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  best editor bob <bob@coolgroups.com> - 2011-09-13 04:09 -0700
    Re: best editor Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-09-13 07:24 -0400
    Re: best editor Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2011-09-13 13:34 +0200
    Re: best editor Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-09-13 12:54 +0100
    Re: best editor "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2011-09-13 10:18 -0500
      Re: best editor "A" <a@a.a> - 2011-09-13 19:42 +0200
        Re: best editor "A" <a@a.a> - 2011-09-13 19:47 +0200
          Re: best editor Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2011-09-13 20:44 -0700
            Re: best editor Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-09-14 13:57 +0200
              Re: best editor "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2011-09-14 14:29 +0200
    Re: best editor Federico Mendez <mendezfederico87@gmail.com> - 2011-09-14 16:58 -0700
      Re: best editor Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2011-09-15 10:24 +0200
    Re: best editor Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-09-15 20:01 +0000
      Re: best editor Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> - 2011-09-16 12:38 -0500
        Re: best editor "Twayne" <twayne@twaynesdomain.com> - 2011-09-16 20:00 -0400
    Re: best editor hasitha <hpathiraja@gmail.com> - 2011-09-16 16:34 -0700
    Re: best editor "bgulian@gmail.com" <bgulian@gmail.com> - 2011-09-17 06:38 -0700
      Re: best editor sajin <tmsajin@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 21:26 -0700
    Re: best editor Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-27 11:33 -0400
    Re: best editor tamouse <tamouse.lists@gmail.com> - 2011-09-28 11:14 -0700
      Re: best editor Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-09-28 20:47 +0100

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#3137 — best editor

What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?

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#3138

On 9/13/2011 7:09 AM, bob wrote:
> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?
>

This is highly a matter of preference.  You'll get 1000 (well, maybe 
999) different answers from 1000 different people.

I happen to like Eclipse.  But that's just my preference.

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#3139

Am 2011-09-13 13:09, bob meinte:
> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?
> 
Editor? Or IDE?

Gregor


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#3140

In article 
<a7e408a6-d2b6-4e7a-9b2a-700081848460@u10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
 bob <bob@coolgroups.com> wrote:

> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?

I use TextWrangler. It's free.

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#3143

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:09:14 -0700 (PDT), bob wrote:
> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?

gVim.

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modern technology that some of these fsckwits still draw breath,
much less a paycheck.
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#3144

i prefer ultraedit on windows but it looks that it has been ported to mac 
finally as well. 

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#3145

by the way here are the features i look first in text/code editor:

- syntax highlighting - pretty much standard with any editor these days
- good macro recording system - easy to record, organize and playback
- column editing mode (and not just any column mode - it should be as good 
as in ultraedit).

so far i haven't found any other editor that implements all of these as good 
as UE and i did try a lot of them including free and commercial ones. 

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#3154

In article <j4o4vn$m7k$1@gregory.bnet.hr>, "A" <a@a.a> wrote:

> by the way here are the features i look first in text/code editor:
> 
> - syntax highlighting - pretty much standard with any editor these days
> - good macro recording system - easy to record, organize and playback
> - column editing mode (and not just any column mode - it should be as good 
> as in ultraedit).
> 
> so far i haven't found any other editor that implements all of these as good 
> as UE and i did try a lot of them including free and commercial ones. 

Haven't come across anything free that does all this on MacOS, unless 
TextWrangler does column editing.  It's big brother, BBEdit does all you 
mention but it was pricey for a text editor at $129.  I was shocked to 
find it's come down to $49.  Maybe they fired the marketing guy or Rich, 
the author finally died.

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#3161

Michael Vilain wrote:

> In article <j4o4vn$m7k$1@gregory.bnet.hr>, "A" <a@a.a> wrote:
>> by the way here are the features i look first in text/code editor:
>> 
>> - syntax highlighting - pretty much standard with any editor these days
>> - good macro recording system - easy to record, organize and playback
>> - column editing mode (and not just any column mode - it should be as
>> good as in ultraedit).
>> 
>> so far i haven't found any other editor that implements all of these as
>> good as UE and i did try a lot of them including free and commercial
>> ones.
> 
> Haven't come across anything free that does all this on MacOS, unless
> TextWrangler does column editing.  It's big brother, BBEdit does all you
> mention but it was pricey for a text editor at $129.  I was shocked to
> find it's come down to $49.  Maybe they fired the marketing guy or Rich,
> the author finally died.

PHP Development Tools (PDT) installed on top of Eclipse 3.7 (Indigo) does 
all of that except macro recording.  You can define code templates, though, 
if additions to the built-in ones are necessary (which you can modify).
Because it is Java-based, Eclipse is virtually platform-independent, and it 
is for free.  Add the Aptana plugin and you have a good PHP (etc.) IDE at no 
cost.

<http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/TUTORIALS>


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#3164

El 14/09/2011 13:57, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn escribió/wrote:
> Michael Vilain wrote:
>>> by the way here are the features i look first in text/code editor:
>>>
>>> - syntax highlighting - pretty much standard with any editor these days
>>> - good macro recording system - easy to record, organize and playback
>>> - column editing mode (and not just any column mode - it should be as
>>> good as in ultraedit).

> PHP Development Tools (PDT) installed on top of Eclipse 3.7 (Indigo) does
> all of that except macro recording.  You can define code templates, though,
> if additions to the built-in ones are necessary (which you can modify).
> Because it is Java-based, Eclipse is virtually platform-independent, and it
> is for free.  Add the Aptana plugin and you have a good PHP (etc.) IDE at no
> cost.

In case you've tried to use column mode in Eclipse and got the 
conclusion that it doesn't exist, please note that it isn't triggered 
with the mouse. The rest of the feature works accordingly.


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#3166

Eclipse is pretty good, though most Windows folks I know prefer using Notepad++. Netbeans is pretty cool too but I think Eclipse's debugger is better, you can also use it with xDebug 

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#3167

Am 2011-09-15 01:58, Federico Mendez meinte:
> Eclipse is pretty good, though most Windows folks I know prefer using Notepad++. Netbeans is pretty cool too but I think Eclipse's debugger is better, you can also use it with xDebug 

Eclipse vs. Notepad++? That's apples and oranges.

Gregor

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#3172

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:09:14 -0700, bob wrote:

> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?

The text editor that you're most comfortable with would be a good start.

If you want something that does syntax highlighting etc, I understand 
some people like bluefish, which I believe is available for the mac. 
Doubtless some people will have various opinions ....

Rgds

Denis McMahon

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#3176

On 9/15/2011 3:01 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:09:14 -0700, bob wrote:
>
>> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?
>
> The text editor that you're most comfortable with would be a good start.
>
> If you want something that does syntax highlighting etc, I understand
> some people like bluefish, which I believe is available for the mac.
> Doubtless some people will have various opinions ....

I've noticed that TextMate seems pretty popular in videos of various web 
framework development systems, including CakePHP, and Behavior Driven 
Development, like Cucumber. Not free - about $60

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#3178

In news:9dhfs7F61oU1@mid.individual.net,
Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> typed:
> On 9/15/2011 3:01 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:09:14 -0700, bob wrote:
>>
>>> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?
>>
>> The text editor that you're most comfortable with would
>> be a good start. If you want something that does syntax highlighting etc,
>> I understand some people like bluefish, which I believe
>> is available for the mac. Doubtless some people will
>> have various opinions ....
>
> I've noticed that TextMate seems pretty popular in videos
> of various web framework development systems, including
> CakePHP, and Behavior Driven Development, like Cucumber.
> Not free - about $60

NoteTAB Pro is by far the best one I've found when there isn't an IDE 
already in exstance. It comes with a PHP library and it's very easy to write 
your own f you want to make it work specifically for certain sets of 
objects. Lots of free libs available too, but there's nothing as useful as 
one you design youself as you're using the program. Highlights, edit as many 
docs at once as memory will hold, good support, free and very reasonable pay 
versions available. NotePad ++ is very good also and can fill in any holes 
NoteTab might leave. Look up NoteTAB on a search engine; you'll fiind it 
very enticing, IMO.

HTH,

Twayne`

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#3177

I personally use Textmate for my day to day development. But from time to time, I also switch to Sublime, Coda, and AquaMacs

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#3179

On Sep 13, 7:09 am, bob <b...@coolgroups.com> wrote:
> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?

For just php, probably Eclipse but if I worked using my machine's LAMP
stack only, I would probably go with Coda or Textmate.  However I do
most of my work on remote servers so I like Eclipse's Remote Server
Explorer and SVN support.

Code and Textmate both cost under $100, Eclipse is free.

Re: Aptana in Eclipse.  I have tried repeatedly to install it under
Indigo (newest Eclipse) and it doesn't show up.  Buggy.

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#3197

On Sep 17, 6:38 pm, "bgul...@gmail.com" <bgul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 13, 7:09 am, bob <b...@coolgroups.com> wrote:
>
> > What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?
>
> For just php, probably Eclipse but if I worked using my machine's LAMP
> stack only, I would probably go with Coda or Textmate.  However I do
> most of my work on remote servers so I like Eclipse's Remote Server
> Explorer and SVN support.
>
> Code and Textmate both cost under $100, Eclipse is free.
>
> Re: Aptana in Eclipse.  I have tried repeatedly to install it under
> Indigo (newest Eclipse) and it doesn't show up.  Buggy.

I was using CodeLobster (Commercial) which supports different
frameworks including codeigniter , joomla, drupal ( except ZF ). The
best thing i found on it is debugging feature without extra parameters
on the debug URL. So it would not break the URL Rewrites and that was
really helpful.
Zend studio also have the same feature , but the support to other
frameworks are less.
I wish if Eclipse could also support the debug feature without extra
URL parameters.

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#3217

On 9/13/2011 7:09 AM, bob wrote:
> What is the best editor to use for php code on Mac?

Vim (and gvim) and Emacs are two editors that emerged out of the UNIX 
world decades ago.  Both are free, portable to many different operating 
systems (UNIX/Linux, Mac, Windows, and many others too), extensible, and 
supported by a large open source programming community.  Both are 
designed as programmer's editors but are adaptable for many other uses 
as well.  Both are based on command sets that have been adopted by other 
implementers so that there are actually alternate versions available of 
both.  Both are well documented and have good support in the newsgroups.

Both of these editors are feature rich but complex.  They require some 
investment in learning time to make good use of them.  You may not want 
to get into that.  However, if you use a text editor all day long for 
many different tasks on several different computers and OSes, with plain 
text and different computer languages, as I do, you might find one of 
them to be a very versatile tool.

Both also have interesting add ons.  One of my favorites is the Emacs 
"org mode" which is a kind of outliner on steroids with some very nice 
features.

Being free is nice too, not just for the initial acquisition, but also 
for all the updates you might need down the road as the editors evolve 
and for when the version you have no longer works on the next computer 
you buy.

     Alan

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#3223

Out of the box, I'd probably say Eclipse with PDT. If you work in many, many languages and want support for all kinds of text editing capabilities, TextMate can't be beat, with the caveat that it costs money. (I bought it several years ago and couldn't be more pleased with it.) I haven't used TextWrangler, though, so I can't really compare there. As others have also mentioned, good ol' Vi(m) and Emacs are also worth contenders.

The problem with anyone making a go at "best editor..." is that you tend to imprint on a particular editor and stick with it through thick and thin as long as it works for you. If you currently have no preference for editor (say, for example, you're coming from the Notepad.exe world of Windows and are new to developing on the Mac) pretty much any of the editors listed here will be a step up.

The mac does have vim and emacs (non-GUI) preinstalled, so you could give those a go before you jump into something like Eclipse+PDT or TextMate/Wrangler if you want. Knowing vim will let you edit on *any* *nix-based system anywhere, so it's a good thing to know anyway.

There is a version of emacs for the mac called Aquamacs. I tried this and I have to say, as a regular emacs user, I found it to have broken too many things emacsish to me. For a GUI emacs, I just use the GNU Emacs available from macports.

That said, jumping into Eclipse+PDT as an integrated IDE is pretty cool way to develop php (and other code).

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