
>>> php -a
>>>
>>> He then enters:
>>>
>>> echo "this";
>>>
>>> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure
>>> out,
>>> was it.
>>
>> Then it's something in his configuration that's different to my command
>> line configuration.
>>
>>
> Works the same for me as it did for Tim.
> 
> Maybe you hit ctrl-Z (or ctrl-D on linux)?

Nope, I did the following as Tim posted, starting from a shell prompt:

php -a
echo "this";

And what appears on my screen is this:

$ php -a
Interactive shell

php > echo "this";
this
php > exit
$

So if TNPs system is hanging after he enters the 'echo "this";' then my 
bet is that it's something he did to his configuration.

-- 
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#10187

Denis McMahon wrote:

> So if TNPs system is hanging after he enters the 'echo "this";' then my 
> bet is that it's something he did to his configuration.

That's the difference between interactive *shell* and interactive *mode*
(see <http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.interactive.php>).
Giving a proper --with-readline option to the build process might not
always suffice (at least I was not able to compile PHP, so that it
offers the interactive shell, under Cygwin).

-- 
Christoph M. Becker

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#10188

On 7/22/2013 5:29 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:00:00 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/2013 3:14 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
>>>>
>>>> php -a
>>>>
>>>> He then enters:
>>>>
>>>> echo "this";
>>>>
>>>> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure
>>>> out,
>>>> was it.
>>>
>>> Then it's something in his configuration that's different to my command
>>> line configuration.
>>>
>>>
>> Works the same for me as it did for Tim.
>>
>> Maybe you hit ctrl-Z (or ctrl-D on linux)?
>
> Nope, I did the following as Tim posted, starting from a shell prompt:
>
> php -a
> echo "this";
>
> And what appears on my screen is this:
>
> $ php -a
> Interactive shell
>
> php > echo "this";
> this
> php > exit
> $
>
> So if TNPs system is hanging after he enters the 'echo "this";' then my
> bet is that it's something he did to his configuration.
>

What I get in both Windows and Linux is:

C:\>php -a
Interactive mode enabled

echo "this";

Then after doing ctrl-Z (ctrl-D in Linux)

echo "this";

I could check through the php.ini options to see what affects this, but 
considering the source of the problem, I really don't care.

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#10191

On 07/22/2013 07:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 7/22/2013 5:29 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:00:00 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/22/2013 3:14 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
>>>>>
>>>>> php -a
>>>>>
>>>>> He then enters:
>>>>>
>>>>> echo "this";
>>>>>
>>>>> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure
>>>>> out,
>>>>> was it.
>>>>
>>>> Then it's something in his configuration that's different to my command
>>>> line configuration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Works the same for me as it did for Tim.
>>>
>>> Maybe you hit ctrl-Z (or ctrl-D on linux)?
>>
>> Nope, I did the following as Tim posted, starting from a shell prompt:
>>
>> php -a
>> echo "this";
>>
>> And what appears on my screen is this:
>>
>> $ php -a
>> Interactive shell
>>
>> php > echo "this";
>> this
>> php > exit
>> $
>>
>> So if TNPs system is hanging after he enters the 'echo "this";' then my
>> bet is that it's something he did to his configuration.
>>
>
> What I get in both Windows and Linux is:
>
> C:\>php -a
> Interactive mode enabled
>
> echo "this";
>
> Then after doing ctrl-Z (ctrl-D in Linux)
>
> echo "this";
>
> I could check through the php.ini options to see what affects this, but
> considering the source of the problem, I really don't care.
>

   I do believe you need to use proper starting and ending tags. You're 
output indicates PHP has simply passed-thru the text you entered. But 
yes CTRL-D or Z maybe should be the proper way to 'run' the code in 
Interactive *Mode*



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#10192

On 7/22/2013 7:56 PM, Norman Peelman wrote:
> On 07/22/2013 07:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 7/22/2013 5:29 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:00:00 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/22/2013 3:14 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> php -a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He then enters:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> echo "this";
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure
>>>>>> out,
>>>>>> was it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it's something in his configuration that's different to my
>>>>> command
>>>>> line configuration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Works the same for me as it did for Tim.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you hit ctrl-Z (or ctrl-D on linux)?
>>>
>>> Nope, I did the following as Tim posted, starting from a shell prompt:
>>>
>>> php -a
>>> echo "this";
>>>
>>> And what appears on my screen is this:
>>>
>>> $ php -a
>>> Interactive shell
>>>
>>> php > echo "this";
>>> this
>>> php > exit
>>> $
>>>
>>> So if TNPs system is hanging after he enters the 'echo "this";' then my
>>> bet is that it's something he did to his configuration.
>>>
>>
>> What I get in both Windows and Linux is:
>>
>> C:\>php -a
>> Interactive mode enabled
>>
>> echo "this";
>>
>> Then after doing ctrl-Z (ctrl-D in Linux)
>>
>> echo "this";
>>
>> I could check through the php.ini options to see what affects this, but
>> considering the source of the problem, I really don't care.
>>
>
>    I do believe you need to use proper starting and ending tags. You're
> output indicates PHP has simply passed-thru the text you entered. But
> yes CTRL-D or Z maybe should be the proper way to 'run' the code in
> Interactive *Mode*
>
>
>

I agree with the tags - I've always used them when testing.  Here, I was 
entering the text exactly as Dennis did, and showing I did NOT get the 
results he did.


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#10197

On 22/07/13 22:29, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:00:00 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/2013 3:14 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
>>>>
>>>> php -a
>>>>
>>>> He then enters:
>>>>
>>>> echo "this";
>>>>
>>>> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure
>>>> out,
>>>> was it.
>>> Then it's something in his configuration that's different to my command
>>> line configuration.
>>>
>>>
>> Works the same for me as it did for Tim.
>>
>> Maybe you hit ctrl-Z (or ctrl-D on linux)?
> Nope, I did the following as Tim posted, starting from a shell prompt:
>
> php -a
> echo "this";
>
> And what appears on my screen is this:
>
> $ php -a
> Interactive shell
>
> php > echo "this";
> this
> php > exit
> $
>
> So if TNPs system is hanging after he enters the 'echo "this";' then my
> bet is that it's something he did to his configuration.
>
I have never configured PHP to use a shell at all.

It is a vanilla debian stable installation.

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#10190

On 07/22/2013 12:41 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <ksj1ah$cqr$3@dont-email.me>,
> Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On 07/22/2013 03:47 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> >> Interactive shell
>> >>
>> >> php > $something="my text";
>> >> php > $run="?> $something <?";
>> >> php > echo $run;
>> >> ?> my text <?
>
>> > In my setup that produces no output at all.
>> > Mind you php -a doesnt produce any output from
>> > php> echo "this";
>> >
>> > either..
>> >
>> > Nor even a command prompt
>> >
>> > It just sits there...
>
>>    Well, then how are you 'running' your code? You show a command
>> prompt above. The interactive shell executes each line as you type it
>> in. I can't even imagine what your setup is without you telling.
>
> Then get a clue. TNP uses PHP at the command line with:
>
> php -a
>
> He then enters:
>
> echo "this";
>
> at the prompt, and it hangs. There. That wasn't too hard to figure out,
> was it.
>

  It's not hanging, but waiting for proper EOF. But also probably needs 
proper starting and ending tags as well.


<?php
echo "?> something <?";
?>
CTRL-D (or Z maybe)


-- 
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Registered Linux user #461062
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#10194

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:52:14 -0400, Norman Peelman wrote:

> It's not hanging, but waiting for proper EOF. But also probably needs
> proper starting and ending tags as well.

> <?php echo "?> something <?";
> ?>
> CTRL-D (or Z maybe)

Not in my setup:

Starting at a command shell, the only things I type are the following 3 
lines:

php -a
echo "this";
exit

What appears on my console are the following 7 lines:

$ php -a
Interactive shell

php > echo "this";
this
php > exit
$ 

-- 
Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com

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#10195

On 07/23/2013 05:40 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:52:14 -0400, Norman Peelman wrote:
>
>> It's not hanging, but waiting for proper EOF. But also probably needs
>> proper starting and ending tags as well.
>
>> <?php echo "?> something <?";
>> ?>
>> CTRL-D (or Z maybe)
>
> Not in my setup:
>
> Starting at a command shell, the only things I type are the following 3
> lines:
>
> php -a
> echo "this";
> exit
>
> What appears on my console are the following 7 lines:
>
> $ php -a
> Interactive shell
>
> php > echo "this";
> this
> php > exit
> $
>

Dennis,

   You and I have the 'Interactive *SHELL*' and that is the way it is 
supposed to work. 'Interactive *MODE* is something different. You can't 
pick which one you use at the terminal.

http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.interactive.php


"Interactive *MODE* is essentially like running php with stdin as the 
file input. You just type code, and when you're done (Ctrl-D), php 
executes whatever you typed as if it were a normal PHP (PHTML) file - 
hence you start in interactive *mode* with '<?php' in order to execute 
code."

http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.interactive.php#108006

https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=60683
It's not a bug, read the history down to the bottom.


-- 
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Registered Linux user #461062
-Have you been to www.php.net yet?-

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#10196

In article <kslj24$su3$1@dont-email.me>,
 Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:52:14 -0400, Norman Peelman wrote:
> 
> > It's not hanging, but waiting for proper EOF. But also probably needs
> > proper starting and ending tags as well.
> 
> > <?php echo "?> something <?";
> > ?>
> > CTRL-D (or Z maybe)
> 
> Not in my setup:
> 
> Starting at a command shell, the only things I type are the following 3 
> lines:
> 
> php -a
> echo "this";
> exit
> 
> What appears on my console are the following 7 lines:
> 
> $ php -a
> Interactive shell
> 
> php > echo "this";
> this
> php > exit
> $

Exactly what I observe (OS X).

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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