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is dis da place?

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First post2011-05-19 06:38 -0600
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  is dis da place? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-05-19 06:38 -0600
    Re: is dis da place? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-05-23 04:28 -0600
      Re: is dis da place? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-23 07:14 -0400
        Re: is dis da place? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-05-23 06:17 -0600
          Re: is dis da place? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-23 09:54 -0400
            Re: is dis da place? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-05-23 11:47 -0600
              Re: is dis da place? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-23 14:09 -0400
          Re: is dis da place? Erwin Moller <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> - 2011-05-23 21:58 +0200
            Re: is dis da place? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-05-24 05:57 -0600
              Re: is dis da place? Erwin Moller <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> - 2011-05-24 15:09 +0200
                Re: is dis da place? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-05-25 05:55 -0600

#1664 — is dis da place?

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2011-05-19 06:38 -0600
Subjectis dis da place?
Message-ID<jm3at6h0ofo99s740fvjb73jj36gm898a0@4ax.com>
So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
to post.

What's the deal, the real deal?

I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.

Thanks.

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#1798

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2011-05-23 04:28 -0600
Message-ID<ckdkt6l8r5qdv7ip775rsen38o1v1s8mo0@4ax.com>
In reply to#1664
crankypuss <no@email.thanks> wrote:

>So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>to post.
>
>What's the deal, the real deal?
>
>I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>
>Thanks.

Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.

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#1800

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2011-05-23 07:14 -0400
Message-ID<irdfhs$v84$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1798
On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>  wrote:
>
>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>> to post.
>>
>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>
>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>

No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately 
than in general.

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#1801

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2011-05-23 06:17 -0600
Message-ID<o0kkt61p62rog9bc7nbtnrqn7h585phr6k@4ax.com>
In reply to#1800
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

>On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>  wrote:
>>
>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>> to post.
>>>
>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>
>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>
>
>No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately 
>than in general.

Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
than the other?

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#1802

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2011-05-23 09:54 -0400
Message-ID<irdoue$ri0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1801
On 5/23/2011 8:17 AM, crankypuss wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>>> to post.
>>>>
>>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>>
>>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>>
>>
>> No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately
>> than in general.
>
> Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
> than the other?
>

Once you filter out the trolls, there is some good technical content here.

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#1808

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2011-05-23 11:47 -0600
Message-ID<1c7lt6t1db5id7adoahdpqkgqvrc26u1v5@4ax.com>
In reply to#1802
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

>On 5/23/2011 8:17 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>>>> to post.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>>>
>>>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>>>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately
>>> than in general.
>>
>> Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
>> than the other?
>>
>
>Once you filter out the trolls, there is some good technical content here.

Since your post was crossposted to two groups, shall I assume that you
meant "in either one"?

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#1809

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2011-05-23 14:09 -0400
Message-ID<ire7t6$5ve$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1808
On 5/23/2011 1:47 PM, crankypuss wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2011 8:17 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>>>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>>>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>>>>> to post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>>>>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately
>>>> than in general.
>>>
>>> Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
>>> than the other?
>>>
>>
>> Once you filter out the trolls, there is some good technical content here.
>
> Since your post was crossposted to two groups, shall I assume that you
> meant "in either one"?
>

Yea, although there aren't many trolls in a.c.l.p.  Not a lot of traffic 
there at all, in fact.

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#1814

FromErwin Moller <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com>
Date2011-05-23 21:58 +0200
Message-ID<4ddabc7a$0$49041$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#1801
On 5/23/2011 2:17 PM, crankypuss wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>>> to post.
>>>>
>>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>>
>>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>>
>>
>> No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately
>> than in general.
>
> Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
> than the other?
>

Stick to comp.lang.php.
Most traffic in there (here). ;-)
But I have the impression many people read both.

Regards,
Erwin Moller


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#1825

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2011-05-24 05:57 -0600
Message-ID<d77nt6h65m3cdb802pes8vkfu6o6886e9n@4ax.com>
In reply to#1814
Erwin Moller
<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote:

>On 5/23/2011 2:17 PM, crankypuss wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>>>> to post.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>>>
>>>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>>>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately
>>> than in general.
>>
>> Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
>> than the other?
>>
>
>Stick to comp.lang.php.
>Most traffic in there (here). ;-)
>But I have the impression many people read both.

Yes, I agree that more traffic is in comp.lang.php, but whether or not
the extra traffic is a combination of spam and arguments between a few
familiar combatants is what I'm wondering.

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#1827

FromErwin Moller <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com>
Date2011-05-24 15:09 +0200
Message-ID<4ddbae07$0$49180$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#1825
On 5/24/2011 1:57 PM, crankypuss wrote:
> Erwin Moller
> <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com>  wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2011 2:17 PM, crankypuss wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>>>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>>>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>>>>> to post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>>>>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately
>>>> than in general.
>>>
>>> Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
>>> than the other?
>>>
>>
>> Stick to comp.lang.php.
>> Most traffic in there (here). ;-)
>> But I have the impression many people read both.
>
> Yes, I agree that more traffic is in comp.lang.php, but whether or not
> the extra traffic is a combination of spam and arguments between a few
> familiar combatants is what I'm wondering.
>

Well, try us. :-)
Do you have a PHP question/problem?

Erwin Moller

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#1840

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2011-05-25 05:55 -0600
Message-ID<2brpt6t2gvivb5bg913ptpccrhgoe4fbld@4ax.com>
In reply to#1827
Erwin Moller
<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote:

>On 5/24/2011 1:57 PM, crankypuss wrote:
>> Erwin Moller
>> <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2011 2:17 PM, crankypuss wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/23/2011 6:28 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>>>>> crankypuss<no@email.thanks>    wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, over in alt.comp.lang.php, I were told by a Dr sumbuddy that
>>>>>>> alt.comp.lang.php is on the outs and comp.lang.php is the kewl place
>>>>>>> to post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the deal, the real deal?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I figured to get a bit of data by seeing who replies where.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, so, the way it appears to me is that there are more bullshit
>>>>>> arguments and less actual technical discussion in comp.lang.php.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, just a few trolls running around.  They've been more active lately
>>>>> than in general.
>>>>
>>>> Huh.  What about technical content, do you think either one is better
>>>> than the other?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Stick to comp.lang.php.
>>> Most traffic in there (here). ;-)
>>> But I have the impression many people read both.
>>
>> Yes, I agree that more traffic is in comp.lang.php, but whether or not
>> the extra traffic is a combination of spam and arguments between a few
>> familiar combatants is what I'm wondering.
>>
>
>Well, try us. :-)
>Do you have a PHP question/problem?
>
>Erwin Moller

I used up most of the easy questions years back, like "why are
function names inconsistent, because programmers should be confused,
or because the developers were idiots?"  These days I just use
is_array() and isset() from habit and try not to need any more help
than is necessary.

On the other hand, is there a good interactive debugger available for
use in PHP server development?

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