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Check for military time

Started byDerek Turner <frderek@suremail.je>
First post2015-10-20 18:57 +0000
Last post2015-11-01 08:31 -0500
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  Check for military time Derek Turner <frderek@suremail.je> - 2015-10-20 18:57 +0000
    Re: Check for military time Derek Turner <frderek@suremail.je> - 2015-10-20 19:00 +0000
      Re: Check for military time Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2015-10-20 21:35 -0700
        Re: Check for military time Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-10-21 16:12 -0400
          Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-21 22:38 -0400
            Re: Check for military time Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-10-22 10:43 -0400
              Re: Check for military time Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-10-22 10:48 -0400
              Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-22 17:20 +0200
              Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 12:19 -0400
              Re: Check for military time "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2015-10-22 15:32 -0500
                Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-22 23:08 +0200
                  Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 20:19 -0400
                    Re: Check for military time Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2015-10-22 22:07 -0400
                  Re: Check for military time "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2015-10-23 02:26 +0000
                Re: Check for military time Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-10-22 17:13 -0400
                  Re: Check for military time Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-22 22:57 +0100
                    Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 20:22 -0400
                      Re: Check for military time Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-23 09:19 +0100
                        Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-23 09:32 -0400
                          Re: Check for military time Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-23 15:43 +0100
                            Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-23 11:11 -0400
                          Re: Check for military time gordonb.nwjln@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-10-23 12:36 -0500
                            Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-23 13:40 -0400
                            Re: Check for military time Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-23 18:54 +0100
                          Re: Check for military time Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2015-10-23 22:44 -0400
                            Re: Check for military time Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-24 10:32 +0100
                            Re: Check for military time Derek Turner <frderek@suremail.je> - 2015-10-24 11:41 +0000
                              Re: Check for military time Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2015-10-24 15:15 -0400
                  Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 20:21 -0400
                    Re: Check for military time Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-10-22 20:38 -0400
                      Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 20:47 -0400
                Re: Check for military time gordonb.90ylr@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-10-22 18:21 -0500
                  Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 20:23 -0400
              Re: Check for military time gordonb.c5zx1@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-10-22 17:40 -0500
          Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-22 11:12 +0200
            Re: Check for military time Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-10-22 11:06 -0400
              Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-22 17:18 +0200
          Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 13:17 -0400
    Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-21 13:55 +0200
      Re: Check for military time "M. Strobel" <strobel@example.com> - 2015-10-21 20:56 +0200
        Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-21 16:48 -0400
    Re: Check for military time Stephan Elinghaus <221015.6.seli@spamgourmet.com> - 2015-10-22 13:16 +0200
      Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-22 15:11 +0200
        Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-22 10:23 -0400
          Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-10-27 14:10 +0100
            Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-27 09:25 -0400
              Re: Check for military time Jørn Andersen <jorn@jorna.dk> - 2015-10-27 15:19 +0100
                Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-27 10:41 -0400
                  Re: Check for military time Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2015-10-27 23:03 -0400
                    Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-27 23:29 -0400
                      Re: Check for military time Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-10-29 10:08 +0100
                        Re: Check for military time Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2015-10-29 21:44 -0400
                          Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-29 22:35 -0400
                            Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-10-30 20:08 +0100
                              Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-30 16:22 -0400
                                Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-01 11:58 +0100
                                  Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-01 08:27 -0500
                                    Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-01 14:36 +0100
                                      Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-01 09:05 -0500
                                        Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-01 16:51 +0100
                                          Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-01 11:09 -0500
                          Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-30 22:33 +0100
                            Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-30 20:01 -0400
                            Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-03 19:51 +0100
                          Re: Check for military time Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-02 13:51 +0100
                            Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-02 18:57 +0100
                              Re: Check for military time Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-04 15:18 +0100
                                Re: Check for military time Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2015-11-04 21:18 -0500
                                Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-05 07:51 +0100
                  Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-10-30 20:04 +0100
                    Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-30 16:24 -0400
                      Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-01 12:06 +0100
                        Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-01 08:30 -0500
                          Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-01 14:39 +0100
                            Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-01 09:07 -0500
                              Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-01 16:58 +0100
                                Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-01 11:05 -0500
                                  Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-02 08:14 +0100
                                    Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-02 10:01 -0500
                                      Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-02 17:54 +0100
                                        Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-02 12:50 -0500
                                          Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-02 19:05 +0100
                                            Re: Check for military time Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-11-02 18:23 +0000
                                              Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-02 15:23 -0500
                                            Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-02 15:16 -0500
                                              Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-03 05:47 +0100
                                                Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-03 08:47 -0500
                                                  Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-04 03:55 +0100
                                                    Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-03 22:09 -0500
                                                      Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-04 08:49 +0100
                                                        Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-04 08:29 -0500
                                                          Re: Check for military time Paul Herber <paul@pherber.com> - 2015-11-04 14:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-04 10:00 -0500
                                                        Re: Check for military time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-06 13:11 +0100
                                                          Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-06 09:45 -0500
                                                            Re: Check for military time Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2015-11-07 21:50 -0500
                                                              Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-07 22:05 -0500
                                                Re: Check for military time gordonb.2zzss@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-11-08 20:50 -0600
                                                  Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-09 10:29 +0100
                                                    Re: Check for military time gordonb.00syf@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-11-10 23:42 -0600
                                                      Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-11 07:46 +0100
                                                        Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-11 07:50 +0100
                                                          Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-11 08:06 -0500
                                                            Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-11 15:15 +0100
                                                              Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-11 09:21 -0500
                                                                Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-11 17:46 +0100
                                                                  Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-11 15:12 -0500
                                                                    Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-11 22:23 +0100
                                                                      Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-11 17:17 -0500
                                                        Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-11 08:05 -0500
                                                          OT: Munging addresses (was: Re: Check for military time) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-11 19:18 +0100
                                                            Re: OT: Munging addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-11 15:16 -0500
                                                              Re: OT: Munging addresses Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-11 22:29 +0100
                                                                Re: OT: Munging addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-11 17:20 -0500
                                                                  Re: OT: Munging addresses Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-12 07:47 +0100
                                                                    Re: OT: Munging addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-12 10:15 -0500
                                                                      Re: OT: Munging addresses Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-12 17:17 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT: Munging addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-12 11:59 -0500
                                                                          Re: OT: Munging addresses Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-12 18:51 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT: Munging addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-12 14:20 -0500
                                                                              Re: OT: Munging addresses Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-12 20:59 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT: Munging addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-12 16:54 -0500
                                                                Re: OT: Munging addresses Jim Higgins <ILikeMy@Privacy.invalid> - 2015-11-18 16:24 +0000
                PHP code section end marker (was: Check for military time) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-27 22:58 +0100
              Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-10-30 20:01 +0100
                Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-30 16:27 -0400
                  Re: Check for military time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-11-01 12:12 +0100
                    Re: Check for military time Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-01 08:31 -0500

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#15838

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-02 12:50 -0500
Message-ID<n187l9$sg9$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15837
On 11/2/2015 11:54 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 16:01:
> 
> [...]
>> Much more than anything a troll like YOU suggests should be taken seriously.
>>
>> And it's "advice", not "advises".  Point in fact.
> 
> Wenn Du jemals Deutsch schreibst, werde ich Dich dann auch auf jeden
> Rechtschreibfehler hinweisen - Danke.
> 
> 

Poor Arno.

I never claimed to understand German very well.  You, though, have
claimed to be proficient in English.  Just showing you that you aren't
nearly as proficient as you think you are.

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#15840

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2015-11-02 19:05 +0100
Message-ID<5637A5CC.6060209@arnowelzel.de>
In reply to#15838
Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 18:50:

> On 11/2/2015 11:54 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 16:01:
>>
>> [...]
>>> Much more than anything a troll like YOU suggests should be taken seriously.
>>>
>>> And it's "advice", not "advises".  Point in fact.
>>
>> Wenn Du jemals Deutsch schreibst, werde ich Dich dann auch auf jeden
>> Rechtschreibfehler hinweisen - Danke.
>>
>>
> 
> Poor Arno.
> 
> I never claimed to understand German very well.  You, though, have
> claimed to be proficient in English.  Just showing you that you aren't
> nearly as proficient as you think you are.

I can't remember that I ever claimed to be proficient in English neither
I understand what a single typo has to with proficiency in a language.

At least you understand what I write and you call me a troll. So my
English it can not be too bad ;-).



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#15841

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2015-11-02 18:23 +0000
Message-ID<021120151823085258%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#15840
In article <5637A5CC.6060209@arnowelzel.de>, Arno Welzel
<usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

>At least you understand what I write and you call me a troll. So my
>English it can not be too bad ;-).

It's not too bad at all, Arno - really. That is a frequent error,
however:

advice - noun
advise - verb

I blame Jerry and his fellow Americans, myself. Their attempts to make
English spelling more, err, more what? I'm not sure I know. Anyway they
say:

license - verb and noun

whereas we say:

licence - noun
license - verb

(Cue spelling argument until the end of time)

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#15843

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-02 15:23 -0500
Message-ID<n18gjo$5f2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15841
On 11/2/2015 1:23 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <5637A5CC.6060209@arnowelzel.de>, Arno Welzel
> <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> 
>> At least you understand what I write and you call me a troll. So my
>> English it can not be too bad ;-).
> 
> It's not too bad at all, Arno - really. That is a frequent error,
> however:
> 
> advice - noun
> advise - verb
>

Any middle school student should understand the difference.
Unfortunately, there are a number of undereducated people in this country.

> I blame Jerry and his fellow Americans, myself. Their attempts to make
> English spelling more, err, more what? I'm not sure I know. Anyway they
> say:
> 
> license - verb and noun
> 
> whereas we say:
> 
> licence - noun
> license - verb
> 
> (Cue spelling argument until the end of time)
> 

Actually, not.  License can be a noun or a verb, as can licence.  The
former is generally considered the correct spelling in the U.S., while
the latter in the U.K.

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#15842

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-02 15:16 -0500
Message-ID<n18g61$33j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15840
On 11/2/2015 1:05 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 18:50:
> 
>> On 11/2/2015 11:54 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 16:01:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> Much more than anything a troll like YOU suggests should be taken seriously.
>>>>
>>>> And it's "advice", not "advises".  Point in fact.
>>>
>>> Wenn Du jemals Deutsch schreibst, werde ich Dich dann auch auf jeden
>>> Rechtschreibfehler hinweisen - Danke.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Poor Arno.
>>
>> I never claimed to understand German very well.  You, though, have
>> claimed to be proficient in English.  Just showing you that you aren't
>> nearly as proficient as you think you are.
> 
> I can't remember that I ever claimed to be proficient in English neither
> I understand what a single typo has to with proficiency in a language.
> 
> At least you understand what I write and you call me a troll. So my
> English it can not be too bad ;-).
> 
> 
> 

Oh, you have claimed many times you understand what was said in this
newsgroups - even though you obviously did not.

And yes, you are a troll - as evinced by your repeated posting of
unmunged email addresses in attempts to get newsgroup users spammed.

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#15844

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2015-11-03 05:47 +0100
Message-ID<56383C62.2060805@arnowelzel.de>
In reply to#15842
Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 21:16:

> On 11/2/2015 1:05 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 18:50:
[...]
>>> I never claimed to understand German very well.  You, though, have
>>> claimed to be proficient in English.  Just showing you that you aren't
>>> nearly as proficient as you think you are.
>>
>> I can't remember that I ever claimed to be proficient in English neither
>> I understand what a single typo has to with proficiency in a language.
>>
>> At least you understand what I write and you call me a troll. So my
>> English it can not be too bad ;-).
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Oh, you have claimed many times you understand what was said in this
> newsgroups - even though you obviously did not.

And this you call "claiming to be proficient in English"?

> And yes, you are a troll - as evinced by your repeated posting of
> unmunged email addresses in attempts to get newsgroup users spammed.

You take yourself way too seriously. You really believe spammers will
scan the body of usenet postings to find working e-mail-addresses?

And if so - don't you think, spammers are not smart enough to get your
address from mailing list archives, like this one:

<https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00415.html>

Further reading - even if you ignore this anway, but maybe helpful for
others:

<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1849#section-5.2>
<http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/>
<http://web.mit.edu/dmaze/www/nospam.html>

BTW: usenet@arnowelzel.de is valid and will be read.


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#15845

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-03 08:47 -0500
Message-ID<n1adot$ht7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15844
On 11/2/2015 11:47 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 21:16:
> 
>> On 11/2/2015 1:05 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-02 um 18:50:
> [...]
>>>> I never claimed to understand German very well.  You, though, have
>>>> claimed to be proficient in English.  Just showing you that you aren't
>>>> nearly as proficient as you think you are.
>>>
>>> I can't remember that I ever claimed to be proficient in English neither
>>> I understand what a single typo has to with proficiency in a language.
>>>
>>> At least you understand what I write and you call me a troll. So my
>>> English it can not be too bad ;-).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh, you have claimed many times you understand what was said in this
>> newsgroups - even though you obviously did not.
> 
> And this you call "claiming to be proficient in English"?
>

No, it's YOUR claim.

>> And yes, you are a troll - as evinced by your repeated posting of
>> unmunged email addresses in attempts to get newsgroup users spammed.
> 
> You take yourself way too seriously. You really believe spammers will
> scan the body of usenet postings to find working e-mail-addresses?
> 

Yes, they do - and regularly.  But then that's why you did it.

> And if so - don't you think, spammers are not smart enough to get your
> address from mailing list archives, like this one:
> 
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00415.html>
> 

Nothing I can do about that.

> Further reading - even if you ignore this anway, but maybe helpful for
> others:
> 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1849#section-5.2>
> <http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/>
> <http://web.mit.edu/dmaze/www/nospam.html>
>


The RFC specifies what the header contains and the valid characters.  No
where does it state it MUST contain a valid email address.

The interhack.net post is one person's opinion, and over 17 years old.

And the mit.edu post is just another opinion - but the same person.

You can also find claims the world is flat on the internet.


> BTW: usenet@arnowelzel.de is valid and will be read.
> 
> 

So?  The bottom line here is - you are a troll, as you have yourself
proven.  You can't get out of it - everyone who reads this newsgroup can
see that.

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#15847

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2015-11-04 03:55 +0100
Message-ID<56397393.8040507@arnowelzel.de>
In reply to#15845
Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-03 um 14:47:

[...]
> So?  The bottom line here is - you are a troll, as you have yourself
> proven.  You can't get out of it - everyone who reads this newsgroup can
> see that.

The bottom line is that you are an old sociopath who should get a life.


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#15848

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-03 22:09 -0500
Message-ID<n1bsq0$5fo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15847
On 11/3/2015 9:55 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-03 um 14:47:
> 
> [...]
>> So?  The bottom line here is - you are a troll, as you have yourself
>> proven.  You can't get out of it - everyone who reads this newsgroup can
>> see that.
> 
> The bottom line is that you are an old sociopath who should get a life.
> 
> 

ROFLMAO!  This from a troll who purposely tries to get other users
spammed.  Talk about SICK!

But then trolls always blame other people for their own failings.  And
you've proven repeatedly you are nothing more than a troll.

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#15849

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2015-11-04 08:49 +0100
Message-ID<5639B886.8040907@arnowelzel.de>
In reply to#15848
Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-04 um 04:09:

> On 11/3/2015 9:55 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-03 um 14:47:
>>
>> [...]
>>> So?  The bottom line here is - you are a troll, as you have yourself
>>> proven.  You can't get out of it - everyone who reads this newsgroup can
>>> see that.
>>
>> The bottom line is that you are an old sociopath who should get a life.
>>
>>
> 
> ROFLMAO!  This from a troll who purposely tries to get other users
> spammed.  Talk about SICK!
> 
> But then trolls always blame other people for their own failings.  And
> you've proven repeatedly you are nothing more than a troll.

How often do you want to repeat this? Do you climax when saying the word
"troll"?


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#15850

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-04 08:29 -0500
Message-ID<n1d144$leh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15849
On 11/4/2015 2:49 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-04 um 04:09:
> 
>> On 11/3/2015 9:55 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-03 um 14:47:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> So?  The bottom line here is - you are a troll, as you have yourself
>>>> proven.  You can't get out of it - everyone who reads this newsgroup can
>>>> see that.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is that you are an old sociopath who should get a life.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ROFLMAO!  This from a troll who purposely tries to get other users
>> spammed.  Talk about SICK!
>>
>> But then trolls always blame other people for their own failings.  And
>> you've proven repeatedly you are nothing more than a troll.
> 
> How often do you want to repeat this? Do you climax when saying the word
> "troll"?
> 
> 

You just hate it when someone tells you what you are, don't you?  Trolls
are like that.

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#15851

FromPaul Herber <paul@pherber.com>
Date2015-11-04 14:14 +0000
Message-ID<kg4k3bt61jgtfdq84ihn4e188nurgpmlvn@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#15850
Why don't you both give it a rest? Neither of you gain status from this stupid argument,
in fact, quite the opposite.



























































I bet one of you responds to this to continue the argument.


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#15853

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-04 10:00 -0500
Message-ID<n1d6ep$apj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15851
On 11/4/2015 9:14 AM, Paul Herber wrote:
> Why don't you both give it a rest? Neither of you gain status from this stupid argument,
> in fact, quite the opposite.
> 
> I bet one of you responds to this to continue the argument.
> 

You really don't think you can jump into a conversation and not get a
reply, do you?

I just think it's funny to see how many accusations the troll can come
up with about me, trying to get a major reaction.  He can't make a
bigger fool of himself than he is, but he just doesn't see it.

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#15856

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2015-11-06 13:11 +0100
Message-ID<3975299.sjvdzmF9sB@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#15849
Arno Welzel wrote:

> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-04 um 04:09:
>> But then trolls always blame other people for their own failings.  And
>> you've proven repeatedly you are nothing more than a troll.
> 
> How often do you want to repeat this? Do you climax when saying the word
> "troll"?

Words of wisdom: 

“Never argue with an idiot, onlookers won’t be able to tell the 
difference.” – Mark Twain, writer (1835–1910)

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and 
beat you with experience.” – George Carlin, actor (1937–2008)

Actually, it is a very old wisdom that I, too, should consider more often, 
thereby using my precious free time more efficiently:

<http://biblehub.com/proverbs/23-9.htm>

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#15857

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-06 09:45 -0500
Message-ID<n1ie95$a1u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15856
On 11/6/2015 7:11 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Arno Welzel wrote:
> 
>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-04 um 04:09:
>>> But then trolls always blame other people for their own failings.  And
>>> you've proven repeatedly you are nothing more than a troll.
>>
>> How often do you want to repeat this? Do you climax when saying the word
>> "troll"?
> 
> Words of wisdom: 
> 
> “Never argue with an idiot, onlookers won’t be able to tell the 
> difference.” – Mark Twain, writer (1835–1910)
> 
> “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and 
> beat you with experience.” – George Carlin, actor (1937–2008)
> 
> Actually, it is a very old wisdom that I, too, should consider more often, 
> thereby using my precious free time more efficiently:
> 
> <http://biblehub.com/proverbs/23-9.htm>
> 

LOL, "words of wisdom" from a well known troll (in multiple newsgroups)!

Just one troll talking to another.

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#15858

FromMatthew Carter <m@ahungry.com>
Date2015-11-07 21:50 -0500
Message-ID<87pozlgq77.fsf@ahungry.com>
In reply to#15857
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:

> On 11/6/2015 7:11 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Arno Welzel wrote:
>> 
>>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-04 um 04:09:
>>>> But then trolls always blame other people for their own failings.  And
>>>> you've proven repeatedly you are nothing more than a troll.
>>>
>>> How often do you want to repeat this? Do you climax when saying the word
>>> "troll"?
>> 
>> Words of wisdom: 
>> 
>> “Never argue with an idiot, onlookers won’t be able to tell the 
>> difference.” – Mark Twain, writer (1835–1910)
>> 
>> “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and 
>> beat you with experience.” – George Carlin, actor (1937–2008)
>> 
>> Actually, it is a very old wisdom that I, too, should consider more often, 
>> thereby using my precious free time more efficiently:
>> 
>> <http://biblehub.com/proverbs/23-9.htm>
>> 
>
> LOL, "words of wisdom" from a well known troll (in multiple newsgroups)!
>
> Just one troll talking to another.

Too lazy to make a meme, this one seems fitting though:

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/57142799.jpg

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#15859

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-11-07 22:05 -0500
Message-ID<n1me1u$pv9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15858
On 11/7/2015 9:50 PM, Matthew Carter wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
> 
>> On 11/6/2015 7:11 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2015-11-04 um 04:09:
>>>>> But then trolls always blame other people for their own failings.  And
>>>>> you've proven repeatedly you are nothing more than a troll.
>>>>
>>>> How often do you want to repeat this? Do you climax when saying the word
>>>> "troll"?
>>>
>>> Words of wisdom: 
>>>
>>> “Never argue with an idiot, onlookers won’t be able to tell the 
>>> difference.” – Mark Twain, writer (1835–1910)
>>>
>>> “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and 
>>> beat you with experience.” – George Carlin, actor (1937–2008)
>>>
>>> Actually, it is a very old wisdom that I, too, should consider more often, 
>>> thereby using my precious free time more efficiently:
>>>
>>> <http://biblehub.com/proverbs/23-9.htm>
>>>
>>
>> LOL, "words of wisdom" from a well known troll (in multiple newsgroups)!
>>
>> Just one troll talking to another.
> 
> Too lazy to make a meme, this one seems fitting though:
> 
> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/57142799.jpg
> 

So we have another troll here, huh?


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#15860

Fromgordonb.2zzss@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt)
Date2015-11-08 20:50 -0600
Message-ID<-t6dnSiPQqt6lN3LnZ2dnUU7-Yv88Pjv@posted.internetamerica>
In reply to#15844
> You take yourself way too seriously. You really believe spammers will
> scan the body of usenet postings to find working e-mail-addresses?

I do, and I think I've proved it.  I put an email address like this:

	spamsucks.f1d2d2f924e986ac86fdf7b36c94bcdf32beec15@burditt.org

into the body of a USENET post, and scan the server logs for that
address after a few days.  I don't ALWAYS get email at an address
lik that, but it happens sometimes.  I've seen spams with such an
address show up even after a few years from the one time I put that
address in a post.  The chance of a spammer guessing that long mess
of hex digits is a lot less than spammers extracting email addresses
from USENET posts (and, for that matter, from HTML on web sites).

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#15861

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2015-11-09 10:29 +0100
Message-ID<5640677C.7020401@arnowelzel.de>
In reply to#15860
Am 2015-11-09 um 03:50 schrieb Gordon Burditt:

>> You take yourself way too seriously. You really believe spammers will
>> scan the body of usenet postings to find working e-mail-addresses?
> 
> I do, and I think I've proved it.  I put an email address like this:
> 
> 	spamsucks.f1d2d2f924e986ac86fdf7b36c94bcdf32beec15@burditt.org
> 
> into the body of a USENET post, and scan the server logs for that
> address after a few days.  I don't ALWAYS get email at an address
> lik that, but it happens sometimes.  I've seen spams with such an
> address show up even after a few years from the one time I put that
> address in a post.  The chance of a spammer guessing that long mess
> of hex digits is a lot less than spammers extracting email addresses
> from USENET posts (and, for that matter, from HTML on web sites).

I stand corrected. But I believe this is fetched from websites who
provide usenet archives (Google groups etc.) and of not via NNTP.


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#15862

Fromgordonb.00syf@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt)
Date2015-11-10 23:42 -0600
Message-ID<pc6dnWnx77rDSN_LnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@posted.internetamerica>
In reply to#15861
>>> You take yourself way too seriously. You really believe spammers will
>>> scan the body of usenet postings to find working e-mail-addresses?
>> 
>> I do, and I think I've proved it.  I put an email address like this:
>> 
>>       spamsucks.f1d2d2f924e986ac86fdf7b36c94bcdf32beec15@burditt.org
>> 
>> into the body of a USENET post, and scan the server logs for that
>> address after a few days.  I don't ALWAYS get email at an address
>> lik that, but it happens sometimes.  I've seen spams with such an
>> address show up even after a few years from the one time I put that
>> address in a post.  The chance of a spammer guessing that long mess
>> of hex digits is a lot less than spammers extracting email addresses
>> from USENET posts (and, for that matter, from HTML on web sites).
> 
> I stand corrected. But I believe this is fetched from websites who
> provide usenet archives (Google groups etc.) and of not via NNTP.

It doesn't matter where it's fetched from or what protocol is used.
It's rude to expose someone else's email address unmunged with
intent to get them spammed, or even with reckless disregard for
whether they get spammed or not.

I think you might be able to prove whether the spammers are getting
it via NNTP if you could find a newsgroup that is not archived.
I'm going to suggest iadfw.* as a possibility.  Or do those archive
sites archive *everything*?

If it was posted on USENET, and ended up in a USENET archive, it's
a USENET message, regardless of whether it later gets bounced off
Uranus, goes through a Braille-to-smoke-signal gateway, or makes
part of the trip via carrier dolphins, or even gets fetched via
HTTP(S).  (It used to be that news was carried by UUCP, not NNTP).

I do know that some people used their mail reader to read USENET
news because they had asked for a news-to-email gateway built into
things like BNEWS, CNEWS, or INEWS to be activated, sending via
SMTP to their personal email address.  (Mostly because they couldn't
figure out how to use a news reader.) This was decades ago, and
with very limited groups, as the volume of a full feed even then
would overwhem anyone trying to read it.  This also had the effect
that someone posting to USENET in the subscribed groups might get
a "mailbox full" SMTP bounce from the mailbox owner's ISP if the
owner didn't delete messages fast enough and if the gateway didn't
fix the headers to prevent that.

To make this remotely relevant to PHP, I do recall someone clever
wrote a cute PHP page that would serve up web pages with random
text, random links, and random mailto: links that pointed at a
honeypot mail server specified by the person installing the software.

If you expected this to follow a normal filesystem hierarchy, well,
you soon discovered that it actually had infinite depth.  A web
crawler doing depth-first descent ended up with a URL like
http://my.example.com/honeypot/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/page.php
.  Actually it just responded to *ANY* URL under a specific directory
and used relative links 1 directory level lower.  The code came
with instructions to exclude that directory in robots.txt so Google's
and other legitimate web crawlers wouldn't get stuck in an infinite
loop.  Those obey robots.txt; spammers, at least most of them,
don't.

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