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| Started by | BobMCT <r.mariotti@fdcx.net> |
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| First post | 2013-01-02 21:50 -0500 |
| Last post | 2013-01-05 09:51 -0800 |
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Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? BobMCT <r.mariotti@fdcx.net> - 2013-01-02 21:50 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-02 23:15 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-03 10:25 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2013-01-03 06:52 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-03 14:18 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2013-01-04 07:06 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-04 08:52 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-01-04 10:50 -0600
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-04 18:13 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-04 14:40 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2013-01-05 11:13 -0700
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 18:31 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2013-01-04 15:19 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-04 20:21 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-01-04 21:39 -0600
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 04:32 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-05 09:45 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-01-05 10:47 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 12:59 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-01-15 11:36 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-15 13:28 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-01-15 15:48 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-15 15:05 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-15 18:55 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-04 19:25 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-01-05 04:01 -0700
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-05 08:35 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-01-05 12:07 -0700
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-05 14:51 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-01-05 15:47 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 15:59 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-01-05 18:51 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 18:30 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 18:44 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 18:42 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-01-05 19:47 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-05 14:52 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-06 12:11 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-01-06 13:41 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-06 08:23 -0500
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-06 13:53 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 18:25 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-01-04 15:22 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-04 15:40 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-01-05 04:06 -0700
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-01-06 01:56 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 13:55 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-05 17:51 +0100
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-01-04 22:30 +0000
Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-01-05 09:51 -0800
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-06 13:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <kcbvll$967$5@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #8037 |
On 06/01/13 12:41, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: > >> On 05/01/13 18:47, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > >>> Could you then please base that discussion on some factors that at >>> least *pretend* to be objective? > >> Well go to google archives and see if you can find even ONE example of >> code provided by jerry that he has in fact written. > > I did that once. It took me a very long time to find a post with > actual code in it. I was not impressed by the quality. > > I tried to re-find it, but no luck. Instead I found an interesting > quote from Mr. Stuckle himself: > > And the number of years one has been programming is not an > indication of the quality of the programmer. > IN his case, true. he's always been crap. > I seem to recall that at other times, the opposite have been written. > >> Those who can, do, those who cant, teach. >> >> And criticise. > > Yep. > -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-05 18:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <kc9r61$bsv$4@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #8020 |
On 05/01/13 15:47, Doug Miller wrote: > crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> wrote in news:kc915i0co4@news3.newsguy.com: > >> On 01/04/2013 06:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> Sorry, I agree. A DEVELOPER has an IDE. A hacker uses an editor. >> >> Please, Jerry; such unthinking buffoonery is beneath you, > > No, it's not. > Its his speciality. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
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| From | Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> |
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| Date | 2013-01-04 15:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kc6oj3$s5g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8000 |
Am 2013-01-04 13:06, bill meinte: > On 1/3/2013 8:18 AM, M. Strobel wrote: >> Am 03.01.2013 12:52, schrieb bill: >>> >>>> >>>> Use xdebug, and a IDE that does it, for example Komodo IDE. >>> >>> Is there a remote debugger that does not require and IDE? >>> ie: one I can open in a 2nd browser window? >>> >> >> I once found a xdebug_client directly from the makers at xdebug.org, >> but it was in >> alpha state. >> >> You can dump execution traces. >> >> But why worry? A developer has an IDE. >> >> /Str. >> > > I prefer HTML-Kit Tools as an editor and it is not part of an IDE. Then you are not a developer. Gregor
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2013-01-04 15:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1580602.0FtDiLlaFD@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #8002 |
Gregor Kofler wrote: > Am 2013-01-04 13:06, bill meinte: >> On 1/3/2013 8:18 AM, M. Strobel wrote: >>> Am 03.01.2013 12:52, schrieb bill: >>>>> Use xdebug, and a IDE that does it, for example Komodo IDE. >>>> Is there a remote debugger that does not require and IDE? >>>> ie: one I can open in a 2nd browser window? >>> >>> I once found a xdebug_client directly from the makers at xdebug.org, >>> but it was in >>> alpha state. >>> >>> You can dump execution traces. >>> >>> But why worry? A developer has an IDE. >> >> I prefer HTML-Kit Tools as an editor and it is not part of an IDE. > > Then you are not a developer. “No true Scotsman” fallacy. It would be logical to point out instead that an IDE-integrated editor such as Eclipse PDT has advantages such as integrated remote debugging over a standalone one. PointedEars -- When all you know is jQuery, every problem looks $(olvable).
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| From | crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-05 04:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <kc91fe1co4@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #8002 |
On 01/04/2013 07:22 AM, Gregor Kofler wrote: > Am 2013-01-04 13:06, bill meinte: >> On 1/3/2013 8:18 AM, M. Strobel wrote: >>> Am 03.01.2013 12:52, schrieb bill: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Use xdebug, and a IDE that does it, for example Komodo IDE. >>>> >>>> Is there a remote debugger that does not require and IDE? >>>> ie: one I can open in a 2nd browser window? >>>> >>> >>> I once found a xdebug_client directly from the makers at xdebug.org, >>> but it was in >>> alpha state. >>> >>> You can dump execution traces. >>> >>> But why worry? A developer has an IDE. >>> >>> /Str. >>> >> >> I prefer HTML-Kit Tools as an editor and it is not part of an IDE. > > Then you are not a developer. > > Gregor > You forgot the smiley. You must have forgotten the smiley, you couldn't possibly be as stupid as saying that and meaning it indicates. Next time remember the smiley.
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| From | Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> |
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| Date | 2013-01-06 01:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kcai3b$65v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8016 |
Am 2013-01-05 12:06, crankypuss meinte: > You forgot the smiley. You must have forgotten the smiley, you couldn't > possibly be as stupid as saying that and meaning it indicates. Next > time remember the smiley. Thanks for pointing out - won't happen again. Promised.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2013-01-05 13:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <timstreater-9DD8B7.13552305012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #8002 |
In article <kc6oj3$s5g$1@dont-email.me>, Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> wrote: > Am 2013-01-04 13:06, bill meinte: > > On 1/3/2013 8:18 AM, M. Strobel wrote: > >> Am 03.01.2013 12:52, schrieb bill: > >>>> Use xdebug, and a IDE that does it, for example Komodo IDE. > >>> > >>> Is there a remote debugger that does not require and IDE? > >>> ie: one I can open in a 2nd browser window? > >> I once found a xdebug_client directly from the makers at xdebug.org, > >> but it was in alpha state. > >> > >> You can dump execution traces. > >> > >> But why worry? A developer has an IDE. > > I prefer HTML-Kit Tools as an editor and it is not part of an IDE. > > Then you are not a developer. Big nonsense. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> |
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| Date | 2013-01-05 17:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <akr41fFk1m1U1@mid.uni-berlin.de> |
| In reply to | #8019 |
Am 05.01.2013 14:55, schrieb Tim Streater: > In article <kc6oj3$s5g$1@dont-email.me>, > Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> wrote: > >> Am 2013-01-04 13:06, bill meinte: >> > On 1/3/2013 8:18 AM, M. Strobel wrote: >> >> Am 03.01.2013 12:52, schrieb bill: > >> >>>> Use xdebug, and a IDE that does it, for example Komodo IDE. >> >>> >> >>> Is there a remote debugger that does not require and IDE? >> >>> ie: one I can open in a 2nd browser window? > >> >> I once found a xdebug_client directly from the makers at xdebug.org, >> >> but it was in alpha state. >> >> >> >> You can dump execution traces. >> >> >> >> But why worry? A developer has an IDE. >> > I prefer HTML-Kit Tools as an editor and it is not part of an IDE. >> >> Then you are not a developer. > > Big nonsense. Are you sure you're having fun? We are at the basics of logic, that every programmer must know: isDev(a) ⇒ hasIde(a) ¬hasIde(a) ⇒ ¬isDev(a) /Str. hoping you are not using a 7 bit limited world view, so you can reason about this
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2013-01-04 22:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <kc7l64$ivs$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #7993 |
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
BobMCT <r.mariotti@fdcx.net> spake the secret code
<26s9e8l3cneb5b4a3tim6qutmnl9g7ca2i@4ax.com> thusly:
>I'm not asking anyone to fix my bug(s), just provide some insight on
>good/useful php debuggers.
I've been using PHPStorm from JetBrains for local debugging under
Windows. I don't have unrestricted access to the remote host where
the application is deployed, so I mostly debug locally with a local
instance of mysql and PHP running under IIS.
It works just fine for debugging, but I have a feeling I haven't
completely setup the run configurations properly as I haven't yet
managed to coax the IDE into running my PHPUnit unit tests. I still
run those from a command prompt.
My project is open source: <http://manx.codeplex.com>
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| From | Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> |
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| Date | 2013-01-05 09:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <kc9p6d$akj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7993 |
On 1/2/2013 6:50 PM, BobMCT wrote: > I've introduced an elusive bug into a rather large PHP program. I've > been debugging it my usual ways for several weeks now without success. > > I would like to "watch" certain vairables to see when they are altered > and where as well as to what. I've installed xdebug on my server and > netbeans IDE on my Windoze desktop. I can't figure out how to "watch" > a variable. Otherwise I've got the IDE working. > > I've also tried installing phpbuglost as a debugger. Looks promising > but I can't get it to work. I also found debugConsole but that seems > to be defunt. > > So, I'm asking for suggestions and, regarding the phpbuglost, how did > anyone get it working? > > I'm not asking anyone to fix my bug(s), just provide some insight on > good/useful php debuggers. > > Thanks all. > Warning to anyone entering this thread. Make sure you are wearing eye protection and cups if needed. It is getting pretty vicious (as usual).
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