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willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP

Started byrichard <noreply@example.com>
First post2014-03-12 22:52 -0400
Last post2014-03-22 12:03 +0000
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  willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-12 22:52 -0400
    Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-12 23:12 -0400
      Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-12 23:38 -0400
        Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:26 +0000
    Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:25 +0000
    Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-13 17:16 +0000
      Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-13 13:58 -0400
        Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-13 18:08 +0000
        Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-13 18:12 +0000
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:30 -0400
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-13 14:48 -0400
            Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-13 19:17 +0000
            Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-03-14 10:16 -0700
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-14 07:09 +0000
      OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2014-03-14 18:42 +0100
        Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-14 18:10 +0000
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-03-23 17:35 +0100
        Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-14 14:46 -0400
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-03-14 12:43 -0700
            Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-14 22:13 +0000
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2014-03-14 21:34 +0100
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-14 22:12 +0000
            Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-14 21:13 -0400
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2014-03-14 22:53 -0400
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-03-20 10:23 +0100
        Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-14 15:18 -0400
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 01:49 +0000
            Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-14 21:58 -0400
        Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 07:04 +0000
          Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who   knows both JS and PHP Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-03-20 10:26 +0100
    Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> - 2014-03-16 09:34 +0000
      Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-16 09:47 -0400
      Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-16 14:43 +0000
        Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP richard <noreply@example.com> - 2014-03-16 16:19 -0400
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2014-03-16 21:19 +0000
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gabe <usenet@moojuice.net> - 2014-03-16 21:24 +0000
            Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2014-03-20 12:50 +0100
              Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gabe <usenet@moojuice.net> - 2014-03-20 19:40 +0000
                Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2014-03-20 21:57 +0100
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-16 17:59 -0400
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-17 09:30 +0000
          Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-03-20 12:11 +0100
    Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jenna <xoajen@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 13:52 -0700
      Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-03-20 16:58 -0400
        Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Jenna <xoajen@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 14:09 -0700
        Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2014-03-23 11:48 -0500
      Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-20 21:37 +0000
      Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-20 22:37 +0000
    Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2014-03-22 12:03 +0000

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#13190

FromDerek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net>
Date2014-03-17 09:30 +0000
Message-ID<bontl8FbrgvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#13165
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 21:24:19 +0000, Gabe wrote:

<snip dick-waving>

> I also don't feel the need nor inclination to discuss my curriculum
> vitae on a public newgroup.

Evidently you do.

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#13243

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2014-03-20 12:11 +0100
Message-ID<532ACCDA.3090902@arnowelzel.de>
In reply to#13165
Am 16.03.2014 21:19, schrieb richard:

> On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote:
> 
>> Gabriel <usenet@moojuice.net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397-
>> usenet@moojuicenet:
>>
>>> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:
>>>
>>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>>>> more script to add to it.
>>>>
>>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>>>> What I want a script for is this:
>>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>>>> and report it.
>>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>>>
>>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>>
>>> Hi Richard
>>>
>>> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your 
>>> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it.
>>>
>>> Let me know if I can help.
>>
>> Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on 
>> www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months.
> 
> Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play
> God, Judge, jury and executioner?
> A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would
> capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information.
> Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job.
> Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around
> simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database.

No - you got you "ass kicked around", because you tell others they are
ignorant even after you clearly demonstrated that you are not able to
understand what "software development" means at all. "IMO, mysql is kind
of a subset of php."... oh my...

It seems you are just mentally not able to understand the principles of
software development and databases (and many other topics).

That's ok, not everybody is a good software developer, web designer etc.
- but then don't try to tell others why their explanations are ignorant,
false or whatever.

> I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you
> highly normalised asswipes to comprehend.
> What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid,
> hits, title,artist?
> Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"?
> You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an
> example.

READ HERE:

<http://www.studytonight.com/dbms/database-normalization.php>
<http://databases.about.com/od/specificproducts/a/normalization.htm>

If you don't understand that, it's YOUR problem, not theirs.

BTW: This has also been discussed several times.

> As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds
> like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want
> done.

Based on your nearly non-existing knowledge about technical topics
concerning PHP and databases your are simply not able to judge the
expertise.


-- 
Arno Welzel
http://arnowelzel.de
http://de-rec-fahrrad.de

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#13253

FromJenna <xoajen@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-20 13:52 -0700
Message-ID<58782d05-26cf-4690-b2e1-2817a32e5715@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#13116
I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all about. Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board relegated to richard-bashing? 

And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think I smell some masochism, woof.

Thanks for the shock and laughs --
Jenna

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#13255

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2014-03-20 16:58 -0400
Message-ID<lgfkq6$4ka$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13253
On 3/20/2014 4:52 PM, Jenna wrote:
> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all about. Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board relegated to richard-bashing?
>
> And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think I smell some masochism, woof.
>
> Thanks for the shock and laughs --
> Jenna
>

There's some PHP discussion that goes on here.  Not as much as there 
used to be - I think most people have gone to web forums.

And if you look back at some of richard's posts, you'll understand.

-- 
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

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#13256

FromJenna <xoajen@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-20 14:09 -0700
Message-ID<a39f6298-f8df-4006-b4a6-fdb4635a29ca@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#13255
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> There's some PHP discussion that goes on here.  Not as much as there 
> 
> used to be - I think most people have gone to web forums.
> 
> 
> 
> And if you look back at some of richard's posts, you'll understand.
>
> Jerry Stuckle


Well, you guys seem to be a good group of people, knowledgeable and willing to help. I would bet there's years-worth of the richard issue. It's unfortunate. 

If I ever need help, I'll come here an ask a valid question for you all to chew over. :)

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#13269

From"Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com>
Date2014-03-23 11:48 -0500
Message-ID<slrnliu428.74r.hellsop@nibelheim.ninehells.com>
In reply to#13255
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:58:48 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> On 3/20/2014 4:52 PM, Jenna wrote:
>
>> And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think
>> I smell some masochism, woof.
>>
>> Thanks for the shock and laughs -- Jenna
>
>
> There's some PHP discussion that goes on here. Not as much as there
> used to be - I think most people have gone to web forums.

Or everybody else learned enough to at least answer their own questions
most of the time... (:

-- 
17. When I employ people as advisors, I will occasionally listen to 
   their advice.
        --Peter Anspach's list of things to do as an Evil Overlord

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#13257

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2014-03-20 21:37 +0000
Message-ID<lgfn28$v5b$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#13253
On 20/03/14 20:52, Jenna wrote:
> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all
> about. Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or
> from richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead
> board relegated to richard-bashing?

I think its is handy when discussing obscure elements of PHP, but 
realistically most people achieve a level of comfort with it fairly quickly.

richard is the exception that proves the rule.

In 5 years he hasn't actually written a working program

-- 
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

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#13258

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-03-20 22:37 +0000
Message-ID<200320142237451283%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#13253
In article <58782d05-26cf-4690-b2e1-2817a32e5715@googlegroups.com>,
Jenna <xoajen@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all about.
> Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from richard. Is
> there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board relegated to
> richard-bashing?

Hah, woof yourself. This could be a useful ng but it suffers from what
every ng suffers from: lack of ultimate control. From time to time we
also suffer from the ministrations of PointyHead, which I'm sure puts
off a lots of less experienced people who may have genuine questions.
However he mostly bothers the javascript ng, where he spends his time
teaching us how to spell javascript and counting the angels on
pinheads.

Me, I've subscribed to the PHP Users mailing list, which is much more
sedate and useful, as things stand.

> And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think I smell
> some masochism, woof.

He is a boor. He can't code and keeps coming back with the same
tommy-rot. Something doesn't work and he never spends any time asking
himself "What simple errors do I keep making? Have I made one of those
this time?" and so on. And he never thanks anyone for the actual help
they give.

> 
> Thanks for the shock and laughs --
> Jenna

-- 
"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a
friend.... if you have one." - GB Shaw to Churchill "Cannot possibly
attend first night, will attend second...  if there is one." - Winston
Churchill, in response.

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#13264

FromDerek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net>
Date2014-03-22 12:03 +0000
Message-ID<bp5cgsF7i1uU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#13116
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 13:52:52 -0700, Jenna wrote:

> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all
> about.
> Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from
> richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board
> relegated to richard-bashing?

Hi Jenna and welcome,

When I first cut my teeth in PHP and MySQL a couple of years agoI got a 
lot of very good advice here and in c.d.m., often from the same people in 
the two groups IYSWIM.

My experience is that if you

1. Try to do it yourself and explain what you are trying to achieve and 
what errors you get and

2. Take the advice and learn from it

then people in this group and c.d.m. are very helpful.

Unfortunately Richard is pretty good (mostly) at 1. and very poor (always) 
at 2.

'Mr. Stuckle' was one of the most courteous and helpful to this learner 
and I publicly thank him yet again.

Derek.

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