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Only Allow exec in CLI

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First post2012-09-23 16:14 -0700
Last post2012-09-27 10:23 -0700
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  Only Allow exec in CLI cph <cloudpresshosting@gmail.com> - 2012-09-23 16:14 -0700
    Re: Only Allow exec in CLI gordonb.1zi9u@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2012-09-23 20:06 -0500
      Re: Only Allow exec in CLI cph <cloudpresshosting@gmail.com> - 2012-09-23 18:30 -0700
        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-23 22:26 -0400
    Re: Only Allow exec in CLI "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-09-24 13:07 +0200
      Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-24 12:43 +0100
        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-09-24 14:08 +0200
          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2012-09-24 10:45 -0700
            Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2012-09-24 23:57 +0200
        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-09-24 14:16 +0200
        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-09-24 13:19 +0100
          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-24 13:54 +0100
            Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-09-24 16:04 +0200
              Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-24 15:14 +0100
              Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-24 16:09 +0100
                Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-09-24 19:07 +0100
            Re: Only Allow exec in CLI crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-09-25 02:47 -0600
              Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 11:00 +0100
                Re: Only Allow exec in CLI crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-09-25 04:35 -0600
                  Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-09-25 11:44 +0100
                    Re: Only Allow exec in CLI crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-09-25 05:31 -0600
                  Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 12:27 +0100
                    Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-09-25 12:41 +0100
                      Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 12:52 +0100
                        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-09-25 14:23 +0100
                          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 14:46 +0100
                            Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-09-25 15:55 +0100
                              Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 16:13 +0100
                          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 15:05 +0100
                          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 15:05 +0100
                          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-09-25 12:16 -0600
                      Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-25 08:10 -0400
                    Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-25 07:45 -0400
                      Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-25 14:57 +0200
                        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-25 09:03 -0400
                          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-25 15:37 +0200
                            Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-25 12:10 -0400
                              Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-25 18:25 +0200
                                Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-25 14:24 -0400
                                  Re: Only Allow exec in CLI crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-09-25 12:38 -0600
                                    Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-25 20:45 +0200
                                      Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-25 16:08 -0400
                        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2012-09-25 15:12 +0200
                          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-25 15:39 +0200
                        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 14:35 +0100
        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI megazzorro <megazzorro.5jed61@no-mx.httppoint.com> - 2012-09-24 08:22 -0400
        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-09-25 02:39 -0600
          Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2012-09-25 09:10 -0600
            Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 16:17 +0100
            Re: Only Allow exec in CLI crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-09-25 12:20 -0600
              Re: Only Allow exec in CLI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 19:32 +0100
        Re: Only Allow exec in CLI Ryan <rbilesky@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 10:23 -0700

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#7162

FromAnders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk>
Date2012-09-25 20:45 +0200
Message-ID<87haqm2b7j.fsf@huddi.jernurt.dk>
In reply to#7160
crankypuss <no@email.thanks> writes:

> On 09/25/2012 12:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> > On 9/25/2012 12:25 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> >> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
> >>
> >>> script1; script2; script3; script4
> >>
> >>   Said the guy who're too afraid to use the php classloader, because he
> >> is afraid someone will make a mess of it.
> >>
> >
> > Ah, trolling again?  What's the difference between calling script1 in
> > the cron job - or in a script which is called by the cron job?  Answer:
> > nothing.
> 
> Actually there'd be a tiny bit of added overhead due to the nested
> script processor if you called it in a script called by the cron job,
> so not /exactly/ nothing (but real close).

 Actually, with the intellectual capabilities Mr. Stuckle ascribes to
himself in other advanced contexts, none of the four programs would
execute, if he tried to string them together in the same cron job.

 If the miniscule overhead is of importance, theree are other problems
that should be adressed first. 

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#7169

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2012-09-25 16:08 -0400
Message-ID<k3t304$gqg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7162
On 9/25/2012 2:45 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> crankypuss <no@email.thanks> writes:
>
>> On 09/25/2012 12:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 9/25/2012 12:25 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> script1; script2; script3; script4
>>>>
>>>>    Said the guy who're too afraid to use the php classloader, because he
>>>> is afraid someone will make a mess of it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, trolling again?  What's the difference between calling script1 in
>>> the cron job - or in a script which is called by the cron job?  Answer:
>>> nothing.
>>
>> Actually there'd be a tiny bit of added overhead due to the nested
>> script processor if you called it in a script called by the cron job,
>> so not /exactly/ nothing (but real close).
>
>   Actually, with the intellectual capabilities Mr. Stuckle ascribes to
> himself in other advanced contexts, none of the four programs would
> execute, if he tried to string them together in the same cron job.
>
>   If the miniscule overhead is of importance, theree are other problems
> that should be adressed first.
>

Once again you have your head up your anal orifice.

http://team.macnn.com/drafts/crontab_defs.html

It works fine.

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#7133

FromMichael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de>
Date2012-09-25 15:12 +0200
Message-ID<9bb368526ac8lcs1fsiekfi4q6hjq3i5pg@mfesser.de>
In reply to#7131
.oO(Anders Wegge Keller)

>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>
>> Why would you even set up a shell script to run the four programs
>> from cron?  Why not just set cron up to run them itself?
>
> Can you answer that question yourself? I can think of several
>situations where it makes sense. If you cannot see any of those, you
>shouldn't comment on this subject.

The point was: For just calling several progams you don't need any
script - a single one-liner can do that.

Micha

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#7137

FromAnders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk>
Date2012-09-25 15:39 +0200
Message-ID<87y5jy2pe2.fsf@huddi.jernurt.dk>
In reply to#7133
Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> writes:

> .oO(Anders Wegge Keller)
> 
> >Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
> >
> >> Why would you even set up a shell script to run the four programs
> >> from cron?  Why not just set cron up to run them itself?
> >
> > Can you answer that question yourself? I can think of several
> >situations where it makes sense. If you cannot see any of those, you
> >shouldn't comment on this subject.
> 
> The point was: For just calling several progams you don't need any
> script - a single one-liner can do that.

 That would make for one hell of an error-prone crontab. 

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#7135

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2012-09-25 14:35 +0100
Message-ID<k3sbun$n7n$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7131
Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
> 
>> Why would you even set up a shell script to run the four programs
>> from cron?  Why not just set cron up to run them itself?
> 
>  Can you answer that question yourself? I can think of several
> situations where it makes sense. If you cannot see any of those, you
> shouldn't comment on this subject.
> 
The actual reason was that its slightly easier to edit a script than a 
series of cron entries, and I wanted them to definitely happen one after 
the other, as one connects and stores  the data which the next ones process

It could have been one larger C file, but in practice splitting it into 
smaller ones made testing and debugging more 'decoupled' and simplified 
error handling.



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members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are 
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a 
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#7113

Frommegazzorro <megazzorro.5jed61@no-mx.httppoint.com>
Date2012-09-24 08:22 -0400
Message-ID<megazzorro.5jed61@no-mx.httppoint.com>
In reply to#7108
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#7120

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2012-09-25 02:39 -0600
Message-ID<k3rqja1n6g@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#7108
On 09/24/2012 05:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> M. Strobel wrote:
>> Am 24.09.2012 01:14, schrieb cph:
>>> For security I am looking to add exec() and similar commands to the
>>> disable functions setting in php.ini but I do have a need to execute
>>> command line commands within a
>> cron job I am writing in PHP.
>>
>> The answer is highly dependent on your system setup, as has been said
>> already.
>> I would start with a check to see if different .ini files for web
>> server and CLI are
>> in place already.
>>
>> /Str.
>
> I cant imagine why anyone would put PHP in a cron job to start with.
>
> Shell script or C, or both...

I can't imagine why anyone would write a shell script when PHP is available.

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#7142

FromMartin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID>
Date2012-09-25 09:10 -0600
Message-ID<k3shgv$hdn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7120
crankypuss wrote:

> On 09/24/2012 05:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>> I cant imagine why anyone would put PHP in a cron job to start with.
>>
>> Shell script or C, or both...
> 
> I can't imagine why anyone would write a shell script when PHP is 
> available.

Stop whining and use Perl.

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#7144

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2012-09-25 16:17 +0100
Message-ID<k3shtg$4pf$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7142
Martin Leese wrote:
> crankypuss wrote:
> 
>> On 09/24/2012 05:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>>> I cant imagine why anyone would put PHP in a cron job to start with.
>>>
>>> Shell script or C, or both...
>>
>> I can't imagine why anyone would write a shell script when PHP is 
>> available.
> 
> Stop whining and use Perl.
> 
Pluperfectly Egregious Religious Language


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the 
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are 
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a 
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#7155

Fromcrankypuss <no@email.thanks>
Date2012-09-25 12:20 -0600
Message-ID<k3ssm621k2p@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#7142
On 09/25/2012 09:10 AM, Martin Leese wrote:
> crankypuss wrote:
>
>> On 09/24/2012 05:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>>> I cant imagine why anyone would put PHP in a cron job to start with.
>>>
>>> Shell script or C, or both...
>>
>> I can't imagine why anyone would write a shell script when PHP is
>> available.
>
> Stop whining and use Perl.

I have a superstitious belief that it's bad luck to argue with morons.

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#7158

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2012-09-25 19:32 +0100
Message-ID<k3stc4$vmb$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7155
crankypuss wrote:
> On 09/25/2012 09:10 AM, Martin Leese wrote:
>> crankypuss wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/24/2012 05:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>>> I cant imagine why anyone would put PHP in a cron job to start with.
>>>>
>>>> Shell script or C, or both...
>>>
>>> I can't imagine why anyone would write a shell script when PHP is
>>> available.
>>
>> Stop whining and use Perl.
> 
> I have a superstitious belief that it's bad luck to argue with morons.
> 
s'all right. No one is arguing with you.


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the 
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are 
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a 
diminishing number of producers.

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#7200

FromRyan <rbilesky@gmail.com>
Date2012-09-27 10:23 -0700
Message-ID<6722b470-b251-42d8-82dc-cd4ab8762c38@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#7108
On Monday, September 24, 2012 4:43:34 AM UTC-7, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> M. Strobel wrote:
> 
> > Am 24.09.2012 01:14, schrieb cph:
> 
> >> For security I am looking to add exec() and similar commands to the disable functions 
> 
> >> setting in php.ini but I do have a need to execute command line commands within a
> 
> > cron job I am writing in PHP.
> 
> > 
> 
> > The answer is highly dependent on your system setup, as has been said already.
> 
> > I would start with a check to see if different .ini files for web server and CLI are
> 
> > in place already.
> 
> > 
> 
> > /Str.
> 
> 
> 
> I cant imagine why anyone would put PHP in a cron job to start with.
> 
> 
> 
> Shell script or C, or both...
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ineptocracy
> 
> 
> 
> (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to 
> 
> lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the 
> 
> members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are 
> 
> rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a 
> 
> diminishing number of producers.

idk about the OP but if its me I'm a PHP developer not a C developer, I wouldn't know what to do in C. I'm not even all the good at shell script for that matter.

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