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filtering profanity and obscene language - a list?

Started byMichael Joel <no@please.com>
First post2011-12-28 13:46 -0500
Last post2011-12-29 02:47 +0100
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  filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Michael Joel <no@please.com> - 2011-12-28 13:46 -0500
    Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-28 18:55 +0000
      Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmacdotcom@example.com> - 2011-12-28 14:05 -0500
        Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-28 19:23 +0000
      Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Michael Joel <no@please.com> - 2011-12-28 14:27 -0500
        Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-28 19:42 +0000
        Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2011-12-29 06:05 +0000
          Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> - 2011-12-29 18:34 +0100
    Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? bill <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2011-12-28 16:37 -0500
      Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? "Greg N." <yodel_dodel@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-29 02:47 +0100

#4161 — filtering profanity and obscene language - a list?

FromMichael Joel <no@please.com>
Date2011-12-28 13:46 -0500
Subjectfiltering profanity and obscene language - a list?
Message-ID<6qomf7p4svdj66f6ooq7vn56rg3081ef16@4ax.com>
Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I
need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list
already made to check against.

Thanks
Mike

P.S. Please be serious :)

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#4162

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2011-12-28 18:55 +0000
Message-ID<jdfomg$qoj$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4161
Michael Joel wrote:
> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I
> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list
> already made to check against.
> 
> Thanks
> Mike
> 
> P.S. Please be serious :)

Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to 
have a 'report' button and a moderator.

Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters


The law is an ass.
I tossed the  pancake
Have you been to Scunthorpe?
Labrador bitch for sale.
It's only a pin prick.
The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine.
I really like shitake mushrooms.

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#4163

FromDoug Miller <doug_at_milmacdotcom@example.com>
Date2011-12-28 14:05 -0500
Message-ID<jdfpb5$anf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4162
On 12/28/2011 1:55 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Michael Joel wrote:
>> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I
>> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list
>> already made to check against.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>>
>> P.S. Please be serious :)
>
> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to
> have a 'report' button and a moderator.
>
> Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters
>
>
> The law is an ass.
> I tossed the pancake
> Have you been to Scunthorpe?
> Labrador bitch for sale.
> It's only a pin prick.
> The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine.
> I really like shitake mushrooms.

Not to mention things which might *not* fall foul of a preprogrammed 
filter, such as $h!t, @$$ho1e, etc. Or b a d w o r d, b.a.d.w.o.r.d, 
b_a_d_w_o_r_d, etc.

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#4164

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2011-12-28 19:23 +0000
Message-ID<jdfqbv$tvu$3@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4163
Doug Miller wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 1:55 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Michael Joel wrote:
>>> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I
>>> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list
>>> already made to check against.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> P.S. Please be serious :)
>>
>> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to
>> have a 'report' button and a moderator.
>>
>> Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters
>>
>>
>> The law is an ass.
>> I tossed the pancake
>> Have you been to Scunthorpe?
>> Labrador bitch for sale.
>> It's only a pin prick.
>> The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine.
>> I really like shitake mushrooms.
> 
> Not to mention things which might *not* fall foul of a preprogrammed 
> filter, such as $h!t, @$$ho1e, etc. Or b a d w o r d, b.a.d.w.o.r.d, 
> b_a_d_w_o_r_d, etc.

You are an anagram of that well known Danish king - Cnut.

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#4165

FromMichael Joel <no@please.com>
Date2011-12-28 14:27 -0500
Message-ID<0crmf7tlf49n6m8v1dkvkp1b9dp6me7p9g@4ax.com>
In reply to#4162
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:55:11 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Michael Joel wrote:
>> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I
>> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list
>> already made to check against.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>> 
>> P.S. Please be serious :)
>
>Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to 
>have a 'report' button and a moderator.
>
>Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters
>
>
>The law is an ass.
>I tossed the  pancake
>Have you been to Scunthorpe?
>Labrador bitch for sale.
>It's only a pin prick.
>The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine.
>I really like shitake mushrooms.


This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort
to sheild the users.

Mike

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#4166

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2011-12-28 19:42 +0000
Message-ID<jdfrfh$vtv$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4165
Michael Joel wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:55:11 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Joel wrote:
>>> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I
>>> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list
>>> already made to check against.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> P.S. Please be serious :)
>> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to 
>> have a 'report' button and a moderator.
>>
>> Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters
>>
>>
>> The law is an ass.
>> I tossed the  pancake
>> Have you been to Scunthorpe?
>> Labrador bitch for sale.
>> It's only a pin prick.
>> The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine.
>> I really like shitake mushrooms.
> 
> 
> This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort
> to sheild the users.
> 
indeed. But my point is that actually, its worse than useless.

> Mike

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#4174

FromEli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Date2011-12-29 06:05 +0000
Message-ID<eli$1112290052@qz.little-neck.ny.us>
In reply to#4165
In comp.lang.php, Michael Joel  <no@please.com> wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to 
>> have a 'report' button and a moderator.
> This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort
> to sheild the users.

Who are the users you are sheilding? Who is using the form? People
all over the world have names and addresses that are real but sound
offensive. Have you considered Dick Van Dyke? TNP brought up Scunthorpe,
but there's that famous town of Intercourse in Pennsylvania and many
places. Unless you are (1) dealing with the mentally incompetant,
(2) children (who often have (1) for parents), or a few very other
special cases, you should probably just forgetaboutit. You will fail
to filter something or will filter something wrong. That guy in Fort
Gay got a lot of news attention. Do you want to be responsible for
the next uproar?

Elijah
------
thinks it childish when people won't use, e.g., "fuck" even in direct quotes

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#4176

Fromhoughi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid>
Date2011-12-29 18:34 +0100
Message-ID<slrnjfp95p.5ib.houghi@penne.houghi>
In reply to#4174
Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In comp.lang.php, Michael Joel  <no@please.com> wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to 
>>> have a 'report' button and a moderator.
>> This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort
>> to sheild the users.
>
> Who are the users you are sheilding? Who is using the form?
<snip>

I agree. It is not the language that is abusive, it is the users that
are either abusive or perceive it as abusive. Context is also a major
thing. It also depends on context.

Filtering out the users who are (perceived as) abusive will be easier
then filtering out the language.

houghi
-- 
Remind me to write an article on the compulsive reading of news. The
theme will be that most neuroses can be traced to the unhealthy habit
of wallowing in the troubles of five billion strangers. -- Heinlein

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#4167

Frombill <nobody@spamcop.net>
Date2011-12-28 16:37 -0500
Message-ID<PZCdnXMJQ--0EWbTnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@cablespeedmi.com>
In reply to#4161
On 12/28/2011 1:46 PM, Michael Joel wrote:
> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I
> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list
> already made to check against.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> P.S. Please be serious :)

How many languages do you need to check ?

bill

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#4173

From"Greg N." <yodel_dodel@yahoo.com>
Date2011-12-29 02:47 +0100
Message-ID<jdggre$rkn$1@solani.org>
In reply to#4167
On 28.12.2011 22:37, bill wrote:

> How many languages do you need to check ?

Good point.  I once wrote some German text on a system equipped with an 
English foul language filter.

I'm still convinced the responsible programmer, that poor old sod, was 
the biggest idiot ever.

-- 
Gregor

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