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  why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 01:08 -0700
    Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? "Andy" <andy@NOSPAMmanyplay.com> - 2013-05-24 09:50 +0100
      Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 09:25 -0400
    Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 01:53 -0700
      Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 01:57 -0700
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 22:25 +0000
    Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 02:06 -0700
      Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 06:20 -0700
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-05-24 14:40 +0100
          Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 09:55 -0400
            Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-05-24 16:47 +0100
              Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 12:07 -0400
                Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-05-24 18:04 +0100
                  Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 13:30 -0400
              Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-24 22:32 +0200
          Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 07:19 -0700
            Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-05-24 15:02 +0000
              Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 22:37 +0000
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-24 15:00 +0100
          Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 07:20 -0700
            Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 10:35 -0400
            Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-24 16:59 +0100
          Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 10:34 -0400
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-05-24 10:51 -0500
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-05-26 07:02 -0700
      Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2013-05-24 20:26 +0200
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 15:34 -0400
    Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 09:35 -0400
      Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 07:14 -0700
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 10:38 -0400
          Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 07:53 -0700
            Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 11:06 -0400
            Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-05-24 15:18 +0000
              Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-24 12:04 -0400
              Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? gordonb.aykca@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2013-05-24 22:59 -0500
                Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-25 09:20 +0200
                Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-05-25 09:22 -0400
            Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 22:49 +0000
              Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-05-24 17:06 -0700
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-05-24 15:12 +0000
        Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-05-26 07:13 -0700
    Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? yousafali3949@gmail.com - 2017-07-16 07:14 -0700
      Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-07-16 09:55 -0500
    Re: why php echo does not show up in HTML? V <vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvva@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-11 22:22 -0700

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#9589

On 5/24/2013 10:20 AM, steve nospam wrote:
> On May 24, 9:00 am, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> |echo (file_get_contents(  "filename.htm"  ));|
>>
>> ?
>>
>
> huh? what is this?
>

The usual tripe TNP espouses.  He's not very smart and his comprehension 
is lacking.

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#9601

On 24/05/13 15:20, steve nospam wrote:
> On May 24, 9:00 am, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> |echo (file_get_contents(  "filename.htm"  ));|
>>
>> ?
>>
> huh? what is this?
Its an Answer

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#9588

On 5/24/2013 10:00 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 24/05/13 14:20, steve nospam wrote:
>>> I found the problem.
>>>
>>> I needed to modify the .htaccess file. added this line
>>>
>>> AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm
>>>
>>> Now it works. php works from inside htm file. No need to change file
>>> extension.
>> guys, the above fix did not work on the server. Must be something with
>> the php used there. It worked on my local apache server.  So, I still
>> looking for a solution.  My question is this:
>>
>> If I change my index.htm to index.php, is there a way to make an alias
>> or something so that not all my links are broken? so that a link to
>> index.htm will use index.php?
>>
>> Ok, let me go back one step: This is all crazy, because all what I
>> wanted to do is simple: use php to include some common html code into
>> all my html web pages.  So how is one supposed to do this if one can't
>> use php inside html?
>
> |echo (file_get_contents(  "filename.htm"  ));|
>
> ?

ROFLMAO!  Typical of your level of comprehension, TNP.

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#9600

On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:20:03 -0700 (PDT), steve nospam wrote:
>
>>
>> I found the problem.
>>
>> I needed to modify the .htaccess file. added this line
>>
>> AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm
>>
>> Now it works. php works from inside htm file. No need to change file
>> extension.
>
> guys, the above fix did not work on the server. Must be something with
> the php used there. It worked on my local apache server.  

The server configuration may be forbidding FileInfo overrides from
.htaccess. In newer Apache versions, allowing this by default is no
longer the case, either.

> So, I still
> looking for a solution.  My question is this:
>
> If I change my index.htm to index.php, is there a way to make an alias
> or something so that not all my links are broken? so that a link to
> index.htm will use index.php?

No. What handler the Apache server uses for type depends on the name.
You cannot use a different thing in the name than what the server is
looking for and get it to work.

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matter, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing 
visors."
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#9656

On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:20:03 -0700 (PDT), steve nospam
<steve.nospamm@gmail.com> wrote:

>I want to use php call to include common HTML code into an html page,
>but can't use php from HTML? what is the deal here? So, how do people
>do this thing then?

I sympathize. I had a similar situation with a site with some html and
some php files. As i refined it and added features i found that pages
I thought would never need dynamic content did. 

There are awkward workarounds, but best might be to just switch all
html files to php. Use a global search-and-replace to change all
instances of '.html' to '.php' and your internal links will all work.

If you need to make a few html redirect pages for folks that have
bookmarked the html links, all you need to redirect index.html is: 

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Home</title>
<meta http-equiv="REFRESH"
content="0;url=http://www.yoursite.org/index.php"></HEAD>
<BODY>
</BODY>
</HTML>

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#9608

On 24/05/13 11:06, steve nospam wrote:

> I found the problem.
>
> I needed to modify the .htaccess file. added this line
>
> AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm
>
> Now it works. php works from inside htm file. No need to change file
> extension.

No, you didn't solve anything at all, you just managed to break your 
site to not work properly.

When you add that line, all the pages ending with ".htm" will be sent 
trough the PHP parser and the majority of your pages will not include 
PHP which means you do something unnecessary by sending them to the PHP 
engine which has to read the whole file and do nothing more.

The fix is rename the files to .php and remove the line from your 
htaccess file. If pages which before been called whatever.htm will 
suddenly be whatever.php, then use Rewrite rules to redirect the user to 
the new page.

RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^whatever.htm$         whatever.php

Now your site will work at the majority of web hosting companies as you 
have your PHP in .php files and RewriteRule is in most cases allowed.


Note: When people say you can use PHP in HTML, they ain't talking about 
the file extension, but that you can mix plain HTML with PHP code, for 
example:

--- example.php ---
<html>
  <head>
   <title>example file with mixed php and html</title>
  </head>
  <body>
   <h1><?php echo "this is an example"; ?></h1>
   <?php echo "this code is quite stupid, but shows how you can make a 
badly coded site"; ?>
  </body>
</html>
--- eof ---

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#9611

On 5/24/2013 2:26 PM, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 24/05/13 11:06, steve nospam wrote:
>
>> I found the problem.
>>
>> I needed to modify the .htaccess file. added this line
>>
>> AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm
>>
>> Now it works. php works from inside htm file. No need to change file
>> extension.
>
> No, you didn't solve anything at all, you just managed to break your
> site to not work properly.
>
> When you add that line, all the pages ending with ".htm" will be sent
> trough the PHP parser and the majority of your pages will not include
> PHP which means you do something unnecessary by sending them to the PHP
> engine which has to read the whole file and do nothing more.
>
> The fix is rename the files to .php and remove the line from your
> htaccess file. If pages which before been called whatever.htm will
> suddenly be whatever.php, then use Rewrite rules to redirect the user to
> the new page.
>
> RewriteEngine On
> RewriteRule ^whatever.htm$         whatever.php
>
> Now your site will work at the majority of web hosting companies as you
> have your PHP in .php files and RewriteRule is in most cases allowed.
>
>
> Note: When people say you can use PHP in HTML, they ain't talking about
> the file extension, but that you can mix plain HTML with PHP code, for
> example:
>
> --- example.php ---
> <html>
>   <head>
>    <title>example file with mixed php and html</title>
>   </head>
>   <body>
>    <h1><?php echo "this is an example"; ?></h1>
>    <?php echo "this code is quite stupid, but shows how you can make a
> badly coded site"; ?>
>   </body>
> </html>
> --- eof ---
>

This also only bypasses the problem - and will require a redirect for 
the life of the website (even if he changes hosts).

Better is to put in a 301 redirect for the pages; search engines will 
pick up the redirect and link to the new page.

It can be done easily in the .htaccess file (more info on how to do it 
correctly an alt.apache.configuration).

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#9579

On 5/24/2013 4:08 AM, steve nospam wrote:
> newbie.
>
> could someone explain why this does not work?
>
> <!DOCTYPE html>
> <html>
> <body>
> <p>before
>
> <?php echo "do you see this?"; ?>
>
> <p>after
> </body>
> </html>
>
> I spend 2 hrs and tried everything and read many things, but message
> in echo does not show on the browser. I upload this to the web server.
> I also have local web server running. Both support php. I see no error
> in the access log file and no error in the php error log file. So the
> page is bring loaded OK by the web server. But I do not see the echo.
> What Ami doing wrong?
>
> cheers,
> steve
>

Look at the source in your browser.  You will see the message, including 
the <?php echo...

The web server will not (by default) pass pages to the PHP interpreter 
unless they have a .php extension.  You can include PHP code in html 
code, but need to parse them as PHP.

If you're using Apache, you could change the Apache configuration to 
pass all pages to the PHP interpreter, but this can cause extra load on 
the server due to unnecessarily parsing non-PHP pages as PHP code.  It 
is also not portable and will not run on hosts where this type of 
configuration is not allowed.

Your best bet is to simply change the files you need to include PHP code 
in to a .php extension and fix the links on your site.  For external 
links, configure your web server to do a permanent redirect from the old 
page to the new (see your web server configuration for more information 
on how to do this).

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#9584

> Your best bet is to simply change the files you need to include PHP code
> in to a .php extension and fix the links on your site.  For external
> links, configure your web server to do a permanent redirect from the old
> page to the new (see your web server configuration for more information
> on how to do this).
>
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> ==================

I can't do this. I need to include common html code to every html file
I have. This means I have to change the extension  of 1000's of html
files to .php and therefore any outside links and any google searches
will be broken now.

May be I should have done this at first, but too late now to change
index.htm to index.php.

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#9590

On 5/24/2013 10:14 AM, steve nospam wrote:
>
>> Your best bet is to simply change the files you need to include PHP code
>> in to a .php extension and fix the links on your site.  For external
>> links, configure your web server to do a permanent redirect from the old
>> page to the new (see your web server configuration for more information
>> on how to do this).
>>
>
> I can't do this. I need to include common html code to every html file
> I have. This means I have to change the extension  of 1000's of html
> files to .php and therefore any outside links and any google searches
> will be broken now.
>

You only need to change the file names for those files which include php 
code.  Files which do not contain HTML code need no changes.  But yes, 
if you're going to add php code to thousands of html files, then you 
need to change the extensions of thousands of files.

And no, the external links are NOT broken if you do a permanent redirect 
as I suggested before.  That's what it is there for.

> May be I should have done this at first, but too late now to change
> index.htm to index.php.
>

No, it is not too late if you understand how to properly configure your 
web server.

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#9591

On May 24, 9:38 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:

>
> No, it is not too late if you understand how to properly configure your
> web server.
>

I can;t configure or change the web server. As I said, I use a web
hosting
company. I am on a shared sever used by 100's others on the main
server.

I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to
please
edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.

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#9593

On 5/24/2013 10:53 AM, steve nospam wrote:
> On May 24, 9:38 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> No, it is not too late if you understand how to properly configure your
>> web server.
>>
>
> I can;t configure or change the web server. As I said, I use a web
> hosting
> company. I am on a shared sever used by 100's others on the main
> server.
>

You can still do redirects.  That is something EVERY web host supports.

> I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to
> please
> edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.
>

If you're using Apache, it can be done in the .htaccess file. Other web 
servers have similar ways.

Learn to use the tools you have before claiming something "cannot be done".

Do you want to fix your problem or just cry about it?  So far, all 
you've done is the latter.

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#9597

steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ad1267f0-4f45-4044-afc5-699315dd59e6@g3g2000yqg.googlegroups.c
om: 

> On May 24, 9:38 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net>
> wrote: 
> 
>>
>> No, it is not too late if you understand how to properly
>> configure your web server.
>>
> 
> I can;t configure or change the web server. As I said, I use a
> web hosting  company. I am on a shared sever used by 100's
> others on the main server.

That doesn't mean you can't change the configuration for your portion of it.

> I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to
> please edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.

No, that's true, you can't. Fortunately, you don't need to. You should be able to do everything 
you need in the .htaccess file in your web root directory. You possibly will need to add a 
php.ini file as well -- see below:

<contents of php.ini>
auto_prepend_file = "<file to be prepended to everything generated by php>"
include_path      = "<path(s) to various directories where include files are located>"
expose_php        = off
display_errors    = off

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#9603

On 5/24/2013 11:18 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
> steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:ad1267f0-4f45-4044-afc5-699315dd59e6@g3g2000yqg.googlegroups.c
> om:
>
>> On May 24, 9:38 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No, it is not too late if you understand how to properly
>>> configure your web server.
>>>
>>
>> I can;t configure or change the web server. As I said, I use a
>> web hosting  company. I am on a shared sever used by 100's
>> others on the main server.
>
> That doesn't mean you can't change the configuration for your portion of it.
>
>> I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to
>> please edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.
>
> No, that's true, you can't. Fortunately, you don't need to. You should be able to do everything
> you need in the .htaccess file in your web root directory. You possibly will need to add a
> php.ini file as well -- see below:
>
> <contents of php.ini>
> auto_prepend_file = "<file to be prepended to everything generated by php>"
> include_path      = "<path(s) to various directories where include files are located>"
> expose_php        = off
> display_errors    = off
>
>
>
>

None of which have anything to do with his problem...

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#9636

> That doesn't mean you can't change the configuration for your portion of it.
> 
>> I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to
>> please edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.
> 
> No, that's true, you can't. Fortunately, you don't need to. You should be able to do everything 
> you need in the .htaccess file in your web root directory. You possibly will need to add a 

This presumes that the hosting company has not put the directive
"AllowOverride None" in their configuration for your site.  (For
Apache 2.3.9 and later, this is the default).  It speeds up serving
web pages slightly by never looking for .htaccess files at all.
Therefore, you can't do redirects in .htaccess .  If you discover
that your hosting company does this and they won't budge, find
another hosting company.

I recall trying to help some friends dealing with a hosting company
paranoid about security, at least for cheap/free accounts.  One
official way to close your account was to upload a .htaccess file
(containing anything at all, or nothing at all).  Your account would
be gone within an hour.  So would all the other accounts using the
same payment account.  And no, you couldn't get it back, except
perhaps by using a fake name and different domain name and payment
account.  This was long ago and they offered essentially NO active
content or PHP except a hit counter CGI they provided.

You *CAN* do a redirect with pure HTML (done in the user's browser):

    <HEAD>
	<META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" CONTENT="1;URL=http://mysite.com/path/foobar.php">
    </HEAD>

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#9637

Gordon Burditt wrote:

> […]
> You *CAN* do a redirect with pure HTML (done in the user's browser):
> 
>     <HEAD>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh"
> CONTENT="1;URL=http://mysite.com/path/foobar.php">
>     </HEAD>

But this does not always work, and it is *strongly* recommended *against* 
anyway:

<http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback>


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#9646

On 5/24/2013 11:59 PM, Gordon Burditt wrote:
>> That doesn't mean you can't change the configuration for your portion of it.
>>
>>> I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to
>>> please edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.
>>
>> No, that's true, you can't. Fortunately, you don't need to. You should be able to do everything
>> you need in the .htaccess file in your web root directory. You possibly will need to add a
>
> This presumes that the hosting company has not put the directive
> "AllowOverride None" in their configuration for your site.  (For
> Apache 2.3.9 and later, this is the default).  It speeds up serving
> web pages slightly by never looking for .htaccess files at all.
> Therefore, you can't do redirects in .htaccess .  If you discover
> that your hosting company does this and they won't budge, find
> another hosting company.
>
> I recall trying to help some friends dealing with a hosting company
> paranoid about security, at least for cheap/free accounts.  One
> official way to close your account was to upload a .htaccess file
> (containing anything at all, or nothing at all).  Your account would
> be gone within an hour.  So would all the other accounts using the
> same payment account.  And no, you couldn't get it back, except
> perhaps by using a fake name and different domain name and payment
> account.  This was long ago and they offered essentially NO active
> content or PHP except a hit counter CGI they provided.
>
> You *CAN* do a redirect with pure HTML (done in the user's browser):
>
>      <HEAD>
> 	<META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" CONTENT="1;URL=http://mysite.com/path/foobar.php">
>      </HEAD>
>

Yes, but any hosting company which does that won't be in business for 
long.  For instance, most CMS's depend on being able to use mod_rewrite.

Doing it in HTML requires maintaining a whole set of additional files.


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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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#9623

On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:53:52 -0700, steve nospam wrote:

> I can;t configure or change the web server. As I said, I use a web
> hosting company. I am on a shared sever used by 100's others on the main
> server.
> 
> I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to please
> edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.

OK, so here's a list of other things you can not do:

- You can not change the server so that it processes htm files as php 
files.

Here's a list of things you can do:

+ You can download all the files from the server webroot to your local 
machine to bulk edit them
+ You can use tools such as sed to change every local url from .htm 
to .php
+ You can rename all the .htm files to .php files
+ You can automate the redirection of requests to *.htm to serve up the 
*.php files instead
+ You can upload all the fixed files to the server webroot

External and existing search engine links will still work, because 
requesting the old .htm file will get the new .php file automatically.

This is not a technically difficult fix, although you may need to spend a 
bit of time on getting to grips with the changes that need to be made and 
the tools that can make them if you have never had to do anything like 
this before. However, for any reasonably experienced website maintainer, 
this is probably the sort of issue that gets thrown at them occasionally 
(in some cases very regularly) and it's good practice to get used to 
using the sort of tools that can be used to sole such issues.

-- 
Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com

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#9633

On 5/24/2013 3:49 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:53:52 -0700, steve nospam wrote:
>
>> I can;t configure or change the web server. As I said, I use a web
>> hosting company. I am on a shared sever used by 100's others on the main
>> server.
>>
>> I can't call my hosting company talk to tech support and tell to please
>> edit the server config files for me and see if this will work.
>
> OK, so here's a list of other things you can not do:
>
> - You can not change the server so that it processes htm files as php
> files.
>
> Here's a list of things you can do:
>
> + You can download all the files from the server webroot to your local
> machine to bulk edit them
> + You can use tools such as sed to change every local url from .htm
> to .php
> + You can rename all the .htm files to .php files
> + You can automate the redirection of requests to *.htm to serve up the
> *.php files instead
> + You can upload all the fixed files to the server webroot
>
> External and existing search engine links will still work, because
> requesting the old .htm file will get the new .php file automatically.
>
> This is not a technically difficult fix, although you may need to spend a
> bit of time on getting to grips with the changes that need to be made and
> the tools that can make them if you have never had to do anything like
> this before. However, for any reasonably experienced website maintainer,
> this is probably the sort of issue that gets thrown at them occasionally
> (in some cases very regularly) and it's good practice to get used to
> using the sort of tools that can be used to sole such issues.
>

+1

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#9595

steve nospam <steve.nospamm@gmail.com> wrote in news:f8f531ee-6d30-49e5-a981-
b7725a253276@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> 
>> Your best bet is to simply change the files you need to include PHP code
>> in to a .php extension and fix the links on your site.  For external
>> links, configure your web server to do a permanent redirect from the old
>> page to the new (see your web server configuration for more information
>> on how to do this).
> 
> I can't do this.

Yes, you can. 

> I need to include common html code to every html file
> I have. 

I understand that.

>This means I have to change the extension  of 1000's of html
> files to .php and therefore any outside links and any google searches
> will be broken now.

No, it does *not* mean that. As Jerry said -- configure your web server to do a permanent 
redirection from the old page to the new.

See http://www.somacon.com/p145.php for ideas. The section most likely to be useful to 
you is about 1/3 of the way down the page, "Redirection with mod_rewrite".
 
> May be I should have done this at first, but too late now to change
> index.htm to index.php.

So  don't change them. Redirect them.

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