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PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable?

Started byGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
First post2013-04-06 18:40 +0200
Last post2013-04-09 08:32 +0000
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  PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> - 2013-04-06 18:40 +0200
    Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-06 14:28 -0400
    Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-04-06 11:34 -0700
      Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-04-06 22:11 +0200
    Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2013-04-07 20:33 +0800
      Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> - 2013-04-07 14:46 +0200
        Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-04-07 15:13 +0200
        Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-07 16:06 +0100
      Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2013-04-07 09:24 -0500
        Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2013-04-08 19:05 +0800
          Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-04-08 20:58 -0700
            Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-04-09 10:24 +0200
              Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? JohnT <john@example.com> - 2013-04-09 08:32 +0000

#8960 — PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable?

FromGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
Date2013-04-06 18:40 +0200
SubjectPHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable?
Message-ID<kjpj66$rf$1@speranza.aioe.org>
Hi everybody,
Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?

I mean, how the performance is?

Thank you

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Giacomo

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#8963

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2013-04-06 14:28 -0400
Message-ID<kjppb2$ukc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8960
On 4/6/2013 12:40 PM, Giacomo M wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>
> I mean, how the performance is?
>
> Thank you
>

Impossible to say without a LOT more information - especially the 
conditions under which is running.

What you're asking is is the performance of a Honda Civic suitable. 
Sure, for around town and on the highway.  But I wouldn't try one on a 
NASCAR track.

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#8965

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2013-04-06 11:34 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-FC043A.11343606042013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#8960
In article <kjpj66$rf$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
> 
> I mean, how the performance is?
> 
> Thank you

PHP with MySQL is much more common.  PHP is really optimized for the 
Linux environment.  If you get it to work, post what you did.

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#8967

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2013-04-06 22:11 +0200
Message-ID<2115503.DhVHKmByyt@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#8965
Michael Vilain wrote:

> Giacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it> wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>> 
>> I mean, how the performance is?
> 
> PHP with MySQL is much more common.

ACK.

> PHP is really optimized for the Linux environment.

Nonsense.

> If you get it to work, post what you did.

RTFM and the AUP of your Usenet provider.


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#8978

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2013-04-07 20:33 +0800
Message-ID<kjrouh$o4u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8960
On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
> I mean, how the performance is?

OS: Windows or Linux?

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#8980

FromGiacomo M <kylnas@tiscali.it>
Date2013-04-07 14:46 +0200
Message-ID<kjrprg$khc$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#8978
Il 07/04/2013 14:33, Mr. Man-wai Chang ha scritto:
> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>> I mean, how the performance is?
>
> OS: Windows or Linux?

Windows.
The web site will be big with something like 1000 access per day.

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#8982

From"M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee>
Date2013-04-07 15:13 +0200
Message-ID<asd9nvF4n7vU1@mid.uni-berlin.de>
In reply to#8980
Am 07.04.2013 14:46, schrieb Giacomo M:
> Il 07/04/2013 14:33, Mr. Man-wai Chang ha scritto:
>> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
>>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>>> I mean, how the performance is?
>>
>> OS: Windows or Linux?
> 
> Windows.
> The web site will be big with something like 1000 access per day.
> 

This is 0,7 accesses per minute. The cheapest Web Space will do.

/Str.

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#8992

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-04-07 16:06 +0100
Message-ID<kjs213$pa5$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#8980
On 07/04/13 13:46, Giacomo M wrote:
> Il 07/04/2013 14:33, Mr. Man-wai Chang ha scritto:
>> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
>>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>>> I mean, how the performance is?
>>
>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>
> Windows.
> The web site will be big with something like 1000 access per day.
>
1/. 1000 accesses a *second* is BIG.

2/. BIG and 'using windows' should never be uttered in the same sentence


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#8988

FromRobert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Date2013-04-07 09:24 -0500
Message-ID<UY2dnYyPJeMSHPzMnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#8978
At Sun, 07 Apr 2013 20:33:49 +0800 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
> > Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
> > I mean, how the performance is?
> 
> OS: Windows or Linux?

MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a
network connection (it is not generally not not considered a good idea
to access a SQL server (of any type) over a network connection,
partitularly a *public* Internet connection, from a security POV). 
Note: accessing ANY SQL server over a network will be performance
limited by the network connection. 

> 

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#9007

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2013-04-08 19:05 +0800
Message-ID<kju84k$5ac$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8988
On 7/04/2013 22:24, Robert Heller wrote:
>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>
> MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
> much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a

You could use a virtual machine to run M$ SQL $erver inside Linux! Not 
sure if Wine could cut it... Anyway, don't overload it! :)


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#9012

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2013-04-08 20:58 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-4B0511.20575908042013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#9007
In article <kju84k$5ac$4@dont-email.me>,
 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/04/2013 22:24, Robert Heller wrote:
> >> OS: Windows or Linux?
> >
> > MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
> > much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a
> 
> You could use a virtual machine to run M$ SQL $erver inside Linux! Not 
> sure if Wine could cut it... Anyway, don't overload it! :)

I seem to recall that MS SQL SERVER is engineered to require a real 
system to run.  It won't run in a VM. Leastways that the way it was a 
few years ago.  Maybe MS changed SQL SERVER to support running in a VM.

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#9013

From"M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee>
Date2013-04-09 10:24 +0200
Message-ID<asi1hdF6onrU1@mid.uni-berlin.de>
In reply to#9012
Am 09.04.2013 05:58, schrieb Michael Vilain:
> In article <kju84k$5ac$4@dont-email.me>,
>  "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/04/2013 22:24, Robert Heller wrote:
>>>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>>>
>>> MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
>>> much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a
>>
>> You could use a virtual machine to run M$ SQL $erver inside Linux! Not 
>> sure if Wine could cut it... Anyway, don't overload it! :)
> 
> I seem to recall that MS SQL SERVER is engineered to require a real 
> system to run.  It won't run in a VM. Leastways that the way it was a 
> few years ago.  Maybe MS changed SQL SERVER to support running in a VM.
> 
Just looked it up, VMware vSphere is selling as MS SQL Server platform, and licensing
for MS SQL Server 2012 has entries for VM licences.


/Str.

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#9014

FromJohnT <john@example.com>
Date2013-04-09 08:32 +0000
Message-ID<kk0jnq$f3p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#9013
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:24:13 +0200, M. Strobel wrote:

> Am 09.04.2013 05:58, schrieb Michael Vilain:

>> I seem to recall that MS SQL SERVER is engineered to require a real
>> system to run.  It won't run in a VM. Leastways that the way it was a
>> few years ago.  Maybe MS changed SQL SERVER to support running in a VM.
>> 
> Just looked it up, VMware vSphere is selling as MS SQL Server platform,
> and licensing for MS SQL Server 2012 has entries for VM licences.
> 
> 
> /Str.

Running SQL Server here in a VMWare VM with no issues.

I'm working on a website that I'm slowly converting to PHP.
Half is running ASP, and half PHP. All running in a windows VM without 
any issues (once I figured out what the connect string was !).

I wouldn't have chosen SQL Server if I'd had the choice, but that's what 
I've got to work with, and it works as well as SQL Server ever does.

Regards
JohnT

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