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Best Framework for big multilanguage site

Started byGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
First post2013-04-06 18:42 +0200
Last post2013-04-09 11:08 +0200
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  Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> - 2013-04-06 18:42 +0200
    Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2013-04-06 20:16 +0200
    Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-06 14:29 -0400
      Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> - 2013-04-07 01:34 +0200
        Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-04-07 01:41 +0200
        Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-06 20:12 -0400
          Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> - 2013-04-07 17:14 +0200
            Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-04-07 10:39 -0500
              Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> - 2013-04-07 18:31 +0200
            Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-04-08 00:00 +0000
              Re: Best Framework for big multilanguage  site Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> - 2013-04-09 11:08 +0200

#8961 — Best Framework for big multilanguage site

FromGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
Date2013-04-06 18:42 +0200
SubjectBest Framework for big multilanguage site
Message-ID<kjpja1$rf$2@speranza.aioe.org>
Hi,
Which framework you advise me to develop a big multilanguage site?

I was thinking about:

- symphony
- yii
- code igniter

What you suggest me (any other framework is appreciated)?

Thank you

-- 
Giacomo

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#8962

From"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Date2013-04-06 20:16 +0200
Message-ID<asb735Fld5qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#8961
On 06/04/13 18:42, Giacomo M wrote:
> Hi,
> Which framework you advise me to develop a big multilanguage site?
>
> I was thinking about:
>
> - symphony
> - yii
> - code igniter
>
> What you suggest me (any other framework is appreciated)?

I would suggest symphony2, better on scaling over multiple web servers 
(a web cluster).

-- 

  //Aho

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#8964

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2013-04-06 14:29 -0400
Message-ID<kjppea$ukc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8961
On 4/6/2013 12:42 PM, Giacomo M wrote:
> Hi,
> Which framework you advise me to develop a big multilanguage site?
>
> I was thinking about:
>
> - symphony
> - yii
> - code igniter
>
> What you suggest me (any other framework is appreciated)?
>
> Thank you
>

Again, without more information, any response is just a guess.

You really need to determine detailed needs and conditions under which 
the server will be run.  Then select the appropriate framework for your 
needs.

-- 
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

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#8969

FromGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
Date2013-04-07 01:34 +0200
Message-ID<kjqbeq$6ch$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#8964
Il 06/04/2013 20:29, Jerry Stuckle ha scritto:
> On 4/6/2013 12:42 PM, Giacomo M wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Which framework you advise me to develop a big multilanguage site?
>>
>> I was thinking about:
>>
>> - symphony
>> - yii
>> - code igniter
>>
>> What you suggest me (any other framework is appreciated)?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>
> Again, without more information, any response is just a guess.

I don't know what info I need to say.

-- 
Giacomo

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#8970

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2013-04-07 01:41 +0200
Message-ID<1852057.4I54eDCTL5@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#8969
Giacomo M wrote:

> Il 06/04/2013 20:29, Jerry Stuckle ha scritto:
>> On 4/6/2013 12:42 PM, Giacomo M wrote:
>>> Which framework you advise me to develop a big multilanguage site?
>>>
>>> I was thinking about:
>>>
>>> - symphony
>>> - yii
>>> - code igniter
>>>
>>> What you suggest me (any other framework is appreciated)?
>>
>> Again, without more information, any response is just a guess.
> 
> I don't know what info I need to say.

You could start by defining “big multilanguage site”.

And if you really do not know your requirements better than that, you
probably have not thought about this enough.

<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>


PointedEars
-- 
Danny Goodman's books are out of date and teach practices that are
positively harmful for cross-browser scripting.
  -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <cife6q$253$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> (2004)

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#8971

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2013-04-06 20:12 -0400
Message-ID<kjqdgt$1on$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8969
On 4/6/2013 7:34 PM, Giacomo M wrote:
> Il 06/04/2013 20:29, Jerry Stuckle ha scritto:
>> On 4/6/2013 12:42 PM, Giacomo M wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Which framework you advise me to develop a big multilanguage site?
>>>
>>> I was thinking about:
>>>
>>> - symphony
>>> - yii
>>> - code igniter
>>>
>>> What you suggest me (any other framework is appreciated)?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>
>> Again, without more information, any response is just a guess.
>
> I don't know what info I need to say.
>

Like Thomas said - if you don't know more than that, you haven't defined 
your requirements sufficiently.

A "big multilanguage site" is like telling an architect you want
"a house".  You need to define MUCH better requirements.

And if you don't know how to do that, I suggest you hire a consultant. 
Usenet newsgroups are not a practical way to do that (or get free 
consulting).

-- 
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

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#8993

FromGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
Date2013-04-07 17:14 +0200
Message-ID<kjs2fp$dfr$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#8971
Il 07/04/2013 02:12, Jerry Stuckle ha scritto:
> Like Thomas said - if you don't know more than that, you haven't defined
> your requirements sufficiently.
>
> A "big multilanguage site" is like telling an architect you want
> "a house".  You need to define MUCH better requirements.
>
> And if you don't know how to do that, I suggest you hire a consultant.
> Usenet newsgroups are not a practical way to do that (or get free
> consulting).

I really don't know what you need to know.

The website will be on Windows server, will have something like 1000 
access per day, and will cover 3 or 4 languages.
It will have 500 users than will have the possibility to write own 
announcements.

-- 
Giacomo

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#8997

From"Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com>
Date2013-04-07 10:39 -0500
Message-ID<slrnkm34p4.m9f.hellsop@nibelheim.ninehells.com>
In reply to#8993
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:14:04 +0200, Giacomo M wrote:
> Il 07/04/2013 02:12, Jerry Stuckle ha scritto:
>> Like Thomas said - if you don't know more than that, you haven't defined
>> your requirements sufficiently.
>>
>> A "big multilanguage site" is like telling an architect you want
>> "a house".  You need to define MUCH better requirements.
>>
>> And if you don't know how to do that, I suggest you hire a consultant.
>> Usenet newsgroups are not a practical way to do that (or get free
>> consulting).
>
> I really don't know what you need to know.
>
> The website will be on Windows server, will have something like 1000 
> access per day, and will cover 3 or 4 languages.
> It will have 500 users than will have the possibility to write own 
> announcements.

Err... that sounds like a *small* site, to me, that ANY framework should
be able to handle. It's language themselves are necessarily beyond the
scope of anything, so long as you're willing to write content in UTF-8
so the engines don't need to care what it is.

-- 
"The bullets are just his way of saying 'Keep it down, I've got a
hangover.'"
Kiki to Dr. Schlock, as seen in 
http://pics.sluggy.com/comics/000108a.gif

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#8998

FromGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
Date2013-04-07 18:31 +0200
Message-ID<kjs70m$qud$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#8997
Il 07/04/2013 17:39, Peter H. Coffin ha scritto:
> Err... that sounds like a *small* site, to me, that ANY framework should
> be able to handle. It's language themselves are necessarily beyond the
> scope of anything, so long as you're willing to write content in UTF-8
> so the engines don't need to care what it is.

It will grow up a lot.

-- 
Giacomo

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#9003

FromDenis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com>
Date2013-04-08 00:00 +0000
Message-ID<kjt1ac$cde$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8993
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:14:04 +0200, Giacomo M wrote:

> Il 07/04/2013 02:12, Jerry Stuckle ha scritto:
>> Like Thomas said - if you don't know more than that, you haven't
>> defined your requirements sufficiently.
>>
>> A "big multilanguage site" is like telling an architect you want "a
>> house".  You need to define MUCH better requirements.
>>
>> And if you don't know how to do that, I suggest you hire a consultant.
>> Usenet newsgroups are not a practical way to do that (or get free
>> consulting).
> 
> I really don't know what you need to know.
> 
> The website will be on Windows server, will have something like 1000
> access per day, and will cover 3 or 4 languages.
> It will have 500 users than will have the possibility to write own
> announcements.

That's not big in terms of users and accesses, < 1 page access per 
minute, 2 page accesses per day per user.

How much data storage do you need for announcements. How often will 
announcements change?

-- 
Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com

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#9016

FromGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
Date2013-04-09 11:08 +0200
Message-ID<kk0lqr$s2k$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#9003
Il 08/04/2013 02:00, Denis McMahon ha scritto:
> That's not big in terms of users and accesses, < 1 page access per
> minute, 2 page accesses per day per user.

The website it supposes will grow up a lot.

> How much data storage do you need for announcements. How often will
> announcements change?

Not that much. I guess 10-20 announcements per day.

-- 
Giacomo

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