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| Started by | Michael Joel <no@please.com> |
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| First post | 2011-12-28 13:46 -0500 |
| Last post | 2011-12-29 02:47 +0100 |
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filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Michael Joel <no@please.com> - 2011-12-28 13:46 -0500
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-28 18:55 +0000
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmacdotcom@example.com> - 2011-12-28 14:05 -0500
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-28 19:23 +0000
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Michael Joel <no@please.com> - 2011-12-28 14:27 -0500
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-28 19:42 +0000
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2011-12-29 06:05 +0000
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> - 2011-12-29 18:34 +0100
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? bill <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2011-12-28 16:37 -0500
Re: filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? "Greg N." <yodel_dodel@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-29 02:47 +0100
| From | Michael Joel <no@please.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 13:46 -0500 |
| Subject | filtering profanity and obscene language - a list? |
| Message-ID | <6qomf7p4svdj66f6ooq7vn56rg3081ef16@4ax.com> |
Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list already made to check against. Thanks Mike P.S. Please be serious :)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 18:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jdfomg$qoj$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #4161 |
Michael Joel wrote: > Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I > need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list > already made to check against. > > Thanks > Mike > > P.S. Please be serious :) Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to have a 'report' button and a moderator. Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters The law is an ass. I tossed the pancake Have you been to Scunthorpe? Labrador bitch for sale. It's only a pin prick. The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine. I really like shitake mushrooms.
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| From | Doug Miller <doug_at_milmacdotcom@example.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 14:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jdfpb5$anf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4162 |
On 12/28/2011 1:55 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Michael Joel wrote: >> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I >> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list >> already made to check against. >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> P.S. Please be serious :) > > Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to > have a 'report' button and a moderator. > > Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters > > > The law is an ass. > I tossed the pancake > Have you been to Scunthorpe? > Labrador bitch for sale. > It's only a pin prick. > The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine. > I really like shitake mushrooms. Not to mention things which might *not* fall foul of a preprogrammed filter, such as $h!t, @$$ho1e, etc. Or b a d w o r d, b.a.d.w.o.r.d, b_a_d_w_o_r_d, etc.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 19:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jdfqbv$tvu$3@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #4163 |
Doug Miller wrote: > On 12/28/2011 1:55 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> Michael Joel wrote: >>> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I >>> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list >>> already made to check against. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Mike >>> >>> P.S. Please be serious :) >> >> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to >> have a 'report' button and a moderator. >> >> Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters >> >> >> The law is an ass. >> I tossed the pancake >> Have you been to Scunthorpe? >> Labrador bitch for sale. >> It's only a pin prick. >> The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine. >> I really like shitake mushrooms. > > Not to mention things which might *not* fall foul of a preprogrammed > filter, such as $h!t, @$$ho1e, etc. Or b a d w o r d, b.a.d.w.o.r.d, > b_a_d_w_o_r_d, etc. You are an anagram of that well known Danish king - Cnut.
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| From | Michael Joel <no@please.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 14:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0crmf7tlf49n6m8v1dkvkp1b9dp6me7p9g@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #4162 |
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:55:11 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >Michael Joel wrote: >> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I >> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list >> already made to check against. >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> P.S. Please be serious :) > >Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to >have a 'report' button and a moderator. > >Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters > > >The law is an ass. >I tossed the pancake >Have you been to Scunthorpe? >Labrador bitch for sale. >It's only a pin prick. >The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine. >I really like shitake mushrooms. This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort to sheild the users. Mike
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 19:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jdfrfh$vtv$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #4165 |
Michael Joel wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:55:11 +0000, The Natural Philosopher > <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Michael Joel wrote: >>> Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I >>> need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list >>> already made to check against. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Mike >>> >>> P.S. Please be serious :) >> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to >> have a 'report' button and a moderator. >> >> Examples of things that have fallen foul of these pre programmed filters >> >> >> The law is an ass. >> I tossed the pancake >> Have you been to Scunthorpe? >> Labrador bitch for sale. >> It's only a pin prick. >> The car used to be powered by a Wankel engine. >> I really like shitake mushrooms. > > > This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort > to sheild the users. > indeed. But my point is that actually, its worse than useless. > Mike
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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-29 06:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eli$1112290052@qz.little-neck.ny.us> |
| In reply to | #4165 |
In comp.lang.php, Michael Joel <no@please.com> wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to >> have a 'report' button and a moderator. > This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort > to sheild the users. Who are the users you are sheilding? Who is using the form? People all over the world have names and addresses that are real but sound offensive. Have you considered Dick Van Dyke? TNP brought up Scunthorpe, but there's that famous town of Intercourse in Pennsylvania and many places. Unless you are (1) dealing with the mentally incompetant, (2) children (who often have (1) for parents), or a few very other special cases, you should probably just forgetaboutit. You will fail to filter something or will filter something wrong. That guy in Fort Gay got a lot of news attention. Do you want to be responsible for the next uproar? Elijah ------ thinks it childish when people won't use, e.g., "fuck" even in direct quotes
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| From | houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-29 18:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <slrnjfp95p.5ib.houghi@penne.houghi> |
| In reply to | #4174 |
Eli the Bearded wrote: > In comp.lang.php, Michael Joel <no@please.com> wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> Frankly these obscenity filters make a mockery of posting. Far better to >>> have a 'report' button and a moderator. >> This is for an email delivery form. It is at least a good faith effort >> to sheild the users. > > Who are the users you are sheilding? Who is using the form? <snip> I agree. It is not the language that is abusive, it is the users that are either abusive or perceive it as abusive. Context is also a major thing. It also depends on context. Filtering out the users who are (perceived as) abusive will be easier then filtering out the language. houghi -- Remind me to write an article on the compulsive reading of news. The theme will be that most neuroses can be traced to the unhealthy habit of wallowing in the troubles of five billion strangers. -- Heinlein
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| From | bill <nobody@spamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 16:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <PZCdnXMJQ--0EWbTnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@cablespeedmi.com> |
| In reply to | #4161 |
On 12/28/2011 1:46 PM, Michael Joel wrote: > Anyone know of a premade list of profanity and obscenity language. I > need to make a filter and it would of course be a help to have a list > already made to check against. > > Thanks > Mike > > P.S. Please be serious :) How many languages do you need to check ? bill
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| From | "Greg N." <yodel_dodel@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-29 02:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jdggre$rkn$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4167 |
On 28.12.2011 22:37, bill wrote: > How many languages do you need to check ? Good point. I once wrote some German text on a system equipped with an English foul language filter. I'm still convinced the responsible programmer, that poor old sod, was the biggest idiot ever. -- Gregor
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